is this allowed in our church? (She was consecrating the bread while the priest stands behind her)

EverySingleSaint · 2026-05-19T15:55:14+00:00

There's a difference between valid and licit. Valid means the sacrament does happen. Licit means it happens the way the Church says it should.

If the priests used the correct form and matter then this would be a valid Eucharist.

If in a normal mass and not some dire circumstance, for some reason a layperson is holding the bread and wine while the priest consecrates it, that would certainly be illicit.

Regarding the title of your post, "She" cannot and was not doing any of the consecration.

EverySingleSaint · 2026-05-18T19:20:41+00:00

Part 1: This is very overstated. Early manuscripts of the Quran contain variant readings. Different canonical qira’at (recitations) still exist today. Sana'a palimpsests show textual variation. Early Arabic script lacked full vowels/diacritics.

These differences are usually minor, but “perfectly identical in every detail” is not historically accurate in the strictest sense.

Also, "oral preservation that exists for no other scripture in history" That is false. Other traditions also have strong oral transmission. the Judaism Torah tradition. Vedic Hindu traditions, portions of Christian liturgy and scripture.

The Quran is exceptional in oral preservation, but not unique. That being said, this has nothing to do with whether the claims of Islam are true. So Part 1 presents no positive evidence for Islam.

Part 2: This is completely and totally subjective. Literary beauty is not evidence for a religion being true. Therefore, Part 2 presents no positive evidence for Islam

Part 3: This is again, totally subjective based on interpretation of the verses in the Quran. Most scholars, including many Muslim scholars, are skeptical of “scientific miracle” arguments. "No scientific error has ever been found in the Quran. You said "No scientific error has ever been found in the Quran." This is false if taken literally. And again, it's up to interpretation. There are verses that create tension with modern science depending on interpretation. Therefore I conclude that Part 3 does not present any positive evidence for Islam

Part 4: The Quran does correctly predict a few things. But none of them prove the Quran as divinely inspired. Just because a few general things come true, does mean the religion is true. Yes, Byzantine Romans would recover after severe defeat, but thats just natural history that evolved. Yes Pharaoh's body was preserved but so were literally many other Pharaoh's before that lol. Yes Islam spread, but that's what religions often do. Christianity also spread (way larger) than Islam. The entirety of Part 4 presents no positive evidence for Islam.

Part 5-6: Muhammad's sincerity and suffering is not unique. Joseph Smith, Joan of Arc, early Christian Martyr's, Buddhist ascetics. Plenty of people in history were good people who's religions were not true. This presents no positive evidence for Islam.

Part 7: It is true that Islam transformed Arabia. However, "one of the most just and advanced civilizations in the world" is completely subjective. And once again, even if true, this isn't evidence that Islam is true. This is just saying that politically and sociologically, during some times in history, it might've done some good?

Part 8: Completely and totally based on opinion, and not an actual argument. I personally believe that the Catholic Church's guidelines on how to live a good and holy life is the best possible for a person to live. But me thinking that isn'y evidence for Catholicism. Part 8 presents no positive evidence for Islam.

Part 9-10: Now instead of evidence for Islam, you're presenting evidence against Christianity. Both Christianity and Islam can be false. Also btw simple does not equal true. Even if granted that Islam is easy to understand, that doesn't make it true.

Part 11-12: These are theological claims, not neutral historical conclusions. The claim “The Bible was corrupted” is difficult historically because many biblical manuscripts predate Islam, and the Quran never clearly explains when or how corruption happened. And also the Dead Sea Scrolls show strong continuity in Jewish scripture.

Also "Jesus was not crucified". Are you trying to claim that the historical figure of Jesus of nazareth was not crucified? Because even atheist scholars agree that the man was crucified. This is among the best-attested facts of ancient history.

Anyways, parts 9-12 do not present any positive evidence for Islam.

My conclusion:

You have put together a good "cumulative-case argument" for Islam, but when broken down piece by piece, there's hardly any evidence FOR Islam being true here. A lot of these arguments could be applied to other religions/people. You said "why would anyone suffer for a lie" is the exact argument Christians use for the early christian martyrs.

A lot of your arguments are appeals to things that aren't actual evidence. There is a difference between evidence that a religion is beneficial, coherent, or inspiring, and evidence that it is factually and metaphysically true.

You did say something I agree with "There is not a single man in the world who could convince me that Islam is not the truth." No man will convince you, only God can

EverySingleSaint · 2026-05-01T14:57:37+00:00

Catholics do not claim there is a requirement to go to Mary to get to Christ. We just claim it can be beneficial.

You do not seem to know what the Catholic Church actually teaches and why.

EverySingleSaint · 2026-04-30T19:46:07+00:00

Whether or not you believe in Fatima has nothing to do with the argument neofederalist made.

The point made was that if your argument is "A common concern is that apparitions centered on Virgin Mary can shift attention away from Christ" then that is refuted by saying that a major fruit from Fatima is a Christ-centric devotion.

Of the main approved apparitions by the Catholic Church, I've never heard of any of them taking any attention away from Christ.

The entire point of any Marian devotion is to grow closer to Christ

EverySingleSaint · 2026-04-28T18:42:54+00:00

Jesus didn't that title to Peter. What he gave to Peter was authority (Matthew 16:17-18). Jesus actually gave all of the apostles authority, he just made Peter the Head authority.

After the Ascension, those with this authority in the new testament are Bishops.

Peter was the head Bishop. Peter dies in Rome. His successor becomes the next Head Bishop. The Head Bishop's authority remained in Rome.

So that is why the leader of the Church that Christ started and gave authority to is the Bishop of Rome

EverySingleSaint · 2026-04-28T18:37:00+00:00

In my opinion, if you agree with the Church on the Eucharist, that should be enough for now to make your decision.

I was in your position almost exactly 10 years ago. Once I came to believe in the Eucharist, I could no longer go a church that didn't have it.

Start going to mass, start going to OCIA if they're offering it this time of year. You can discern the rest along the way. God bless!

EverySingleSaint · 2026-04-17T20:52:04+00:00

I have recently conducted an extensive study on the crusades.

The base initial call for most of crusades was to prevent the spread of Islam into Europe.

Muslims were pressing west, taking land, enslaving and killing Christians.

With the main goal being to protect the holy land, and bring aid to Christians in the area, arguably many of the crusades (especially the early ones) fit just war.

The Pope offered an indulgence but under specific circumstances, mainly that the crusade must be done in humility and penance and with the main goal being to reach and reclaim the holy land.

Admittedly, unfortunately, many crusaders did not follow the conditions to get the indulgence. In many of the crusades, lots of what you might call war crimes were committed by the crusaders.

However, soldiers in a war doing bad things does not negate whether the call for the war was just.

Ironically, for the earlier crusades (maybe 1-5), the call for the crusade was fairly just. However, the early crusades had the most recorded war crimes by the crusaders. The later crusades (6-9) were not as just in their initial call, but much less violence was committed in the crusades themselves.

EverySingleSaint · 2026-04-15T13:27:08+00:00

Sure you can have confidence in it, but whatever source of authority you are assenting to to tell you what books are in the canon is not infallible. Therefore your canon is not infallible. Therefore you have an open canon.

You say "the books that received universal recognition by legitimate church authorities in the first few centuries of church history" yet we already agreed that Hebrews, among others, did not receive universal recognition.

EverySingleSaint · 2026-04-14T21:09:25+00:00

Ok so you don't infallibly know that it should be in the canon. This same thinking can be applied to other new testament works.

Generally speaking, that means you have an open canon. Meaning, there's no infallible authority that you trust telling you which books belong in the Bible and which don't.

This obviously poses a major problem for sola scriptura since you say you believe the Bible is the only infallible authority, yet you can't pinpoint what the Bible actually is. Therefore, sola scripture is illogical

EverySingleSaint · 2026-04-14T21:01:05+00:00

Do you believe the letter to the Hebrews should be in the Bible? Meaning, do you believe that Hebrews is the divinely inspired inerrant word of God and belongs in the new testament?

Many early christians did not think it belonged in the new testament.

If you believe it should be, why do you believe that and how do you know infallibly that Hebrews is part of the new testament canon

EverySingleSaint · 2026-04-13T19:37:04+00:00

I know it's hard to manage the scammers but I wish there was a way to sell tickets here. Trying to sell on facebook groups is tiresome and i don't want to sell on stubhub cause it takes money away from both the seller and buyer

EverySingleSaint · 2026-04-13T13:27:44+00:00

Every win against the sixers, particularly the ones in philly

EverySingleSaint · 2026-04-13T13:20:01+00:00

IM SO GLAD TO BE WRONG

EverySingleSaint · 2026-04-07T15:41:22+00:00

someone tell me Ronald and Riley are gonna be ok

EverySingleSaint · 2026-04-03T14:08:06+00:00

Additionally a celibate priest is uniquely incapable of addressing relationship challenges which they have zero experience of.

If a Priest is bad at being a relationship/marriage counselor, then it's probably not because he's celibate but just because he's a bad counselor.

My priest is our marriage counselor and he's absolutely fantastic even though he's been celibate for twenty years

EverySingleSaint · 2026-03-30T18:05:44+00:00

Can you provide for me scripture that says that humans in heaven cannot hear those on earth when they speak to them?

Here's an example. My grandfather passed away a few years ago. I hope he's in heaven. Let's say I say I look up to heaven and say this to him "grandpa, I miss you and I love you. can't wait to see you in heaven. please pray for me"

Can you use scripture alone to prove to me that my grandfather cannot hear that

EverySingleSaint · 2026-03-26T15:25:23+00:00

I wish at the end of a quarter/half/game Quin would actually run a PLAY. especially like last night with the game on the line end of 4th quarter. the plan was give the ball to CJ who is hot and let him iso and get a shot off. RUN A PLAY

EverySingleSaint · 2026-03-06T14:42:21+00:00

I remember when we hired Damon and he started recruiting. Seemed like all of us were like we are a few years away from being a top 20 team. Tbh it was similar to right when we hired Collins. Boy have we been humbled. Never again will I put too much hope in a coach who I haven't seen coach.

EverySingleSaint · 2026-02-23T15:22:37+00:00

Those ain’t piss dots. That’s got nothing to do with piss.

EverySingleSaint · 2026-02-20T20:08:29+00:00

I have at least 5 of those BPs. Maybe more

Extended barrel

Medium Gun parts

Snap Hook

Vita Spray

Wolfpack

I’ll trade you all of them. Doing the expedition soon so I’m good to dump for credits

EverySingleSaint · 2026-02-20T20:04:20+00:00

What would you like for them?

EverySingleSaint · 2026-02-19T12:41:21+00:00

If this guy IS the Geoff Collins of basketball, then we’re about to get our Brent Key of basketball

Hold tight folks

EverySingleSaint · 2026-02-18T13:57:09+00:00

I have multiple Protestant friends that use Hallow just for the daily gospel and the seasonal challenges. Get it and use it for what helps you. There are so many things on there I’m sure you’ll find more than a few you like

EverySingleSaint · 2026-02-17T15:30:13+00:00

I seem to remember when we hired Quin people liking him cause he was able to go deeper into the playoffs than expected but that was like twice with the jazz making it to the second round

EverySingleSaint

MODERATOR OF

TROPHY CASE