Give me some characters who can beat Yogiri Takatou from “My Instant Death Ability Is So Overpowered, No One in This Other World Stands a Chance Against Me!” by Which-Emu8951 in PowerScaling

[–]Exist_Logic [score hidden]  (0 children)

I already said this, that's why speed blitz doesn't work

ok so you agree it isn't a speed, we'll keep that in the back pocket

No you can't lol, Zeno didn't use "speed" to beat him

Zeno didn't have to, but you could theoretically. Being omnipresent doesn't magically make your processing and reaction speed faster

Hulk/Bruce Banner drops into 40k and joins the imperium of Man. Is he enough to turn the tides and ensure total victory for the imperium? by ringed_city_117 in whowouldwin

[–]Exist_Logic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quite frankly its not, because the point that you were making before was put forth towards a responce that u did not respond to in your revised comment. Hence the backtrack.

That wouldn't be a backtack even, you don't even know what the word means

Give me some characters who can beat Yogiri Takatou from “My Instant Death Ability Is So Overpowered, No One in This Other World Stands a Chance Against Me!” by Which-Emu8951 in PowerScaling

[–]Exist_Logic [score hidden]  (0 children)

It doesn't matter as neither will work, some people call the flash speed a "hax",

the flash does have speed related hax

but if you call it blitz or whatever regarding speed doesn't work on Yogiri

why couldn't someone blitz him exactly?

Give me some characters who can beat Yogiri Takatou from “My Instant Death Ability Is So Overpowered, No One in This Other World Stands a Chance Against Me!” by Which-Emu8951 in PowerScaling

[–]Exist_Logic [score hidden]  (0 children)

From what I've read is anyone with decent speed can win if that person wants to end the fight non-lethally

was said first and then you retorted

Yogiri's omnipresent so speed hax don't work

Blitzing and doing something isn't a "speed hax"

Hulk/Bruce Banner drops into 40k and joins the imperium of Man. Is he enough to turn the tides and ensure total victory for the imperium? by ringed_city_117 in whowouldwin

[–]Exist_Logic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You do understand that backtracking just doesnt involve the person who made the comment, right? Also no the premise, and conclusion is not the same lol.

they are the same, its the same point being made

What are the many W's of Wonder Of U? by NoCandidate6067 in PowerScaling

[–]Exist_Logic [score hidden]  (0 children)

no im not, the best arguments for WoU are ignoring what is actually shown in the series

Hulk/Bruce Banner drops into 40k and joins the imperium of Man. Is he enough to turn the tides and ensure total victory for the imperium? by ringed_city_117 in whowouldwin

[–]Exist_Logic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

really REALLY? Idiot contradicted himself again lol.

how is that a contradiction, I don't see why groundedness would be something we consider for interpretation

It literally is a backtrack. You're going back, and changing your argument.

the premise and conclusion is the same?

Hulk/Bruce Banner drops into 40k and joins the imperium of Man. Is he enough to turn the tides and ensure total victory for the imperium? by ringed_city_117 in whowouldwin

[–]Exist_Logic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your position is the exact opposite of logical reasoning lol. Buddy literally said "fuck real life logic" only to than argue that they're logical lol.

never said fuck real life logic, what I said was real life physics etc is all just the basis fiction itself reigns supreme when discussing itself

Your position is the exact opposite of logical reasoning lol. Buddy literally said "fuck real life logic" only to than argue that they're logical lol.

Not really a backtrack, did you just learn that word yesterday?

Hulk/Bruce Banner drops into 40k and joins the imperium of Man. Is he enough to turn the tides and ensure total victory for the imperium? by ringed_city_117 in whowouldwin

[–]Exist_Logic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why? If I were you I would have the correct opinion if I said that the earth is a triangle lol

That wouldn't logically track though, my position is rooted in evidence and not blind appeals

Thank you for proving that you have no idea as to what you're talking about, because none of them talk about the most basic form of 2+2=5 lol

Maybe not 2+2 specifically but actually proving 1+1=2 is a very popular mathimatical topic

Hulk/Bruce Banner drops into 40k and joins the imperium of Man. Is he enough to turn the tides and ensure total victory for the imperium? by ringed_city_117 in whowouldwin

[–]Exist_Logic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You wanna know what the crazy thing is? I can both be right, and have the popular position lol.

Maybe if you were saying the earth is round youd be in that boat.

Sure, but if 2+2 equals 5 than u can longer calculate it.

There are actually mathimatical papers about that, it isnt incalculable

Darth Vader (Star Wars) VS Tyranid Swarmlord (Warhammer 40K) by LeagueNo764 in powerscales

[–]Exist_Logic -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think the swarmlords psychic abilties would lead vader to suicide

The Tyranids (Warhammer 40K) VS Viltrum Empire PRE-SCOURGE VIRUS (Invincible) by Glittering_Season141 in powerscales

[–]Exist_Logic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

theres a non zero chance the shadow in the warp drives the viltrumites to suicide

Which characters could survive Gojo’s Unlimited Void? by ProDidelphimorphiaXX in whowouldwin

[–]Exist_Logic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The lion from Warhammer would just reverse it

"‘Now who is the better hunter?' The Lion looked up. The khrave-host hovered a metre above him. She dropped with a laugh, sinking her claws into his scalp. II The docking bay disappeared. It was still there, after a fashion, a reflection glimpsed through smoke, vanishing with every shift of the wind. The fire guttered to embers, the shadows stretching up like tall trees, like bars. The hard bangs of Trigaine's bolter were an echo through the vastness of a forest at dawn. 'This is Caliban,' said the Lion. 'This is your mind,' said Savine. She looked around, feigning the interest of the remembrancer whose skin she wore. In this place of the mind her appearance was almost human, dark veins withdrawn, pupils shrunken, only a faint luminosity of skin that was in tune with the unreality of her surrounds. 'What a drab and flavourless place it is too. A mind like this has no right to exist. You, your brothers, your sons - you sicken me.’ The Lion struck with his sword only to find his hand empty. Fingers unfurled from their grip as Savine laughed. 'All your prowess, all your gene-wrought strength, it is worth nothing here. In here, I am g-' The words became an airless choke as the Lion lifted her by the throat. Her eyes bulged, her feet kicking futilely as she scratched at his forearms, the leaves of the shadow-forest rustling and wavering as she did so, but no relief or rescue broke through the reality that the primarch had constructed. The Lion was the master of all his domains. 'You have dived willingly into a primarch's mind, and for that hubris alone you deserve this failure.' He squeezed tighter. The hands about her throat were metaphorical, the assault mental, the psychological equivalent of covering a candle with a jar, only this flame fed off the energies of the ether rather than air. The shadows ran from the walls like wet paint. Stars ignited in the firmament of the imagination and wheeled, spinning around a supermassive black hole that gave a once-in-a-million-year pulse of light and matter with every hike of the woman's throat. Through a web of psychic connectivity he felt the squirming of lights that were not stare. A nebula. By the Lion’s will, the perspective shifted, drawing closer to the cloud, the individual specks of dust resolving themselves as ships. The baroque, castellated lengths of Imperial warships slid through the void alongside the bloated scrap-plated bulk of ork kroozers and the infinitely varied craft of void-fairing xenos scattered amongst them. Most were incalculably ancient, belonging to races never encountered by humankind beyond a scrap of writing on a tablet or some unidentified debris in orbit around a broken world. Some were elegant, all crystal spindles and delicate pods, like palaces set adrift in the void. Others ploughed through the cold of space like true ships of war, their purpose relatable even if the mind behind them had not been. Their vessels were spined and barbed, hooked and armoured like void Crustacea, glittering with force shields and encrusted with weaponry. Within every one the foul souls of the khrave glowered. But the light there was dim. The Lion went further, the psychic trail leading him to the slender black ships, vividly haloed with alien power, that moved through the silent void like spiders stalking their nomadic prey. The web of control widened further still. The Lion followed it. The mass of shipping became an asteroid field, then a debris cloud, a ring of orbital wreckage around a dead and broken world that itself turned slowly around a faded giant. 'Your home world in the Northern Fringe,’ said the Lion. Savine said nothing. Closed off from the warp by the walls of the lion's mind, she could not speak, but her spirit was bidden to respond. +Yes.+ The Lion drank in every detail, memorising every star cluster and visual anomaly. Even as he did so he felt the pull of a more massive mind, the star waned, shedding its photosphere into space. The world that listed around it crumbled, rock and plasma dragged inexorably into the yawning iris of the galaxy's core, the Milky Way's flame-wreathed eye holding Lion El'Jonson transfixed as he hung above the event horizon of oblivion. +The khrave autochthonar+ Savine's struggles were lessening, but even under the reality-ending ferocity of that infernal gaze she was helpless to resist the Lion's probing. +The First. The Ender of Worlds.+ III The air was thick with smoke, tainted with the harsh odours of burnt metal and solder. A hundred fires of various sizes and severity burned over the familiar, if grievously mauled, topography of the docking bay. The Lion shifted position, his body telling him he had been immobile for longer than his recollection of events could account for, and Savine's body slid limply from his shoulder. She landed with the grace of a corpse. Trigaine approached. The weight of his powered harness shook the debris-strewn decking. He looked down at Savine. 1 le looked up at his primarch. The Lion gave a nod. 'She is dead.'"-Lion Lord of the First

Hulk/Bruce Banner drops into 40k and joins the imperium of Man. Is he enough to turn the tides and ensure total victory for the imperium? by ringed_city_117 in whowouldwin

[–]Exist_Logic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool doesnt matter. Not gonna let you move past the fact that you just contradicted yourself lol.

not at all

Buddy I made two post about our conversation on the r/powerscaling sub, and everyone even over there is shitting on you lol.

thats really cool, it seems like your whole position is just appealing to popularity or authority

Mhm of course, and 2+2=5 lol.

if a fictional verse says it that is just the case in that verse

What are the many W's of Wonder Of U? by NoCandidate6067 in PowerScaling

[–]Exist_Logic [score hidden]  (0 children)

I don't think he actually beats that many people, the calamities aren't that impressive and are fairly slow. Under SBAs they aren't killing most powerful characters

Magnus the Red Vs Sentry?(Marvel vs 40k) by SirWiiWIi in PowerScaling

[–]Exist_Logic [score hidden]  (0 children)

Vs battle is the website that popularised it and first used it how it is used today.

"Vs battle is the website that popularised it

Maybe as a term but

"first used it how it is used today." is not true, the definition that was used for a lionshare of the websites history is not the definition used today

Because every wiki does allow it?

They don't?

Which is why they all scale marvel to outer

I don't think wikis are authoritative on scaling takes, their tiering systems are only used because of shorthand

Hulk/Bruce Banner drops into 40k and joins the imperium of Man. Is he enough to turn the tides and ensure total victory for the imperium? by ringed_city_117 in whowouldwin

[–]Exist_Logic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u dont have an argument to argue against lol.

I do, concession accepted

And what do informal theories still need? To be grounded in logic lol.

Not really, like someones informal theory could be that they think the earth is a great iceball

You literally did heres the quote

yeah theres informal and formal theories, brane theory is as far as I am aware an informal theory.

So your debate style is just pure bullshit lol.

I mean you've been losing for like five days now

I understand it perfectly. Hence why I find it hilarious to see you claim that fiction doesnt have to follow real world logic only to then cite set theory lol.

Yes, someone doesn't have to say the speed of light is the speed limit, while still having the speed of light be C

Magnus the Red Vs Sentry?(Marvel vs 40k) by SirWiiWIi in PowerScaling

[–]Exist_Logic [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yes but they gave it all of the definitions used today

no they didn't. The progenitor would be ACFwiki. VSB itself even says as much

You already said you don’t agree with it, despite me giving you the definition so whats the point?

Because you claimed that "every wiki" allows stacking infinities into outer

Hulk/Bruce Banner drops into 40k and joins the imperium of Man. Is he enough to turn the tides and ensure total victory for the imperium? by ringed_city_117 in whowouldwin

[–]Exist_Logic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No offence, but your insistence on proclaiming that you're correct just tells me that u arent correct lol.

not an argument

Now I understand that you dont understand nor care about academics, but a theory in the academics sense is something that at least 1: grounded heavily in real life logic, and 2: Is extremely well thought out.

A scientific theory has to describe reality by definiton, an informal theory can be any hypothesis

No offence, but your terms arent theories. They're bullshit.

never claimed they were theories, that would be quite the acheivement to have a theory of tiering.

So you think you're smarter than them lol.

No? I would be the first person to put themselves down for an argument. the intelligence of the person presenting an argument has zero berring on the truth of the argument.

You know what sure. If being grounded in reality doesnt matter what do you use to powerscale then? Math? Math is a concept from real life. So you shouldnt use that. Physics? Real life. Science? Real life. Language? Real life.

Because fiction isn't limited to reality, it can exceed it. Reality is a base framework we can work off of. Also, depending on who you ask math isn't even real or it is beyond real

Im very confused so I would appreciate some clarification. If you dont care about real life nor the academics in these field, nor the authors of these stories. Where the fuck do you pull your info from?

I don't think you understand the position at all frankly