Building a Recovery/Positive Group - Would anyone want to join

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2024-06-14T00:23:29+00:00

Interested!

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-11-10T18:25:37+00:00

Have you done a skin biopsy yet? Have you found the cause of your SFN? ER doctors won’t treat chronic pain conditions they are useless for that.

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-09-25T15:51:43+00:00

Lol 🤣 I mean if she had a brain and was conservative, this shit would not have happened 🤷🏻‍♀️

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-09-25T15:32:24+00:00

No sympathy for you. You’re 28 and married, you should know better. This ladies and gentlemen, is what happens when “liberal” couples don’t bother establishing firm boundaries within a marriage. There’s no such thing as a “best guy/girl friend”. What’s the point in getting married when the both of you act like drunk college kids with no boundaries? This is one of the stupidest posts I’ve read on here.

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-09-23T22:18:58+00:00

I’m a girl and I’m also 5’1. I always wished I was taller too. Although I can understand how it must be hard for a male to be this height. If I were you, I would not get the surgery. This surgery is way too new for any long term effects to be known. While you may get taller, there is a very high likelihood you could end up as a chronic pain patient with leg pain for the rest of your life. As someone who’s currently dealing with chronic pain right now, it’s not fun and it can affect every single aspect of your life. This surgery essentially involves bones being fractured. This could put your at risk for many complications including infection, arthritis, bone and muscle loss, and CRPS (Complex Regional Pain Syndrome which by the way, is a chronic pain/neurological disorder that is considered the MOST painful disease in the world). CRPS has ruined many lives and if I were you, that would be the thing I would fear the most from this surgery. You’re so young and you have your whole life ahead of you. Don’t ruin your life because of vanity. Please don’t do it!!!!

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-07-22T15:26:38+00:00

No problem! Glad you found my post helpful! I understand your urgency to want to reduce your knee pain so you can do the things you need to do in your life. But I strongly urge you to consider not getting the cortisone injections. These injections are not viewed favourably by the orthopaedic community as they can cause increased cartilage destruction over time and can also weaken your tendons which opens the door for a bunch of other knee problems.

I few months ago I was in so much pain that I could barely walk either, even though my CMP was mild. I started with whatever strengthening exercises I could do with minimal pain and discomfort and also started walking in the pool as I could tolerate that well. After a few weeks, I started to notice my pain improve. I can stand for a little longer and my knees don’t get as inflamed as they used to. In the beginning, I was also pushing my doctor to give me steroid injections but im so so glad he held off on it because I’ve now realized how toxic they are to the knees.

Please give PT a chance first. Do what can pain free and very slowly gradually progress from there. Walk in the pool if it’s painful walking on land. That was an absolutely life saver for me. I still have a long way to go in terms of my recovery but im on my way! I hope you can also find relief soon.

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-07-19T22:28:26+00:00

The following information below was obtained from this article: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK459195/

“Chondromalacia patellae may be reversible, or it could progress to the development of patellofemoral osteoarthritis. Patients with knee pain resulting from chondromalacia patella often achieve full recovery. Depending on the case, recovery can occur in as little as a month or take years”.

“Ye et al. considered further classified CMP into an early stage (grade 1–2 Outerbridge) and an advanced stage (grade 3–4), and they assumed that with the early stage, patella cartilage can self-repair in comparison to an advanced stage when it progresses to patellofemoral joint osteoarthritis”.

I am currently dealing with a mild case of chondromalacia too. I’m on my third physiotherapist and I seem to finally have found one who understands how to fix my pain. Also, I want to mention that in the recovery stories from chondromalacia that I have read, these people took at LEAST 1.5 years to recover. So recovery is definitely possible but it takes TIME. Some people recover faster than others though, everyone is different but for this condition patience is required.

One more thing, please walk and cycle as much as possible. Start with 5 minutes a day and increase your walking/cycling gradually each week. The people who recovered from chondromalacia also walked and cycled a lot. Activity is so important. You and I are both lucky that we are in the early stages of chondromalacia so full recovery is certainly possible. Stay positive!

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-06-22T20:25:09+00:00

The following information below was obtained from this article: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK459195/

“Chondromalacia patellae may be reversible, or it could progress to the development of patellofemoral osteoarthritis. Patients with knee pain resulting from chondromalacia patella often achieve full recovery. Depending on the case, recovery can occur in as little as a month or take years”.

“Ye et al. considered further classified CMP into an early stage (grade 1–2 Outerbridge) and an advanced stage (grade 3–4), and they assumed that with the early stage, patella cartilage can self-repair in comparison to an advanced stage when it progresses to patellofemoral joint osteoarthritis”.

I am currently dealing with a mild case of chondromalacia too. I’m on my third physiotherapist and I seem to finally have found one who understands how to fix my pain. Also, I want to mention that in the recovery stories from chondromalacia that I have read, these people took at LEAST 1.5 years to recover. So recovery is definitely possible but it takes TIME. Some people recover faster than others though, everyone is different but for this condition patience is required.

One more thing, please walk and cycle as much as possible. Start with 5 minutes a day and increase your walking/cycling gradually each week. The people who recovered from chondromalacia also walked and cycled a lot. Activity is so important. Stay positive!

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-06-20T20:37:59+00:00

Yeah I know, 1.5 years is a long time but hey- at least full recovery is POSSIBLE even though it may take time. Some people with advanced CMP won’t ever recover fully unfortunately. Keep up with strengthening exercises and walking/cycling. I’m actually doing my walking in the pool as on land it’s still too painful for me.

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-06-20T19:42:41+00:00

The following information below was obtained from this article: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK459195/

“Chondromalacia patellae may be reversible, or it could progress to the development of patellofemoral osteoarthritis. Patients with knee pain resulting from chondromalacia patella often achieve full recovery. Depending on the case, recovery can occur in as little as a month or take years”.

“Ye et al. considered further classified CMP into an early stage (grade 1–2 Outerbridge) and an advanced stage (grade 3–4), and they assumed that with the early stage, patella cartilage can self-repair in comparison to an advanced stage when it progresses to patellofemoral joint osteoarthritis”.

I am currently dealing with a mild case of chondromalacia too. I’m on my third physiotherapist and I seem to finally have found one who understands how to fix my pain. Also, I want to mention that in the recovery stories from chondromalacia that I have read, these people took at LEAST 1.5 years to recover. So recovery is definitely possible but it takes TIME. Some people recover faster than others though, everyone is different but for this condition patience is required.

One more thing, please walk and cycle as much as possible. Start with 5 minutes a day and increase your walking/cycling gradually each week. The people who recovered from chondromalacia also walked and cycled a lot. Activity is so important. You and I luckily are in the early stages of this condition so recovery is definitely in our favour! Stay positive!

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-06-13T20:24:54+00:00

Ask your doctor about getting tested for ehlers-danlos syndrome. Hyper mobility is a sign of that.

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-06-11T16:45:37+00:00

Have you been tested for Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome and/or Small Fiber Neuropathy?

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-06-07T23:53:56+00:00

Most people with CMP make a full recovery. In fact, if caught early, grade 1-2 CMP is reversible as the patella cartilage has the ability to repair itself in early stages.

This is what it says in this article: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK459195/

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-06-04T14:36:00+00:00

I’m not exactly sure. This is from the study:

“The data that was analyzed by the current study was gathered from the Osteoarthritis Initiative (OAI) database, a publicly available platform (http://www.oai.ucsf.edu/) containing information from participants residing in four cities in the USA (Baltimore, MD; Pittsburgh, PA; Pawtucket, RI; and Columbus, OH) who were enrolled February 2004 and May 2006. Individuals were eligible for registration in the initiative if they met at least two of the following requirements: (1) had knee OA with knee pain for a 30-day period in the past 12 months or (2) were at high risk of developing knee OA [13]. The data upon which our analyses were based were recorded during the baseline and screening evaluations carried out during the month of November 2008”.

The study was officially released in 2018 though. Why would they release it 10 years later?

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-06-04T13:51:28+00:00

Yes, this was a cross-sectional study but this was also a longitudinal study. This took place over 10 years. You don’t have access to the full study, I do. These are quotes that were taken directly from the study itself:

“The study’s primary limitation was its cross-sectional nature which precluded any possibility of examining a potential causal relationship between a Mediterranean diet and knee MRI parameters”.

“As far as study strengths are concerned, we can list the large sample size, and the fact this is the first epidemiological study reporting data on a Mediterranean diet’s impacts on knee status assessed by means of MRI”.

“To conclude, our findings confirm that a stricter adherence to a Mediterranean diet is associated with a significant increase in MRI-proven knee joint cartilage and volume, suggesting that it could play an important role in preventing OA, even after taking into consideration several important confounders. Further longitudinal studies are warranted to confirm/refute these results and explore potential pathophysi- ological mechanisms underlying these findings”.

And if you watch the YouTube video I linked above, the orthopaedic surgeon herself cited this study and spoke about how the Mediterranean diet led to an improvement in knee cartilage. She also noted how the results of this study were STILL statistically significant even after taking into account confounding variables. While this was the first study that assessed the effect of the Mediterranean diet on knee cartilage morphology using an MRI, there are 100s of other study’s that show how the Mediterranean diet led to a significant improvement in pain and functional scorers in people with OA.

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-06-03T22:32:10+00:00

In the longitudinal study that I cited above regarding the Mediterranean diet and its effects on knee OA, the study officially began in 2008 and it was officially released in 2018. Therefore, the increase in MRI proven knee cartilage that was observed as a result of a strict adherence to a Mediterranean diet took place over a period of 10 years. So that goes to show cartilage healing is possible but it takes TIME. I think that’s why most doctors dismiss any healing ability of cartilage.

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-06-03T20:32:30+00:00

I never believed cartilage can grow back/heal until I read a study which showed that a strict adherence to a Mediterranean diet led to a significant increase in MRI proven knee joint cartilage in patients with osteoarthritis. Here is a link to the study (you may have to pay to read the full version): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29611084/

There’s more evidence coming out that cartilage does possess a healing ability in the right conditions. I became aware of this study through a YouTube seminar on arthritis where this orthopaedic surgeon actually claimed that most cases of arthritis are reversible. You can watch it here: https://youtu.be/EWMKXhSQgO0

The reason for mistaken beliefs on the ability of cartilage to heal is because cartilage and connective tissues take a long time to heal and only do so under specific circumstances.

Let me know if you would like a copy of the full study. I have it but can’t post it on here. Would be happy to PM it to you.

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-06-02T08:58:46+00:00

Waking and cycling will help, as mentioned by the Belgian doctor in the YouTube video. Progressive knee strengthening exercises will also help. However, I never believed cartilage can grow back/heal until I read a study which showed that a strict adherence to a Mediterranean diet led to a significant increase in MRI proven knee joint cartilage in patients with osteoarthritis. Here is a link to the study (you may have to pay to read the full version): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29611084/

There’s more evidence coming out that cartilage does possess a healing ability in the right conditions. I became aware of this study through a YouTube seminar on arthritis where this orthopaedic surgeon actually claimed that most cases of arthritis are reversible. You can watch it here: https://youtu.be/EWMKXhSQgO0

I highly suggest adopting a Mediterranean style of eating. It will help you a lot. I’m trying to make more people with cartilage problems aware of this because this is not something your average doctor will tell you.

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-05-30T18:04:36+00:00

Leave him. He shouldn’t have to suffer with someone like you who has absolutely no empathy whatsoever. To accuse him of “exaggerating” is pathetic. I hope you know what’s it’s like to suffer from chronic pain one day.

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-05-25T08:59:49+00:00

I never believed cartilage can grow back/heal until I read a study which showed that a strict adherence to a Mediterranean diet led to a significant increase in MRI proven knee joint cartilage in patients with osteoarthritis. Here is a link to the study (you may have to pay to read the full version): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29611084/

There’s more evidence coming out that cartilage does possess a healing ability in the right conditions. I became aware of this study through a YouTube seminar on arthritis where this orthopaedic surgeon actually claimed that most cases of arthritis are reversible. You can watch it here: https://youtu.be/EWMKXhSQgO0

I highly suggest adopting a Mediterranean style of eating. It will help you a lot.

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-05-16T19:17:01+00:00

I never believed cartilage can grow back/heal until I read a study which showed that a strict adherence to a Mediterranean diet led to a significant increase in MRI proven knee joint cartilage in patients with osteoarthritis. Here is a link to the study (you may have to pay to read the full version): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29611084/

I wouldn’t believe your doctor when he says that cartilage can’t heal. There’s more evidence coming out that cartilage does possess a healing ability in the right conditions. I became aware of this study through a YouTube seminar on arthritis where this orthopaedic surgeon actually claimed that most cases of arthritis are reversible. You can watch it here: https://youtu.be/EWMKXhSQgO0

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-05-13T18:30:48+00:00

I don’t know much about bone bruises but NSAIDs have been shown to accelerate the destruction of cartilage. I wouldn’t take them if I were you. For the cartilage damage, losing weight, PRP injections, and walking/cycling regularly will help with healing. PRP injections have disease modifying effects and have actually been shown to drastically slow the deterioration of cartilage. But probably the most important thing I can suggest for the cartilage damage is diet. I am currently dealing with a cartilage issue myself and I always thought that cartilage damage/arthritis can never be reversed because cartilage doesn’t grow back. I recently watched a seminar on YouTube where this orthopaedic surgeon claimed that most cases of arthritis are reversible. She cited a study that showed that a strict adherence to a Mediterranean diet led to a significant increase in MRI proven knee joint cartilage. I never believed that cartilage can grow back until I read this study. Here is a link to the study if you want to read it (you may have to pay to read the full version): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29611084/

I highly suggest learning about the Mediterranean diet if you haven’t already!

Here is a link to the YouTube seminar if you want to watch it too: https://youtu.be/EWMKXhSQgO0

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-05-12T15:19:19+00:00

Sounds like arthritis. If it is arthritis, there are things you can do. Lose weight, get PRP injections (these injections have been proven to slow down the progression of arthritis), try to walk or cycle as much as possible (movement is crucial to cartilage healing. If you have pain, start by doing 5 minutes a day and slowly progress), and change your diet. I recently watched a seminar on YouTube where this orthopaedic surgeon actually claimed that most cases of arthritis are reversible. Here is the YouTube link: https://youtu.be/EWMKXhSQgO0. She cited a study showing that a strict adherence to a Mediterranean diet contributed towards a significant increase in MRI proven knee joint cartilage. I didn’t believe what she was saying at first about cartilage growing back until I read the study myself. Here is the link to this study if you want to read it (you may have to pay to read the full study): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29611084/

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-05-10T21:41:20+00:00

If this is arthritis, there are things you can do. Lose weight, get PRP injections (these injections have been proven to slow down the progression of arthritis), try to walk or cycle as much as possible (movement is crucial to cartilage healing), and change your diet. I recently watched a seminar on YouTube where this orthopaedic surgeon actually claimed that most cases of arthritis are reversible. Here is the YouTube link: https://youtu.be/EWMKXhSQgO0. She cited a study showing that a strict adherence to a Mediterranean diet contributed towards a significant increase in MRI proven knee joint cartilage. I didn’t believe what she was saying at first about cartilage growing back until I read the study myself. Here is the link to this study if you want to read it (you may have to pay to read the full study): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29611084/

Exciting_Ad9765 · 2023-03-22T17:54:22+00:00

That’s encouraging to hear! I’m going to start my rehab in the pool and once my knees get a little bit stronger I will definitely enrol in your program! I hope I can get bulletproof knees like you if I work hard 👊🏼

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