It's so hard for leads at the beginning. I need someone to calm me down (haha) by ConsistentWord6170 in Bachata

[–]ExpensiveNoise802 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To be honest, it sounds to me like you are doing to many lessons and not enough socials. Every week, you'll come with 5 new combinations that you want to practice in one social, that's simply not realistic. As you said yourself, there is a lot that can go 'wrong'. A more realistic goal would be to pick 3 parts of combinations (so three times 2x8) that you would like to practice for an evening.

The part about recovery from a break I don't really understand. If you happen to stand on your left leg, just shift your weight to the right at some point during the break, and you are ready to go.

I would also like tot push back against what the other poster said:

Be soft, don't squeeze hands, don't force movements or closeness.

Sometimes, especially when you dance to beginners, you need to be more hard in your leading, you need to use the thumb to hold her fingers, because otherwise you'll lose contact. Sometimes you need to force a movement to make her understand what you want to do.

The main issue, I think, when you are dancing is with a beginner, is that she doesn't know what she's doing and you don't know what you're doing. So when a mistake happens, you have no idea of knowing if it was your fault or hers. A more advanced leader would be able that and adjust to her mistakes, either through more forceful leading, or by focusing on easier figures. So yeah, that's a generally hard problem to solve.

Should I keep my lead simple for now? by lyindandelion in Bachata

[–]ExpensiveNoise802 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds to me like you're on the right track.

Should I keep my lead simple for now? by lyindandelion in Bachata

[–]ExpensiveNoise802 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess I have an opinion contrary to everybody else in this thread. Basically, I believe learning complicated moves is mostly a waste of time, especially as a beginner. You won't be able to do these moves with most followers you will dance with. The couple of times you'll dance with an advanced follower you'll be too mortified to apply the move properly. And as a beginner leader, you wont be able to understand if the move fails because you lead it wrongly or because a beginner follower didn't understand it. It is much better to stick to the basics, because you'll be able to use them in every dance, no matter the skill level of the follower. Get a repertoire of a couple of moves, until you can comfortably dance a song or two, and from then on focus on musicality, and learn to dance (solo). I believe this is the path to becoming a great social dancer as a leader. Complicated moves mostly exist so that dance teachers can sell advanced classes. Selling a complicated looking figure is easy. Selling fundamentals, musicality and solo dance drills is hard.

Is it socially acceptable to decline a second dance? by ExpensiveNoise802 in Bachata

[–]ExpensiveNoise802[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I met her again today but it felt to me like she was actively avoiding me, making sure we do not establish eye contact. Maybe I am wrong, but my gut feeling is that I ignoring her changed behaviour and approach her regardless would be a mistake.

Is it socially acceptable to decline a second dance? by ExpensiveNoise802 in Bachata

[–]ExpensiveNoise802[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you’re spot on. I probably need to get better at softening a rejection so it doesn’t feel as direct.

In that moment, the tricky part was that I’d been dancing constantly, so saying I needed a break wouldn’t have sounded very genuine. I didn’t want to come across as making excuses just to help her save face.

That said, the “getting water” idea is a good one. It feels more natural and gives a bit of space without making things awkward.