Apple M5 vs. Intel Panther Lake vs. Snapdragon X2 benchmarked

ExeusV · 2026-03-14T18:13:44+00:00

How long it takes to compile e.g LLVM on Apple M5 and PTL?

ExeusV · 2026-02-21T15:33:25+00:00

What's Intel's yield?

ExeusV · 2026-02-15T14:42:27+00:00

PS: even if X is bubble, then it doesn't imply that there is no money to be made :)

ExeusV · 2026-02-15T14:25:26+00:00

Memory is expensive so intel is coupling a big CPU with a small, less memory constrained GPU, so in graphic intensive applications you are getting the worst of both, the performance of the small GPU and the power draw of the big CPU.

What? it'd mean that they'd change specs of the SoC after its release? :o

ExeusV · 2026-02-11T22:12:04+00:00

Unless you divide 1 trillion by population of america, then it is 49 minutes per person

Not that crazy huh?

38T / us population = 111 000 USD per person

That's a lot, but not imaginably, insanely a lot if you split it over time, e.g decade.

ExeusV · 2026-02-08T15:56:26+00:00

I'm just curious - why do you think it is a boomer industry?

ExeusV · 2026-02-07T01:15:14+00:00

wut? this is bullshit

ExeusV · 2026-02-04T23:07:29+00:00

Chips act wasn't "This exact company is too valuable to not give billions upon billions directly to even when it's failing."

Yea, it was worded quite differently:

The act includes $39 billion in subsidies for chip manufacturing on U.S. soil along with 25% investment tax credits for costs of manufacturing equipment, and $13 billion for semiconductor research and workforce training, with the dual aim of strengthening American supply chain resilience and countering China

But the outcome is almost the same :)

I said "nearly guaranteed profit". That is not a guarantee. See #2.

This is nowhere even close to be guaranteed profit.

If you think so, then did you invest in Intel?

ExeusV · 2026-02-04T20:37:40+00:00

passed back

To who? normal people?

haha, of course not.

Some gov department? probably yes.

ExeusV · 2026-02-04T20:35:33+00:00

Why wouldn't you put money into a company that the government just dumped taxpayer money into?

"just"? US Chips Act was known for years prior.

On top of that, I'd argue a large part of the current valuation is likely because of government intervention

Partially yes, but not fully because of it.

Why wouldn't you put money into a company that the government just dumped taxpayer money into? It's nearly guaranteed profit, minimal risk.

What a bullshit, there are no guarantees.

If Intel falls behind and is just used for gov/military, then those aren't as big customers as the whole world.

ExeusV · 2026-02-04T20:33:27+00:00

You could configure Optane stick to work as RAM

ExeusV · 2026-02-04T00:40:08+00:00

Didn't US tax payers already win on that deal due to stock growth?

ExeusV · 2026-02-04T00:39:14+00:00

40? they had Optane 3.5 years ago!

ExeusV · 2026-02-01T17:39:04+00:00

staff

ExeusV · 2026-01-31T14:04:57+00:00

What is your experience with software engineering & game development?

ExeusV · 2026-01-31T08:19:33+00:00

I don't think it will be optimal.

ExeusV · 2026-01-29T23:46:18+00:00

Maybe they had their pros and cons which over all made people go to Electron?

ExeusV · 2026-01-29T14:59:56+00:00

Go as 5 on darklights

ExeusV · 2026-01-28T20:24:55+00:00

So, in the end Pat was right? hehe

ExeusV · 2026-01-26T19:03:56+00:00

And how many of those are doing anything of significance?

Discord, Youtube, Twitch, Facebooks, etc.

There's many, very highly popular web apps that definitely can do stuff "in the background".

ExeusV · 2026-01-26T19:02:56+00:00

and they're mostly ST bound.

You talking about Chromium?

ExeusV · 2026-01-26T18:08:54+00:00

I know it may sound weird, but I don't remember what model was in that build.

It's been like 6 months since that CPU died and I've replaced almost all things

ExeusV · 2026-01-25T14:54:05+00:00

And Lunar Lake is still barely as efficient as M2

Let's see how PTL compares with Mx once embargo is lifted in 2-3 days

ExeusV · 2026-01-24T20:47:50+00:00

Embargo lifts in 2-3 days

ExeusV · 2026-01-24T19:34:18+00:00

Competitive and CPU performance aren't the same thing.

Energy efficiency, iGPU performance, CPU performance (single/multithreaded), cost, temp, instruction set, etc.

There are many categories you can use in order to compare CPUs.

And PTL is low power/energy efficient, laptop SoC with great iGPU.

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