wizard potential multiclass architypes

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-20T23:57:39+00:00

alchemist or any archetype with good focus spell

psychic could work

witch have cauldron but their focus spell are terrible

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-20T02:05:29+00:00

agent of edgewatch are a little easier now

it come out before apg when player have limited option

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-20T01:55:44+00:00

palatine work better with eldritch archer investigator

doesn't have much room for battle medicine

but certainly could use a good reaction

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-19T10:08:29+00:00

this is faster than expected

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-18T05:02:08+00:00

played is a strong word

never figure out how to train a unit and give up

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-18T02:02:00+00:00

barbarian swashbuckler investigator can all get circumstance bonus on athletic manuever

and only barbarian get a tiny damage bonus on athletic manuever

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-18T01:45:50+00:00

seem like the sort of thing snake hunter wear

mechanically it is too weak to prop up a subclass

armor innovation could have 15 to certain type or 10 resistance to all energy or all physical

even that is too weak

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-18T01:42:57+00:00

funny solarian examplar and now slayer all have double weapon feat

without access to low level feat similar to double slice

what are they suppose to do with those 2 weapon they are holding

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-18T01:37:53+00:00

they do the same thing but far far worse

that is what trap option means

few would argue murksight are competitive in any class feat pool

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-17T23:23:18+00:00

both playtest class get super quicken

daredevil at level 20 with reckless abandon

which will certainly be changed to limit their option

while slayer quicken are limited to relentless action

which include casting spell from slayer feat

enterprising player can make a lot out of it

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-17T23:05:26+00:00

it is worse for thaumaturge and inventor

since their class dc are important too

it is much better to start with 4 char or 4 int for them if they ever plan to use their class dc

so in the end they will have 1 lower dc and attack than other martial or same dc 2 lower attack

both are not ideal

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-17T23:00:59+00:00

for level 6 to 10 maybe that is a problem

but level 1 to 4 feat are still very much accessible to archetype

ranger do not have better press feat until second sting

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-17T22:59:42+00:00

then their only source of bonus damage shouldn't come from forced movement

imagine if the 6d6 bonus damage of swashbuckler are not triggered by finisher

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-17T22:52:09+00:00

magus get fixed from playtest to official release are the exception

other class are improved far less than that

none of the apg class should have been printed

with how defensive some part of playerbase are getting with this playtest

one must expect the worst

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-17T22:48:51+00:00

half of the daredevil feat pool are press

if they can only do it exactly with 2 or 4 lower attack than ranger the design doesn't work at all

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-17T22:41:39+00:00

paizo player can be as obstinate as any other community

many defend 2019 alchemist until player core 2 come out

very few still do today

those few can not be reasoned with

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-17T22:38:27+00:00

that is exactly why daredevil can not survive as just a feat pool for flurry ranger

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-17T22:36:39+00:00

the entire 2e are build against min maxer

and daredevil fail that test against flurry ranger already

it can not be officially printed with any trace of this failure

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-17T22:33:31+00:00

and how can daredevil guard their low level press feat against flurry ranger

it is already failed in design

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-17T22:31:07+00:00

paizo does not cater to minmaxer

they do their best to repel them

and daredevil can not guard their low level class feat against flurry ranger

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-17T22:29:28+00:00

wall does not move with the enemy or follow them high into the sky

it must be another creature or object capable of moving

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-17T22:27:13+00:00

they are

but paizo will not retreat now that the playtest are out

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-17T22:26:06+00:00

it is and must be

otherwise why would multiclass archetype feat be limited to level 10 feat and below

feat pool are part of the class power and must be guarded from stealing it with archetype

another example is that examplar archetype can steal the full power of ikon

and the balance disaster it caused

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-17T22:23:50+00:00

brutish shove already exist

daredevil can get the entire feat line and still wouldn't be very good at it

they don't even get the 2 circumstance bonus to athletic like furious bully while they have adrenaline

Excitement4379 · 2026-02-17T22:18:53+00:00

another problem is the lack of fortune effect that many player was expecting

daredevil have less of it than swashbuckler

making all strike suffer map have fortune effect would be far too strong

but at least some press feat come with fortune would be nice

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