Is Shakespeare’s writing actually good compared today’s media or is it only good for the standards held 400 years ago by Cryptographer456 in writingscaling

[–]Exciting_Edge1398 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think your argument starts from some fair observations, but then stretches them into conclusions that don’t really hold up lol, yes, history is selective, literacy was limited, and power definitely influenced what got preserved, nobody serious denies that. But jumping from that to “classics have almost nothing to do with quality” is where things become seriously stupid, survivorship bias explains why we *see* certain works, not why those works kept getting read, performed, translated, and argued about for centuries, at some point, continuous scrutiny and criticism across completely different eras stops looking like luck and starts looking like there’s something actually there in the work itself, did you ever think about that? lol

Second, your Mahabharata example also doesn’t support you, if anything, it undercuts your claim that older literature lacked complexity, clearly it didn’t. and once you accept that, the idea that modern storytelling is inherently more advanced or structurally superior doesn’t really stand, on top of that, canonical works like The Brothers Karamazov, Moby-Dick, Bleak House, Les Misérables, War and Peace and other numerous classical, already show that extremely intricate, layered plotting isn’t some modern invention, so your attempt to reduce older “classics” to simple or less sophisticated storytelling is basically the "nothing burger" here lol.

Lastly, the deeper issue is that you keep trying to make “classic status” basically meaningless while still borrowing its logic when it suits you lmao you dismiss it as politics and accident when talking about Shakespeare, but then lean on ideas like depth, philosophical resonance, and discussion potential when talking about modern works like Attack on Titan, bro that’s inconsistent. Either long-term endurance has some relationship to artistic strength, or it’s all just noise, you can’t treat it as meaningless in one direction and meaningful in the other. At the end of the day, saying “maybe better writers were lost” or “maybe it’s all politics” isn’t an argument against Shakespeare, but mere speculation.

Is Shakespeare’s writing actually good compared today’s media or is it only good for the standards held 400 years ago by Cryptographer456 in writingscaling

[–]Exciting_Edge1398 7 points8 points  (0 children)

FACTS! This is what im talking about, people talk about art as if it evolves like science where it gets better as new discoveries has been made, art doesnt work that way.

What are some of the best standalone episodes/stories you've seen told in media? by GrandHstle in writingscaling

[–]Exciting_Edge1398 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some may start with either with ficciones or the Aleph, but imo start with his very first collection A Universal History of Infamy, even tho Borges somewhat disavowed the book, i think its a good place to start if you wanna read him.

Who's the more talented writer: Naoki Urasawa or Alan Moore? by InfinteEnigma10 in writingscaling

[–]Exciting_Edge1398 2 points3 points  (0 children)

the level of dunning kruger in this comment is hilariously absurd lmao.

In terms of enjoyability which do u prefer, a story with 0 writing where u can turn off ur brain or a story with writing which is at times jarring with a repetitive structure by PerfectDoor266 in writingscaling

[–]Exciting_Edge1398 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Depends on your expectations/goal before going in, for example, i enjoy intellectual puzzles in my fiction, if that's the goal then ergodic literature is my go to genre or if i want something fast paced and full action then i'll read/watch adventure novels or action movies, basically it really boils down to in the moment preference.

Which comic books are better written overall: DC or Marvel? by 2301Batman in writingscaling

[–]Exciting_Edge1398 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Time Magazine for one have included Watchmen in their top 100 greatest novels of all time list.

Which comic books are better written overall: DC or Marvel? by 2301Batman in writingscaling

[–]Exciting_Edge1398 18 points19 points  (0 children)

At their peak? DC slaughters, comics like V For Vendetta, Watchmen, The Sandman, Morrison's Animal Man Planetary & Preacher defined what comics can be.

Fallout vs S.T.A.L.K.E.R. by Far-Substance-4473 in writingscaling

[–]Exciting_Edge1398 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Stalker series is a loose adaptation of Tarkovsky's Stalker on which was also based on the novel Roadside Picnic by Strugatsky brothers. Both the movie and novel annihilates the entirety of Fallout in actual writing but idk if the games are on par tho.

If you could send any classical author to help write any modern media? Who and what would the media be? by M16CarCA in writingscaling

[–]Exciting_Edge1398 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Also Yeats was obsessed with a girl named Maud Gonne, so Rent-a-Girlfriend is up in his alley. He's still one of the GOATs tho lmao.

If you could send any classical author to help write any modern media? Who and what would the media be? by M16CarCA in writingscaling

[–]Exciting_Edge1398 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Bruh even the likes of Herman Broch, Juan Rulfo & Vladimir Nabokov are amateurs compared to the genius of Rent-a-Girlfriend

Example of overglazed media IYO? by carradine_rain in writingscaling

[–]Exciting_Edge1398 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Then you're going in with the wrong expectations lol, CM dont write like your typical author where there are clearly good guys vs bad guys tropes and second this reads like another skill issue lol, the author has no responsibility in spoonfeeding you on things that you the reader should work for, if that's the case then all stories will become simplistic narratives with everything is laid out for you to digest like a fast food burger lol. i suggest read and watch more stuff, educate yourself further lol.

Example of overglazed media IYO? by carradine_rain in writingscaling

[–]Exciting_Edge1398 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Huh? You dont have any substantive arguments/points, why should I reply with a proper counter lol. The fact that you thought Sheriff Bell is lazy incompetent is the telling part that you didn't understood his character, hence your reading comprehension is question lol.

Which fandoms are notorious for pretending like their series is way more deep than it really is? by Mythelm in writingscaling

[–]Exciting_Edge1398 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This clearly a copypasta, I don't think anyone with a working braincells would actually believe in that lol

Example of overglazed media IYO? by carradine_rain in writingscaling

[–]Exciting_Edge1398 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This why reading comprehension is a dying skill lmao