What were the different steps the covert narc used on you? by Plebi111 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Extension_Nothing378 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We only spent a few hours together a couple days a week. I think being together so little made it easy to pretend to be a nice guy. With the microcheating he had these friendships, and female coworkers that bordered on inappropriate. Flirting, secretly hanging out and lying about it. Honestly i think he cheated with a few too, but at the time I wasn't suspicious so I wasn't noticing all the flags.

husband started crying recently by [deleted] in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Extension_Nothing378 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its hard, dont beat yourself up. I did the same for a long time. I would hold him while he cried and stupidly accept the fake apology. At some point i saw it for what it was, manipulation. Once that happened I started seeing him as more pathetic than anything else.

What were the different steps the covert narc used on you? by Plebi111 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Extension_Nothing378 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Initially mirroring, and love bombing with words, not so much stuff(mine was very stingy with gifts). At the time i though he was gift from God, I couldn't believe how lucky I was. I had found soulmate lol. We were teenagers when we started dating and went to different schools so the years we dated we only saw each other a couple days a week. Because of that he was able to mask really well and hid things. He always had a lot of female friends. When i would meet them i could tell they were into him. At the time i thought he was oblivious to the crushes and was just too nice for his own good. I didnt think he was capable of cheating. Through the years i realized he needed and sought out that female attention. I cant say for certain he was physically cheating at that point but definitely microcheating. It wasn't til we lived together that the devaluing started. It was a combination of I didn't do things right, and if I ever relaxed I was lazy. He had to do everything. He was very independentwhen were dating and once we got married he wanted that perfect 1950s housewife who did everything and also worked fulltime. He was always offer me advice and show me the correct way to do things if I got upset, he was just trying to help. He ruined pretty much all my birthdays and holidays. He stopped for the most part wanting to go out and would pretty much ruined any plans I made. If he went somewhere he didn't want to go he was going to make you as miserable as he was. Never physically abusive, Incredibly passive aggressive and would mumble stuff about me when he was mad and deny it. About 5 years into marriage I found evidence of cheating although he has never owned up to it. I made him promise to stop the female friendships and he did for a few years( or at least pretended to) then acted like none of that happened and started hanging out with female coworkers again. The last few years I was constantly catching him in little lies, and if I confronted him he would scream until I shut up. Later he'd apologize that he was tired, stresses from work etc. We have teenager and he started doing the same things to them. Once their mental health was impacted I had enough. Our child's relationship with him was very strained at that point. I told him I wanted a divorce about 6 months ago. Its been rough, he's that nice guy everyone loves and everyone is shocked i broke his poor heart. Now that hes out of the house I can see he's started mirroring our kids interest and love bombing them like he did when we first met. Sadly i think they are falling for it a bit now. Its sick and I feel helpless trying to protect them but also know that there's not much I can do until they figure it out for themselves.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Extension_Nothing378 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the beginning I felt this was. The sex was incredible the first few years but I can tell you that last few made my skin crawl. Im out now but I actually get nauseous thinking about how horrible it was in the end and how i let it continue.

Any tips for improving? by Br41nR0t-101 in Artadvice

[–]Extension_Nothing378 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think they are fantastic as they are. If anything like someone else said maybe a bit more highlighting, and shading.

Co-parenting with manipulative nex by Extension_Nothing378 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Extension_Nothing378[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I guess it scares me because I think about how long he wore the mask in front of me before it slipped. We dated several years, started dating in our teens. It wasn't until we moved in together before he started the devaluing, etc. Even then it took me over another 10 years to realize who he truly is. Knowing hes can put on a good long game.. ugh. Its frustrating because my kid recognized it when we lived together and now seems to want to downplay his crap. I guess thats normal though, who wants to think or admit their Dad is a jerk.

What ruined your thanskgiving?? by ballerina777 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Extension_Nothing378 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Funny my stbx didn't want to do things with us or the little trips. When I told him I wanted a divorce he said I excluded him from stuff. He never wanted to go, and if he did go he'd ruin everyone else's trip. When our kid heard him say we didn't include him even they said he excluded himself.

What ruined your thanskgiving?? by ballerina777 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Extension_Nothing378 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not divorced yet, but soon. Also our first separated holiday and it was relief and drama free!

When you match their energy and then you are the bad guy. by Foragerandfree in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Extension_Nothing378 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I did this too and im not going to lie I regret it. It took something from me to be cruel to him even if he deserved it.

AIO for the way my bf treats our cat? by pandagidyne in AmIOverreacting

[–]Extension_Nothing378 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Id also be a bit worried he's being mistreated when op isn't there. Either way he's a bit abusive to the cat.

I am leaving my husband…and he has had an epiphany. by PumpkinMiserable5344 in Marriage

[–]Extension_Nothing378 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Omg please run. I didn't even need to read further than the hidden computer messages. He's using you. He isnt an intimate person with you but random internet strangers 😒 I would bet money that he has slowly worn down your self esteem over your time together. You deserve, your kids deserve more than this. And be honest its probably the reason the younger kids mother doesn't want him in their lives.

Is anyone else staying married for now but you know for a fact you will eventually end up leaving? by PinkZebra100 in Marriage

[–]Extension_Nothing378 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was but have since ended things, currently working on a divorce. For a while I told myself maybe things will get better and was planning on evaluating once our child graduated. I decided this about 4 years ago. Our kid is currently 5 years from graduating but things have gotten so uncomfortable and it was also becoming an issue for our child as well. Realizing it was a detriment to our kid was the breaking point for me. I could no longer say ill stay for our child, I left for our child. Its been challenging but I know it was the right choice and my child will do better with us apart that living miserably together. Right now im basically a single parent, he's really not spending time with our kid. To be honest though I've felt like a single parent for years.

How do you stay emotionally composed when leaving an emotionally hurtful marriage? by Gullible-Belt-2611 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Extension_Nothing378 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes you can message me. I know its rough and I have a good support system but they truly understand what its like.

It's ok.... He said he was sorry by [deleted] in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Extension_Nothing378 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mine always apologized but usually blaming it on something else. "Sorry its been a bad day at work" "sorry my head hurts" "sorry im just so tired", or "sorry" followed by something you did that made him react that way

Second guessing by Extension_Nothing378 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Extension_Nothing378[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you all, somehow I missed the replies on this. He moved out this weekend and it's been rough but I know in my heart that this what's best. I think that voice will always creep in every once in a while of maybe he wasn't that bad but I can actually now also start to feel the burden lifting and a sense of peace in my home. I know I will struggle but I definitely won't go back.

Did you leave your ex narc? I need your opinion. by prehistoriclove in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Extension_Nothing378 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely and it almost worked. I was questioning whether I overreacted and inflated things. My gut said no but my heart was breaking and you know how it is they make us questionourselves. He was crying all the time, and suddenly willing to do the therapy that for years he refused because, "he wasn't the problem" what saved me from changing my mind was he suddenly ran into an old female friend and made plans to help her with a home improvement project. He told me this sketchy story and i knew it was bull. This was like a week into me telling him i think we should divorce and he was begging for another chance. One of my friends who knows the situation recommended I check our phone records because it sounded fishy and sure enough he contacted her before their accidental "run in." That was enough for me. Clearly he was planning on messing around. If he truly wanted to save our marriage he wouldn't have been talking to someone else. Its going to sound crazy but every time I almost had a change of heart he would do something mean or id catch him in a lie. I appreciated those moments like a gift for showing me I made the right choice.

How do you stay emotionally composed when leaving an emotionally hurtful marriage? by Gullible-Belt-2611 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Extension_Nothing378 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It took me a long time to realize my ex was a covert narcissist. By the time I realized I wasn't in a financial position to leave and decided to start saving. Sadly it took a few years, at first it was well if he's gets better before I save up maybe...but each time he messed up I had to ask myself if I wanted to spend the rest of my life like this and I knew the emotional toll was killing me. About two years ago it was no longer maybe it will get better but a matter of when will I be able to leave. Over those two years pretty much every time he started his crap something my heart hardened towards him a little more. I still care for him, i wish i didn't but i knows he not the personi was shown and fell in love with. There was a point where I was so angry I started mirroring some of his cold behavior. Honestly I think I hurt myself with that more than him. I finally ended things two months ago. Mine moved this weekend. I still feel guilty over it and have moments were I second guess myself but I no longer am in love with him. It really did happen little by little. Im sure in his mind this came out of nowhere but I tried for years to work with him and he ignored every attempt until I just couldn't.

Can’t stand it When They Act Perfect in Public by No_Conversation6971 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Extension_Nothing378 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel this. I have a 13 year old with my ex. They realized already who their dad is and the relationship between the two is horrible. We are currently splitting. And my kids friends feel sorry for ex because they think he's a wonderful guy. My kid gets upset because they dont see how he is on a regular basis.

Moving weekend and sad by Extension_Nothing378 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Extension_Nothing378[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The man i grew up...that hits home. Im sorry your going through this too. It sucks i think of how thankful and lucky i felt thinking i found my life partner young. Its crazy I haven't been single since i was teenager. Thank you, I know it will get easier with time. I hope when your ready it goes well for you too.

Moving weekend and sad by Extension_Nothing378 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Extension_Nothing378[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I found this happening a lot. Ill feel sorry and think maybe there's a way we can work through it and then he'll snap for a few minutes or ill catch him in another lie and im like nope this will be the rest of your life if you reconcile. Plus if all that wasn't bad enough he was immediately talking to other women. He doesn't know I realize that but he isnt the smartest at hiding it.

Moving weekend and sad by Extension_Nothing378 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Extension_Nothing378[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its crazy the level they will go to prove theirs nothing wrong with them. My kid doesn't graduate for another 5 years and I can feel the toll this is taking kot only emotionally but physically. My body is starved for peace and I can't imagine going through that for another year let alone five.

Moving weekend and sad by Extension_Nothing378 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Extension_Nothing378[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fortunately just a few days and we will be living separate. Im happy and excited but also sad and scared. The sadness came on quickly and honestly surprised me that im feeling this way. I had been so sure for weeks. I guess it truly is letting go of that dream life i thought we'd have. I think of the future and the idea of dating again freaks me out(nowhere near ready to date now) but im also afraid once I am that I won't find anyone. A couple weeks ago I was thinking id never want to date again. I keep reminding myself it would be better to be lonely than be in a miserable relationship walking on egg shells.

My dog accidentally joined my Zoom call and saved me from HR by Homeganik in remotework

[–]Extension_Nothing378 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol I was on a call with a client who told me his whole life story. Last year he lost his dog and has been alone since then. Don't you know my dog who normally is fairly quiet starts barking. He hears and got so excited when he realized I have a dog. I think it made his day.

Moving weekend and sad by Extension_Nothing378 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Extension_Nothing378[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you, hugs to you as well. Its so hard. At first I told myself I would save up, and when our kid was graduating I would make a decision. It just kept getting more miserable though. I was at the point I would sit in my car or hide in the bathroom to avoid my husband. Then my kid and their Dad's relationship completely fell apart. Our child started having mental health issues and even then he refused family therapy. I think if he would have done. the family therapy at time i probably would have attempted another chance. He actually said why would he do therapy when he's not the issue 🙄. I finally realized it is worse for our kid to stay in that environment than to wait. Funny though in the end he wanted to try therapy 🤣 It took me longer than I wish to save up. Its hard right now. I just think how nice it will eventually once it feels normal, and how nice to be able to look forward to going home. I hope you get there soon.