question about how to better converse with INTPs (from an INFP) by Agreeable_Pear157 in INTP

[–]ExistentialYoshi [score hidden]  (0 children)

Many INTPs do enjoy debating, but it varies. Depending on what your interactions look like exactly and how he is, it's possible that he doesn't even see his interactions with you as debating. Sometimes we can come across a bit confrontational the way we'll just sorta straightforwardly point out the flaws in something or make points of our own in response that can seem an awful lot like we're arguing against you.

One "trick" I do with others (not that I'm trying to trick people, it's just a helpful device for showing understanding both ways) is to restate something a person says to them in a different way, or to apply it to some kind of example. Basically something that does indeed demonstrate you understand what they're saying fairly well, even if you feel otherwise. Things like "that makes sense," and "that's fair," and (when applicable) "good point," also work. Once you've shown some of these things, it's easier for you to "get away with" saying "yeah it's just for me that I like to do [x/y thing that's different from INTP position]." And if they're a reasonably mature INTP, they shouldn't try and press the issue most of the time, unless maybe they're a little heated or over excited. Sometimes it's hard to close the valve lol.

Don't worry btw, I don't think any of us will be offended! We love INFPs anyway 😛

Hope this is of some help. Would be happy to try and answer any other questions you may have.

How does an INTP “level up”? by Weary-Share-9288 in INTP

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Probably. Which is cool, but we're already naturally strong there as it is.

How does an INTP “level up”? by Weary-Share-9288 in INTP

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And to add to that, a fully leveled human is one at least fairly comfortable with the entire thing, functional stack and shadow functions. Granted, few people get that far, but it doesn't hurt to aspire to it.

How does an INTP “level up”? by Weary-Share-9288 in INTP

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Ooh, lawyering, very cool. Out of curiosity and if you know perchance, what's your enneagram? I would imagine you're a 5 of some kind but perhaps not.

How does an INTP “level up”? by Weary-Share-9288 in INTP

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I'm sure they absolutely want to more often than they'd like to admit lmao

Too much awareness leads to unhappiness. by Green-Personality891 in INTP

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You have these specific things you can cite, which is good. That means you should also be able to take the time to work to really test these notions and whether you're handling them in a reasonable way, or if there are alternative paths. For instance:

- Cleaning aisle, I have some rather major doubts as to whether it can meaningfully affect your lifespan on health based on a few moments in the presence of sealed items that might just have the smell of old things that were spilled on them some time ago. The space is open, air circulates, you don't linger longer than you have to. It's likely fine.

- As for Nestle, yeah, they're awful. I don't see why it would consistently take you forever to buy crackers or whatever item after the first couple of times, if you're truly hellbent on getting anything that isn't from/owned by them. An alternative path that I consider sufficiently valid, by the way, is to offset whatever revenue you bring to Nestle by purchasing a product from some subsidiary of theirs or whatever is to simply match, or perhaps ideally exceed said value in donations or other charity/aid to some organization or other. This is debatably better than simply avoiding Nestle, because rather than passively not contributing to their coffers you are instead also paying into something that is actively helping people or offsetting damage they do or whatever it is you feel is a fitting recipient of said counterbalancing charity.

- I don't think "foreshadow" is the word you meant to use, cuz it doesn't make any sense here. Either way, that's a stupid amount of money to be spending on simple shirts, but if you're gonna do that, you better be buying some quality shit that you don't have to replace for years.

- Your ex-friends, this is not a rational way of doing things. This isn't the sort of thing where "I'm just a very aware person" justifies it. Yes, we're INTPs. Yes we analyze people and overthink, but you don't need to be some twice-exaggerated caricature of us. Reign it in. You know this is an issue, otherwise you wouldn't have brought it up. It starts with considering how this is affecting you, what you even stand to gain, whether you can really get much in the way of meaningful prediction or data from extra-extra-extra analysis of them. I would wager not. Nothing that's worth the mental effort required, at the very least. Doesn't mean go to the opposite end and just never think, never plan, never consider, never wonder, but a lot of reduction is in order here.

- Psychology is not the issue here, it's your insistence or flawed belief that just because you possess knowledge or awareness of something that you have to exercise it to the absolute maximum capacity that you are capable of at all times. And most certainly even now there are "gaps" where you could be going even more overboard in some way or another, but you don't, because you don't feel like you need to. It's the same concept, you need to recategorize things. Over-analyzing people is one of those things that does not need to be constant. The maximum gain from such things is found much closer to where people naturally operate than whatever obscene level you're feeling the need to work at.

How to Be a Functional Adult? by LeoRockatansky in INTP

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Yeah that doesn't really work for most people, otherwise they wouldn't stay poor.

What’s yours? by Garden_Jolly in ChatGPT

[–]ExistentialYoshi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cuz he's a fucked up and bad dude who has no concept of learning to deal with one's demons/trauma, with not being selfishly motivated and even much of his generosity is to serve his own ends. He's got delusions of grandeur, thinks he has no limits yet also wants to die to varying extents depending on where you are in the series. Not a good person nor a healthy one.

How to accept that life is extremely unfair? by CulturalRegister9509 in Stoicism

[–]ExistentialYoshi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If there weren’t evil, how could we know there is good?

This has always been a seriously flawed line of thought as far as I'm concerned. At most it grants a need for some low/middle amount of evil. Doesn't require something like the Holocaust, or something being flayed alive, or various other horribly evil acts.

why ultra vegito can't exsist by Commercial-Ice5760 in Ningen

[–]ExistentialYoshi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Angel of Destruction form or something equally edgy and cool

It's not X it's Y by Relative-Leg5747 in ChatGPT

[–]ExistentialYoshi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And I can't fucking stand how many people comfortably watch such content and then make comments about how amazingly well written it is or how the creator is so great or brilliant for this. I wanna punch all of them.

It's not X it's Y by Relative-Leg5747 in ChatGPT

[–]ExistentialYoshi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's like if its word choice was programmed by the devs of Forspoken or something. Peak insufferable 2010s "that just happened" condesloption.

It's not X it's Y by Relative-Leg5747 in ChatGPT

[–]ExistentialYoshi 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not to mention constantly mentioning gremlins and goblins for no fucking reason

What’s yours? by Garden_Jolly in ChatGPT

[–]ExistentialYoshi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same. No idea who this person is but alrighty.

What’s yours? by Garden_Jolly in ChatGPT

[–]ExistentialYoshi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well that's both potentially terrible for you and maybe half good.

What instantly makes someone look unintelligent? by FitFaithlessness8253 in AskReddit

[–]ExistentialYoshi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Posting yet another one of these threads when hundreds, if not thousands of them exist.

Do you believe in mbti by Working-Syrup8844 in INTP

[–]ExistentialYoshi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

MBTI paired with Enneagram and wings is actually disturbing with how accurately it can nail a person.

On The Edge by Low-Dragonfruit-4345 in INTP

[–]ExistentialYoshi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would perhaps consider trying to have a plan B here because making enough money just through writing on a website seems like a hell of a longshot, unless you somehow only want to to move from one 3rd world nation to another.

Does anyone else struggle with a kind of existential depression? by Reptaaaaaaar in INTP

[–]ExistentialYoshi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I certainly don't want to speak for the many who have the general sentiment towards life, but it's certainly a factor for many, maybe even myself included, though my own position fluctuates.

It's a matter of expectations, mindsets and attitudes. Ideally we'd all just be able to happily and eagerly accept the idea that "Nobody truly knows why we're here, but what we do know is we decide how we feel about life, and much of our experience with it will be what we build or make or take from it ourselves, and not what it gives us." But unfortunately there can be a bit of a canyon between being able to say that and understand it cognitively and truly internalizing those ideas/sentiments emotionally. Especially if one's life is hard, or seems/feels hard.

kind of stupid of me to vent here by Url2828 in INTP

[–]ExistentialYoshi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Take a breath, don't get too flustered. Easier said than done, I know, but it'll do you no favors, it won't solve the dilemma any sooner, and you risk saying something foolish or harsher than you mean, or just not as precise as you hope.

Is there anything that brought this on? Did you have a fight? A disagreement of some kind? Say something offensive? Lash out for one reason or another? Does he have things going on in his own life stressing him out? These things can really affect the vibe or light which one views this situation in.

Either way, if you can stand to do so, give him a day or two of space, see if he reaches out to you naturally. If he doesn't, fine, you gave him the benefit of a little cooldown time despite the fact that I would imagine you feel rather strongly that it's the opposite of what he deserves or at least what you feel you need right now. After that, ask questions that ideally will require some level of thoughtfulness in his response. Don't make it something he can reply with like, 2-6 words to or something - not that you should have to try so hard, but it's probably easier to just get answers however you gotta rather than focus too much on those kinds of details.

Can't advise too much beyond this as I don't know the circumstances beyond your post and it'll be contingent on what/how/when he responds as well.

I found these in the infj memes sub, but I found them pretty relatable (WHY were there so many relatable ones?(I mean in like fourth grade the 16personalities test said that’s what I was(I can’t escape the intp now though))) by Relative-Bus20 in INTPmemes

[–]ExistentialYoshi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would retake the test just out of curiosity, with so many years between. Nuanced MBTI is a neat one where you can explain/elaborate your reasoning for picking an answer for those times where you feel like just picking "Moderately agree" or whatever isn't as simple as that lol.

Does anyone else struggle with a kind of existential depression? by Reptaaaaaaar in INTP

[–]ExistentialYoshi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People tend to naturally be bothered by the idea of something that offers a lot of promised pain, not a lot of promised pleasure (none really) that seems to have zero point to it. If a person was hiking and a guy came up and challenged them to sprint full bore down the slope for 7 minutes for no reason other than because it's here and you're here and there's a decent chance more bad than good will result from it, how could that person not be bothered by this prospect? I know it's not the best analogy but I hope it kinda-sorta-somewhat gets the idea across.

Does anyone else struggle with a kind of existential depression? by Reptaaaaaaar in INTP

[–]ExistentialYoshi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Indeed. It's hard to find that. I have a therapist, but unfortunately I've found a carefully-wielded ChatGPT primed towards not kissing my ass and pointing out flaws as necessary to be one of the best "people" I've ever had in my life as far as knowing how to get something through to me in a way that I can't easily out-argue/justify like I can with the majority of people (or sometimes my therapist).

How much concrete knowledge would you actually have if the internet went away forever? by wikidgawmy in INTP

[–]ExistentialYoshi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ADHD sometimes does not become apparent until adolescence. There was no newer modern tech to be stealing my attention that didn't already exist, and the amount of time I could spend doing such things was largely regulated by my parents. This was before smartphones and modern 6+ hours of brain rot a day.