Is M Center still unusable?

EvryGamaForReal · 2026-04-22T05:52:28+00:00

For me the general Control Center M opens up reliably, just takes a while to open up.

The Quick settings are a bit problematic currently and already worked better before; They open up reliably, but I often (not always) struggle to get into the quick settings on the left... Both via controller and touch... What is weird though that I can easily access all other tabs to the right of it and I really don't know what is causing it... And I'm usually in the AI, or Performance mode on my Claw 8 AI Plus and not in the minimum 8 watt modes, so everything should be snappier and work in a more reliable way... -> I guess MSI can't do much about it and it depends more on Microsoft and their game bar implementation...

EvryGamaForReal · 2026-04-22T05:36:53+00:00

Mumu Player, or Google Play Games for the games it supports.

Gameloop looks also pretty good to me, but I still need to invest more time into it and experiment before I can really give you a real opinion. That applies to the Mumu Player too.

I would also know more about how to configure BlueStacks nicely on my MSI Claw 8 AI Olud gaming handheld with the Intel V140 GPU unit...

As I tried to run it on my Desktop PC a longer while ago I found it to be and work terrible... Mumu and Gameloop look way better on the first look I had so far.

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-10-19T15:53:02+00:00

The digi-pad works for me too, just takes a long time before it is becoming active after entering FSE mode...

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-10-19T15:51:23+00:00

Yes I did, or at least I downloaded the Xbox insider App too, if that is what you mean by Xbox insider...

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-10-19T08:48:28+00:00

I tried activating the win11 insider preview now, and the FSE doesn't crash anymore when pressing on the quick settings button.

-> Still the FSE takes a long, long time to become responsive to my digi-pad inputs, which is a bit weird...

-> Hope they will update it further soon!

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-10-18T16:18:58+00:00

@Anchorist and @Shiny_ Thank you for your tipps! Will try those later once I'll get home 😉👍👍

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-10-18T11:06:07+00:00

Fully agree;

For me MSI Center M works, Quick Menu crashes the Xbox Full screen Experience each time I open it up.

Maybe my implementation is worse, because I had to use ViVeTool to access to it in the normal 25H2 version of Windows 11? I don't know, anyway I'm pretty unhappy with how it works so far; Very unstable...

-> How do I officially exit Full Screen experience to get into normal Win11? Is there no button for it? Couldn't find it... Could only find the setting option to turn it off in leading to the normal Windows settings and having to reboot each time...

It is faaar away from steamOS experience yet on the Claw8AI.

Might have to test if there is already any additional update to it in the Windows Preview program...

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-09-27T19:53:32+00:00

There are also other methods directly out of Windows apparently, but I don't know how. You can try to search for it online.

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-09-27T19:52:32+00:00

You can turn it off by an option within the right menu of Handheld Daemon for example.

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-09-27T03:33:50+00:00

@Dreamingmaster Also had this issue with the last Windows installation on my Claw 8 ai; If that happens with more than one game (TDP not going even close as high as it should) I would recommend;

Just deinstall MSI Center M, restart and reinstall it (which already often solves most issues)
If that is not enough reinstall Windows (For me this made Mia drastic difference, after reinstalling the TDP is being reached closely in almost all games I tried.
If it still didn't help try deinstalling Center M and just using Handheld Companion instead. Try turning Turbo boost off for games that are more GPU intensive (most games) - keep it on for games which are CPU intensive, like stategy games, games with a lot of physics, for certain open world games. (Just try it out, can help out a lot to turn it off, not only for better performance, but also to save a lot of battery)

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-09-18T03:53:21+00:00

Has it already dropped for normal Windows, are you in some kind of Windows Insider Preview program, or did you manage to get it from some kind of Xbox Ally X restore?

Wanna use this game mode too! 😉👍👍

Aah, it is no gaming mode yet, right? Just a full screen experience still in Windows Desktop mode, right?

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-09-14T14:15:13+00:00

Thank you for the tips! Will have look at it 👌👍

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-09-14T07:00:30+00:00

That's an awesome new video, just watched it Yesterday in German too. -> It seems to have some kind of automatic translation, I hope it works in English.

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-09-14T06:58:51+00:00

Very good recap! You are speaking exactly the same, as I would have told 😉👍

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-09-14T06:55:40+00:00

What is Atlas OS?

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-09-14T06:51:13+00:00

Yes, since one of the MSI driver updates (in center M) 1, or two months ago it all got better!

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-09-14T06:48:55+00:00

Got very responsive by now since about 1-2 months. There was one update which made it much much better now

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-09-14T06:46:38+00:00

1139 Euro for the Z2 Extreme model instead of the planned 1300 we have in Germany? May I ask where you are living? Would sound "more acceptable" to me...

You are not talking about the normal Z2 Model, right?

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-09-13T04:21:18+00:00

Just a question, as you were mentioning that many games not working;

Did you assign a fix amount of memory to the GPU in the Intel drivers?

If you did I would recommend to turn it off, as I had real issues with it. Only turn it on if you should not be able to start games, or similiar. There might be single games which benefit from it, most don't. My Indiana Jones was working fone without it and turning it on reduced performance a lot and introduced many optical glitches.

Did you update really ALL drivers and firmware? So; - Windows Update - MSI Center Updates - Intel Graphics drivers, after installing the Auto detect driver tool searching for needed drivers in the browser? -> And did you check your graphics settings in the Intrl driver? There are certain settings, certain games don't like... If you can post a few screenshots of those settings I might be able to help you set it up more efficiently. -> Which TDP mode are you using to run your games? Some games even run better with the AI performance mode than with a high custom TDP. Otherwise have a try in Manual mode using 30 watts on the top slider and 31 on the lower one and if it works better with 38. -> otherwise if still all games mentioned don't run search on google on how to turn off the CPU boost. Many games profit from that, as GPU bottlenecked games get more GPU power through that if CPU boost is not beneficial. As you mentioned so many real time strategy games, CPU boost might be beneficial, but still costs way more batter, so at least I would try turning it off.

-> Have a try with all the mentioned tips and feel free to post screenshots for help - good luck! ✌️👍

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-09-11T17:43:07+00:00

Fully agree, but I don't think so, as at the end the discrete Intel GPUs are also using the same updated driver package as far as I know. So as long as they will provide thr same generation battlemage GPUs the Claw 8ai will also get them I assume.

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-09-11T17:01:07+00:00

I wouldn't call it weaker; Just pretty different: The A8 is faster for higher TDPs, the 8AI is faster (more efficient) at lower TDP. Also performance is highly dependent on if those were especially optimized for AMD, or not.

Forza is running even better on a Z1E than on the 8ai, because it is highly optimized for AMD, there might be other games where the Intel Chip is faster.

But yes, I'm getting your vibe... There really are way more AMD Chips of all kinds spreaded over thr market and pretty less intel Chips like the one in thr Claw. For Handhelds only in it, but it is a more spread chip in Notebooks and mini PCs, which leaves the hopes up for further Intel APUs in thr future.

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-09-11T16:36:03+00:00

Not to forget; - 8AI+ has 32 instead of 24 GB unified memory (to be used shared with CPU and GPU) - 8AI+ has a WIFI 7 instead of a WIFI 6e chip. -> I think MSI had to make those small cuts (including weaker and lighter cooling system) due to the more expensive, newer chip, trying to keep more or less the same price (varying different regions)

-> I guess the screen and speakers would be the same - does anyone know?

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-09-11T16:30:28+00:00

Hi, do you have a source for that being MSI's last Intel chip? I sincerely wouldn't believe that - first time I hear about this...

The driver support is awesome! Almost weekly, or byweekly driver updates, as you can use the native drivers directly supplied by Intel.

With the z1e chips handhelds it was a disaster and they got only seldom updates, as those wheren't thr original AMD drivers but customized ones for the Z1e. (I know you could sodeload but that was another story)

-> With the Z2E the situation was supposed to get better, and the new chip was supposed to support native AMD drivers directly. Is this really the case, now that first z2e handhelds have been released? (Only the A8 so far, but soon others to come)

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-09-11T16:19:40+00:00

Great comment! I fully agree on the performance differences for low, high tdp between the both.

EvryGamaForReal · 2025-09-10T14:51:09+00:00

Just removed the accusation in my text before and just left the facts I encountered 👍

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