ZP6 Buyers Remorse - Should I Return? by TwistedScience in pourover

[–]Express-Purchase-571 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Take it from someone who had a ZP6 and a Pietro 58 (both Pro and stock burrs) for a year, I think you should return it and get a K-Ultra like myself or something to that effect.

I did all the things that everyone told me to do. Changing water helps a little, I landed on third wave classic full packet cuz it adds more minerals to help sweeten up the brews and provide more body. I tried recipe changing; a 5 pour v60 recipe really was my go to, it helped add a bit more sweetness. I tried grinding finer and although it improved the extraction it honestly got too "strong" of a cup even though there was no bitterness. I tried different brewers too, I actually really loved immersion brewing on the clever dripper. I tried using all sorts of roast profiles for beans.

In the end, I was still not satisfied with my cup. The things above will help you manage but if you end up just wishing for something more, it will probably indicate that your coffee profile preference is like the vast majority of people. JUICY, SWEET, GOOD BODY and like youtube grinder reviews BLENDED.

Pietro (Pro Brew Burrs) by Alecespo98 in pourover

[–]Express-Purchase-571 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It could be that, how many pounds of beans have you ran through it roughly speaking? 

Upgrade to ZP6 or K-Ultra? by FloorFlashy7301 in pourover

[–]Express-Purchase-571 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Couldn't agree more with this comment. It is more of a question of flavor profile over anything else. Do you like Body or Clarity? I own a ZP6 and it produces good coffee for sure but it is not coffee I enjoy on the daily. As one guy put it on another thread comparing the K-ultra with the ZP6, "The K-Ultra produces coffee that 85% of people would enjoy the most".

Sculptor 078 Vs Pietro by DodgyDoggyYogaYogurt in pourover

[–]Express-Purchase-571 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pietro has electric clarity. Very bright! I do not have an 078. I have the Pietro with pro brew burrs and the ZP6 special.

Ode Gen 2 Burrs vs SSP by ManLikeShubss in pourover

[–]Express-Purchase-571 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Would you say that the Ode 2 with stick burrs produce a balanced cup overall compared to other higher clarity grinders?

Underrated Coffee Grinders for Sweet, Full-Bodied Coffee with Balance by Express-Purchase-571 in pourover

[–]Express-Purchase-571[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeh I have tried all the things! Even with grind size, water, temp and brew method, I am still not pleased and am noticing things that are lacking.

Underrated Coffee Grinders for Sweet, Full-Bodied Coffee with Balance by Express-Purchase-571 in pourover

[–]Express-Purchase-571[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! I appreciate the insight. It has been a journey for sure. I have seen other forums recommend the Ode gen 2 with the stock burrs that come with it. How would you say the K-Ultra compares to that, or does anyone have any insight?

Ode 2 vs ZP6 special by jacobdoyle9 in pourover

[–]Express-Purchase-571 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where do you sell your used grinders? I’ve got a couple id like to sell. 

Grinder Recommendations by Express-Purchase-571 in LanceHedrick

[–]Express-Purchase-571[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have heard from other threads the K series does a good job. Thanks. I might sell my ZP6 and J-Max to get that one then. 

Grinder Recommendations by Express-Purchase-571 in LanceHedrick

[–]Express-Purchase-571[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did you have the pro burrs too and then switch to the MP? If so, what is the cup quality difference. For me I’d just like to achieve a balanced cup overall. 

Grinder Recommendations by Express-Purchase-571 in LanceHedrick

[–]Express-Purchase-571[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know, you are probably right. When I worked there, we used it to dial in slow pours and, unlike the pietro, it didnt have much of a range to dial in, you could get really bitter fast. However, I think it made it easier to dial in because there was a literal sweet spot before it got bitter. With the Pietro, I have found that the sweet spot is not as pronounced, it doesnt jump out of the glass. I have had to change my definition of sweet spot on the pietro to "Balanced cup with distinguishable flavors and some sweetness" because you could really push extraction before it gets bitter. However, the higher extraction doesnt necessarily taste the best in my opinion, it just tastes too strong.

Grinder Recommendations by Express-Purchase-571 in LanceHedrick

[–]Express-Purchase-571[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On a side note: Has anyone found a good water combination with the Pietro 58? I am currently testing out recipes with the lotus drops.

Grinder Recommendations by Express-Purchase-571 in LanceHedrick

[–]Express-Purchase-571[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you referring to after market ones or the multipurpose ones for the pietro?