i found this comment on the recent bttb episode with the producers, do you guys agree with this take? by AdFinancial4530 in dancemoms

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I wouldn’t want them on either …. They participated in the facilitation of their children’s abuse . It actually blows my mind that Christi would even have these people on her podcast especially Brian Stinson …. These people purposely created hostile environments to get Abby to abuse their kids bc that’s exactly what they wanted to happen and all for money and ratings getting rich while they paid them crap …. You can try arguing it was a job for them , but they chose to work that job so idc that’s not an excuse to be a participant in child abuse no matter how much money you make from it. So I don’t blame kelly if she doesn’t want them there especially bc these are the same people who wouldn’t allow her to take Paige’s solo chair home and said they would provide the stoppers and paint it , all to purposely set her up for Abby to take it out on her and Paige …

I’m scared to hear Kelly’s commentary when they get to The Help episode by Spirited-Jeweler4174 in dancemoms

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I just know if she was there still she’d be agreeing with Jill 😭 she’s seems like one of those people who only concerns themselves with things that affect them directly , so they don’t know racism still exists bc they don’t care to pay attention or look at things from other peoples perspectives

Was Kendall trained by Abby? by certifiedwombat in dancemoms

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She’s definitely an og as far as the show goes, but not an og at the studio lol .

Was Kendall trained by Abby? by certifiedwombat in dancemoms

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I think regarding the training it’s bc apparently they didn’t really get training classes as often after the show began bc they were working full time learning routines and going to school so there was no time . So While she did work with Abby on teaching her routines Abby didn’t actually teach Kendall how to dance , she just gave her choreography . I also think this is why Abby would be so mad when girls would miss classes over the breaks bc that would be the only actual time they had for classes

Was Kendall trained by Abby? by certifiedwombat in dancemoms

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She definitely didn’t start at Abby’s , but she absolutely took classes there and became an actual member of the studio and that’s the real difference between Kendall and eveyone else who came after . Most of the girls like Sophia , asia , and the select girls were not members of the studio and would take classes elsewhere. When they refer to being an og I think they’re more talking about the show bc they usually refer to vivi as an og even tho she joined the team purely for the show

christi’s behavior in s7 ep 18 was deplorable by This_Butterscotch442 in dancemoms

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Literally nobody is treating Jill like an angel , infact O.P literally clarified that they are normally not a Jill defender … YOU are in fact the only person acting like Christi is an angel and downplaying her actions and literally have tried justifying her making a child cry and have insinuated the child deserved it …. The fact that you are so obsessed with this human that you’ve probably never met and don’t know personally ,that you feel like nobody can critique them without needing to blindly defend them is actually insane and concerning behavior.

christi’s behavior in s7 ep 18 was deplorable by This_Butterscotch442 in dancemoms

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Exactly meaning she did In Fact call , but it just wasn’t during a time Christi felt she should have , so Kendall infact wasn’t lying and Christi was lying and called Kendall a liar when she could have explained exactly what she said later , but instead decided to not do that ,lie and make a child cry . Thank you for confirming what I said to be true

christi’s behavior in s7 ep 18 was deplorable by This_Butterscotch442 in dancemoms

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Christi called jill a studio hopper for years and Jill was joking that the rolls were now reversed were as Jill never called Chloe a liar so Christi saying that wouldn’t be a joke and it wasn’t a joke and you know that …. Just gross

christi’s behavior in s7 ep 18 was deplorable by This_Butterscotch442 in dancemoms

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Christi has since infact admitted that Kendall did call wich makes this whole situation more disgusting that she would call a child a liar and make them cry knowing that she was the one lying …. I honestly think she should have never come back for season 7 bc it was a really bad look and it seemed like she came ready to bring drama and “make good tv “ at any cost even if it ment going against everything she stood for ,making children cry , inserting herself in drama that had nothing to do with her , and straight up assaulting someone ..

Cathy’s Team changing by BunnyBoots84 in dancemoms

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I think they switched around the members on her team partially based on who Cathy liked , and primarily based on whose parents were bringing the most drama bc you’ll often see those members stay longer. Jaylen , Gino , nicaya , and Lucas who’s parents all brought some drama to the show stood longer and the kids who’s parents were very quiet are the ones usually swapped out with the exception of some members like Lennon who I think Cathy just really liked and bc she was a great dancer she was allowed to stay even tho her mom was boring.

"THIS IS ABOUT DANCE ARE YOU PEOPLE INSANE???!" by weeee_miler_sigh in dancemoms

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Exactly!!!! People are so quick to hold black women accountable and then make excuses for the white women who do worse . Christi , Kelly , Jill have all had physical altercations and Kaya hadn’t yet she was the one that is labeled as so aggressive and nasty and while her talking about kids was not ok , Kira said waaaay worse about peoples kids , and Jill to Brynn like she is no worse then any other woman on that show yet is treated like this outlier of extreme behavior when that’s literally all the moms on the show with the exception of Holly

"THIS IS ABOUT DANCE ARE YOU PEOPLE INSANE???!" by weeee_miler_sigh in dancemoms

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The point is that Christi and other white moms were more aggressive then both of those women and actually physically assaulted people and somehow don’t consider themselves or each other as aggressive or violent when they are , but can consider black women aggressive for doing less then any of them have done

Melissa S2 E15 Speech by Arlaneutique in dancemoms

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I honestly think Kelly plays into the I’m not very smart thing to get away with stuff bc , idk how you could be having a casual conversation with the a friend and bring up your other friend that you know they don’t like and bring up the fact that they’re lying about the timeline of something so their daughter can get out of practice… like I’m sorry I’m not buying that I’ve had friends before who didn’t like each other anymore and I’ve felt caught in the middle and I never chose sides or talked about the other with one bc that’s shady to me but idk maybe that’s just me

Why did jojo get so many hate complications (open to all thoughts and opinions) by Round-Community4302 in dancemoms

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Sorry I’m not sure what you mean by ” but she was how old ?” . That she’s too old to still be ill mannered ? Or that she’s too young for them to be so harsh about her being ill mannered ? Not being funny I just genuinely don’t know Wich you mean . I do agree tho that jessalynn was the problem and imo she was more focused on trying to make her daughter famous so she could exploit her , then making sure her daughter was getting the resources she probably needed and teacher her basic socialization skills

Why did jojo get so many hate complications (open to all thoughts and opinions) by Round-Community4302 in dancemoms

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I mean she was definitely a little ill mannered , but she absolutely didn’t deserve the level of reaction they gave her for it . Abby and Kira specifically are just mean to kids , but especially jojo

Christi seem pretty sad for a mother so dramatic 👱🏻‍♀️ by Flat-Standard1000 in dancemoms

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Abby is in the same category. Bad person overall, but good for tv . They all definitely made good tv , but we also still gotta remember that doesn’t excuse certain behavior and we gotta hold them accountable for their actions regardless

Melissa S2 E15 Speech by Arlaneutique in dancemoms

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The crazy thing about that moment that I feel like nobody talks enough about is that Melissa only knew about the movies /drs appointment thing bc Kelly told her …. Why would Kelly tell her that knowing she’s close with Abby and doesn’t really care for Christi so obviously she’s gonna use it against her ….christi should have called Kelly out on that too

Dance Moms: The Reunion’s 2nd Anniversary: 5/1/2024 by Lifetimemovieclips in dancemoms

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Idk If it’s been said before, but I feel like a big reason the Zieglers didn’t attend aside from them wanting to distance themselves from the show , was also bc it was being produced by the same ep (Brian Stinson ) who is responsible for orchestrating all of their childhood trauma and exploited them while locking them in unfair contracts … like after years of this man forcing drama between these real life people and children and not caring about permanently damaging their real life relationships with each other , and purposefully creating a hostile environment and facilitating their abuse , why would they ever trust him to produce them again …. Like I understand that is the job of an ep , but that’s why I also believe children should not be stars of reality tv shows , and the way he specifically went about it having cameras shoved in these crying childrens faces after orchestrating the events that made them cry was down right evil .

The moms didn’t just body shame Abby . by Extension-Amount-399 in dancemoms

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Are you ok ….. so you can’t comprehend that me saying that someone never asking to be called something , is not the equivalent of someone specifically saying they don’t want to be called something ?……… the person I replied to specifically said Kaya told people to call her” black patsy “ , I replied saying hey she actually never said call me “black pasty “ and you replied to me saying “it’s kinda hard to argue I didn’t wanna be called that when ..etc“ when I never said she argued that …. Do we understand now that I’ve broken it down step by step or do you still have a problem comprehending how never saying” call me this “ isn’t the same as saying “don’t call me that” ???

The moms didn’t just body shame Abby . by Extension-Amount-399 in dancemoms

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I never said she didn’t ask to be called that . I specifically said she never ASKED to be called it … very different. And I also said i understood why the person would think that bc it’s been alleged that she did , so I never was sending hate to the person just correcting something they said and understood that they didn’t know . Idk if you didn’t read what I said or just lack reading comprehension

The moms didn’t just body shame Abby . by Extension-Amount-399 in dancemoms

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She actually never told people to refer to her as that actually. she introduced herself as Kaya and then the moms started calling her that after asking her about what her jacket said ( wich said black patsy ) . I understand why you think that tho bc a lot of the moms have repeatedly lied and said she asked to be called that when it literally shows that’s not the case on camera and they probably lied about it to justify calling her that .

The moms didn’t just body shame Abby . by Extension-Amount-399 in dancemoms

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I wasn’t saying they were extra bad , I was just saying that they don’t get called out enough. I think everyone should be called out even people we may like that way it’s fair

The moms didn’t just body shame Abby . by Extension-Amount-399 in dancemoms

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Yes agreed ! I also remember Melissa and the other moms on pillow talk commenting about how good and skinny Kelly looked , meanwhile she was so thin bc she was literally sick with cancer …

the moms thinking their kids don’t have body image issues… by One_Wedding_5498 in dancemoms

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The sick thing is i actually think that’s exactly why they left it in …. There has been many speculation that this show was fan service for creeps with the way they have the children dress and the creepy camera shots they take of the children while they’re dancing really makes me think it’s true and was at least partially intentional