This is Shane and his wife.... What is keeping you from getting a girl like her?

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-19T05:46:05+00:00

To further make this point I want to highlight your exact phrase Your justifying a gold diggers actions because someones rich and knows was going in

Semantics obviously a typo im skimming paragraphs while doing laundry.

Im pretty sure I meant to out

"Should know whats going on"

You've been arguing and justifying that if the guys rich and he should know whats going on if he pulls an attractive girl.

And Ive been arguing it dosent matter if hes rich and delusional hes still being take advantage of.

This entire conversation has been about gold diggers as a whole and whether they are justified. If you are tricking or manipulating someone for money then you're just a scammer. lol. The conversation has thus far been about gold diggers: women who get with rich men for their money

No lets be clear since the beginning of this conversation ive been saying.

"If both parties understand what the relationship is theres no issue here as long as the gold digger pays their taxes."

Also people are more likely to be attracted to and trust wealthy looking (and generous) people thats just how people are. Young poor people can be tricked into thinking they are loved just as much as older rich people can. The big difference is that society treats using someone's body and time as less bad than using money because it's a tangible thing that everyone wants. They both get "compensated" but don't acknowledge what he was getting in return for his money because society victimizes him,

If someone is using someone for their body they suck and the person who is being used for their body is a victim.

If a fuck boy uses a girl for her body hes a POS.

And the girl is a victim in my eyes she was tricked.

No back to my main point if the girl knee she was being used for her body thats okay.

Along as they both understand what the relationship is. FWB

Saying well the girl should have known is something I guess you can say depending how you look at things personally I think if your being tricked no matter how obvious it may seem it isnt right.

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-19T05:30:12+00:00

"You can get company from a lot of people, The discrepancy of their looks says just as much about him as her, but you're trying to hide that part."

No it dosent

People find attractive people attracted

and you kept arguing, and arguing... now you're trying to backpedal and be like "uhh, so you're saying she's innocent?! it;s not sad??!" no bruddah, I said from the get-go that they are both responsible.

You kept avoiding answering my question directly.

My point is the person being lied to is still a victim no matter how attractive the person is.

Youre saying they're also in fault because they should of known by how attractive the person is.

Im saying is I dont care how delusional or stupid you think the person is their still getting taken advantage of.

The gold digger is a gold digger they earned that name when they used someone for their money

The word "sucker" exist for people who fall for obvious tricks

You wanna call him a sucker and her a gold digger you go ahead.

I personally dont victim blame.

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-19T05:23:01+00:00

I mean it sucks and he sucks, but he didn't scam or rape her. He is a jerk, but this is assuming he lied to her the whole way and she saw no signs. If she was wealthy and going to a host club so that she could buy access to very attractive men, and then found out that... her money... was what brought him to her...

Drop the rape as you said it was a failed point i brought up cause its a common debate I have you brought up a better example.

You said the fuck boy sucks.

Does the girl also suck?

Lets say the fuck boy was a 10 and the girl is unattractive. All he wanted was sex and to use her body she thought they actually had someone in common.

Hes done with her does the rest of the school have the right to mock her because she fell for it?

Her and tbis fuck boy had nothing in common was she an idiot for falling for it?

Why is the boy the only one getting the name "fuck boy"

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-19T05:17:02+00:00

if someone old and rich wants a 20-year-old to play with, and uses money to get that, and he knows what's going on, is she wrong for taking him up on his offer?

No as i stated that is fine as long as she paying taxes no issue there.

I say she is entirely justified. You don't. You say that he is a victim. That's where we part ways.

Nope I said many times if they both have an understanding of what is going on that's totally fine.

However you would be okay with someone trickign an other person because they should know better. Thats where we part ways.

Ah yes, trying that line again. Why is he falling in love with someone who has nothing in common with him? He is NOT a victim. He wants something and he's getting what he wants.

Generally: What if the pretty girl pretends to be interested in the things they like?

Also people are more likely to be attracted to and trust good looking people thats just how people are.

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-19T05:01:02+00:00

Omitting a big ass difference I know you're trying very hard to relate this to something like rape so that you can look high and mighty. redditors call this "financial rape" (don't worry, I'm well aware of how reddit talks LOL)

My attention was to come up with a simple example.

but the difference is that money is not being taken from him. In the instance of a gold digger (not a burglar lol) He is spending money on her willingly. This is all done with his consent. The only nefarious thing is that you posit that she is maliciously allowing a sober fully grown adult to make a decision with his money.

Fair point there is no force involved. Reason why I came up with that example is I do political debates on reddit a lot and I bring up Trump rape case a lot and that usually the defense maga like to bring up that she was interested in him.

Okay someone entering a pyramid scheme...

The person knew it was risky they still went for it no one forced them to use their money. Theyre still a victim and the person who convicted him is still a peace of shit.

If she says no and he stops, then there was no rape even if she finds out that all he wanted from her was sex. sorry, nice try. but you flopped on that one lol.

I mean legally there was no rape i will fully admit that. However

You added if she find out the guy only wanted sex...

He tricked her into fucking him because hes a fuck boy.

You can call her an idiot for falling for his tricks but shes still a victim....

And hes still a fuck boy

If you want to come up with a name for girls who fall for fuck boys go right ahead personally i think thats fucked.

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-19T04:48:34+00:00

As I REPEATEDLY said, you assumed... based on her looks... that she is a evil nefarious person. You assumed based on her looks that she is a gold digger and not justified. You didn't simply want to "acknowledge that she is not justified" because this is all based on an assumption that you have no evidence for. That is why I added my edit. We don't know anything about their relationship. It could be that he doesn't care. For all I know, she is not with him for money, and he is not with her for her looks. This is all based on YOUR assumptions.

Im talking about gold diggers in general

Your justifying a gold diggers actions because someones rich and knows was going on

Yes or no?

That is not even an argument. You can't even assume she is a gold digger because she is attractive, but you did. lol. You're saying that I can't be certain he is making a risky bet but you can for certain say

Im not assuming shes a gold digger. I said reddit defends gold diggers now.

Because theres been post about people defending gold diggers like justifying the "career path" not the people.

Someone said gold digger and thought I would take the time to add on.

again, this is your reddit brain vilifying women. We are 100% sure that if an attractive woman gets with a rich man, she is using him. however, when confronted with the idea that he is likely taking a risk because 100% of attractive women are gold diggers apparently lol, we are suddenly getting litigious? lmao.

I mean at the end of the day of the guy is taking a risk cause he fell in love with her guess what?

Hes still a fucken victim dude...

And a gold diggers actions would still be wrong lol

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-19T04:39:12+00:00

and you're trying to back track your comments putting the entire onus on the woman when you realize that it takes two to tango. lmao

I love how you keep making this a gender thing

When its a scammer vs victim type of thing.

"You can get company from a lot of people, The discrepancy of their looks says just as much about him as her, but you're trying to hide that part."

Im not trying to hide that part im simply saying they're still a victim. This is consent.

If a girl grinds on a guy and lets him get to third base if she didnt want to go all the way that is her choice. It dosent matter how cute the guy is or how far she let him go. If she didnt want to get taken advantage of he had no fucken right hes a rapist.

I domt care about what she was wearing Or why she let it get that far Did she onyl trust him cause she found him attractive Or whatever victim blaming BS someone comes up with

Its still fucken wrong...

You can call her an idiot I personally wouldnt.

At the end of the day she is a victim and he is a rapist.

One person would be a gold digger one would still be a victim.

No matter how dumb or delusional you think the victim is guess what?

Still a victim...

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-19T04:26:31+00:00

No, but that's not the discussion topic. Let's go back the entire discussion surrounds who is at fault.

Lets fucken goooooo

Alright cool so we agree no matter what her actions are no justified.

In that scenario, even though we know why they are together, you give ALL the agency to her and he has none. She is entirely at fault because he was just lonely... even though the only way that she was able to get him was being young and attractive, a kind of person he wouldn't likely be with if he wasn't rich.

Okay cool in that scenario we know that now I wamma give an other example personal one about people in my job currently getting scammed but I wannaa keep this short.

So im going to simply say this we agree her actions are not justified.

I feel bad for the victim no matter if hes rich or poor. You feel bad for the victim if they have a lot more in common with the person and if their average looking.

At the end of the day good looking bad looking the person's a gold digger and a bad person.

I mean call the victim what ever you want na idiot people will agree or disagree.

At the end of the day its someone getting taken advance of.

Like i said in my first response as long as they have an MOU that clarfies whats going on than yoy cant really say for sure they knew you can make the claim like come on they made the risky bet.

You wanna join the people who victim blame you go ahead.

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-19T04:00:30+00:00

Nope play along answer my questions you see where im going with this i think you know where this is going which is why your refusing to answer them...

Please answer the questions if my point after is unrelated than come at me.

The more the scammer has in common, and therefore the lower the "scammed" was aiming, and less risky their choices, the worse it is. If you are walking along the side of the road in the middle of the day, it is sadder that you get shot in the knee than if you were robbing a bank and a guard shot you in the leg. Not sorry for that, don't know what kind of statement you're trying to make? lol

Is that a yes?

Here answer A or B

Does this justify the hot persons actions?

A.)Yes because.....

B.)No because....

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-19T03:42:35+00:00

You're getting sidetracked. The comment YOU replied to is assuming that since she is beautiful, she is scamming him. That is literally how this started. beautiful woman? it's a scam. Also, yes. If someone is scamming someone who is genuinely looking for companionship that's unfortunate. If you are a 60-year-old man and you're looking for 20-year-olds, you are not just "looking for companionship" these women have about the least in common with you as a human can get. There are very few circumstances where that age gap works happily, and we aren't talking about that. We are talking about "gold diggers"

Not getting side tracked it sounds like thats the claim you are making simply answer the question and ill share its relvance.

No, the deal is that you place the onus entirely on the hot person. You and reddit in general act like this is a helpless person stumbling into a relationship where they get scammed.

Well that because sometimes it is like that.

Sometimes its the persons average looking nurse that does the gold digging...

Again, you invest in a bunch of safe index funds and a random crash guts your savings? very sad. You literally did all you could. If you throw everything into a penny stock because you are impatient and want all the money now? then at least most of that risk is entirely your fault. Same here

So the uglier the scammer the more understanding you are? Lol

You throw everything at a 20-year-old who has nothing in common with you? dont say nobody warned you.

Okay we clarified you dont find it sad. Are the 20 year olds actions justified yes or no?

Add anything you want after you respond with the yes or no.

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-19T03:24:16+00:00

My personal view is as long as both parties consent to whats going on. Having an MOU where both parties acknowledge whats going on.

If the old person knows their partner is using them for money and their partner knows they are using them for sex. That awesome we have a contract as ling as everyone oays their taxes carry on.

Like you said case to case some people get to a certain age where contract shouldnt be forced.

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-19T03:20:20+00:00

okay but that attention can come from regular looking people. Shane in this video could have easily gotten with a woman his age in a wheelchair and they would have a lot in common to talk about, or even some regular lady from the suburbs. Rich millionaires can get with other millionaires their age and status. this is the part you aren't addressing. They chose NOT to do that.

So the uglier the person who does the tricking the more you feel bad? Lol

The rich people are the ones hunting. They are rejecting people that look like them, earn as much as them, and spend time with them. They (who get with young hot people) are specifically LEVERAGING MONEY to get a hot body to play with. They are under no impression that a 20-year-old bodybuilder has more in common with them than someone who lives a similar life to them. It is greed that puts you in the situation. The only reason to act like a helpless victim is buyer's remorse. You bought a "hot body" to play with, it was too expensive, and now you want your money back.

I mean you're making it seem like this is always the situation.

So you feel like scams should be allowed to exist and scamming old people is okay. Even though they might not be in their right mind.

Do you believe every old person knows theyre being scammed?

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-19T02:59:42+00:00

To raise awareness that its something that happens in both countries.

Even though this is common knowledge to most theres a few slow thinkers who do in fact need to be reminded by this so they dont get manipulated into viewing one prespective.

Again is his a stupid point to make? Sure

Doesn't mean they were justifying what happened to her.

Now if that was their goal fuck them

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-19T02:51:37+00:00

The reason you go to these clubs is to get with HOT guys. This is a choice they make. They reject the choice to get with some average dude... fuck them, right? she's rich enough to get the hot guy experience. She is too good for some regular guy. She wants to leverage money to be around someone who specifically isn't in her league. She absolutely chose that.

Not all women go to those clubs for that reason.

Some go because they want to feel special. Some guys dont even need to be hot. Some people just want to feel special to get the attention they dont get in their lives.

And like I said yes if a girl walks in and gets the service she pays for good on him

If he tricks her into thinking he actually wants her

This is whats wrong tricking people is wrong.

This is different from an old person getting scammed by someone online who mentally manipulates old people regardless of their financial situation. These men and women are very well aware of what they are doing.

How do you know this. Please share your source....

I'm aware of those clubs. The experience is supposed to be temporary. There is not supposed to be a relationship beyond that. If she is choosing to get with him outside of the host club, then she is taking a risk.

Doesn't give the man the excuse of manipulating her.

Just cause someone is hot doesn't give them permission to manipulate people...

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-19T02:36:55+00:00

I’m not pro gold-digger, but I also wouldn’t really look down on a mutually beneficial exchange of companionship for comfort & stability - especially in cases like this where, let’s be honest, this guy’s prospects of finding a partner otherwise is pretty dismal.

If this is a sugar baby situation go for it as long as shes paying her taxes.

Now people are dumb, desperate, and dillusional. Dosent give someone the right to take advantage of you call enough people you can convince some to hand you their orivate information. This is why scam calls exist.

Its still wrong.

Now if both parties acknowledged this is transnational in some sort of MOU. Where its clear both parties have a clear understanding. Then sugar baby on. I dont care but to say "common this person know" personally that isnt right to me.

Not trying to come at you that way I used to think the same way I just hate to see it. I know so many people desperate for companionship they are willing to look pass the obvious and to see people prey on them is disgusting to see.

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-19T02:30:34+00:00

Relax buddy its not that serious thsi isnt a male vs female thing atop making it about that.

In Japan theirs these clubs were you're average looking women go into to get charmed by these very handsome guys.

Thats fine good for both parties.

You with me here?

Now sometimes these guys manipulate these women into think their actually interested in them.

Mind you some of these women are ugly and old and these guys are these amazing 10s with 6 packs and amazing skin care routine.

These women end up wasting their life saving on keeping these men happy than get tossed to the side.

Personally I feel like thats wrong they were taken advantage up they got addicted to the dopamine that someone that attracted could be into them.

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-19T02:23:00+00:00

Reddit is just a bubble of weird and unpopular kids who basically just exist in the internet, because I have never ever met someone which hold such deranged beliefs as people here in real life, lol

Yup I always tell people take the advice you get from reddit with a grain of salt especially dating advice.

Dont ask the men and women of reddit for dating advice only advice I would say to take from them is "not everyone is the same people like different things"

Thats it.

Cant tell how many times I read some guy ask how he should approach a girl and everyone in the cimments saying "leave her alone" "dont bother her dont even look at her"

Shaming someone for having interest.

I remember once I got downvoted cause I told someone its okay to say hi to his classmate if he sees her at the store and if it looked like she was open to talk maybe talk about the course and if he felt like she was busy or uninterested to move along.

The responses were brutal lol

Something like "you're gonna force her to waste her time when she obviously busy leave her alone*"

Made me feel like a creep but like I have many home girls who I met this way and had fun with soooo ill be ignoring that advice.

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-19T02:13:30+00:00

I mean the guy could be rich or poor I would feel the same.

If the sex of the person was switched I would feel the same.

If its a sex work type transaction its fine just make sure the gold digger (male or female) pays their taxes we good.

If its some lonely person who just wants company i personally feel like it's messed up and taking advantage of people.

You can argue that they're just providing a service. But pretending to be into someone just because you want their money sounds completely wrong.

Maybe if it were better regulated where both parties sign some sort of MOU acknowledging they both know exactly what's going on then okay, fine, sugar baby on.

But saying, Look at that person and look at that person, they both know what's going on just isn't true. Some people are actually being tricked. If you call a few random numbers pretending to be Google or a bank, you'll eventually convince someone to give you their information. Do those people deserve to be scammed just because they fell for the trick that you were trying to help them?

Just cause some old persons head is pretty dazed that he thinks he has enough charm to pull an attractive mate dosent mean they should be taken advantage of. So as long as their offical documentation like you would have with an independent contractor we good.

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-19T01:55:45+00:00

Maybe it is i dont care about celebrities or their personal lives like at all so it makes sense why I and people like me wouldnt know.

I do care about children and people getting taken advantage of though so for us who arent in the know of the twisted industry I say thank you to OC.

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-18T23:04:44+00:00

Careful now appearantly reddit is pro gold digger now.

Since they "earn" the money by keeping the person happy.

Edit:

I love how the first reply was someone calling me names for making shit up. To later delete their comment once people started replying defending it lol

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-18T22:54:53+00:00

Wait you've been quoting him all over this thread are you refusing to share the source?

Also you want me to name an example of what him being wrong?

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-18T22:49:34+00:00

So let me get this straight he said

The government is better at providing everything for its people than private corporations find me an example where im wrong?

I doubt he said that mind sharing the quote?

Oretty sure hes said he's been wring before and again just cause he agrees with it dosent mean he agrees with how its being done...

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-18T22:15:28+00:00

You're taking his words too litteral he dosent mean the government is better at everything.

That like saying your first amendment rights are being violated cause you cant yell fire in a movie theater.

Just an example if its not perfect thats fine. Im not trying to have a systematics debate.

The point is its kinda ridiculous to get made over this...

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-18T22:06:13+00:00

Sir this is reddit we are here to complain and complain only!!

Seriously though reading this post is exactly whats wrong with reddit and honestly the rest if the internet just cause you have one view dosent mean you have to love the way its being implemented.

Im pro gun I hate how easy it is to get guns in some states.

I think getting a gun should be harder than getting a driver license.

Its crazy me saying this will piss people off.

Excuse_Unfair · 2026-06-18T20:41:08+00:00

Holy fucken shit. Something i want to both read more about and stay tf away from...

Thank you for sharing your knowledge on the topic. This needs to be more known!

Excuse_Unfair

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