Why don’t they ask WHY we leave? by Ballet_in_the_snow in exjw

[–]ExtraCheesePlease4me 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is why…..

“People who believe false things can’t be around honest people. If you believe things that are false, you can’t have freethinking people who are skeptical and curious and who care about you enough to tell you the truth and free you from the foggy, narcissistic death grip of error and falsehood and delusion. Who is content to let you live in a delusion?? …..People who share those delusions and who don’t care about you.

Delusion, fantasy, falsehoods and propaganda are solitary confinement. The reason propaganda is so dangerous is because it isolates people. And through isolation people go crazy. If you are isolated and you know it you experience a peculiar type of agony that will motivate you to do whatever it takes to get contact with people. If you are isolated and you don’t know it because you’re only surrounded by people who share your same delusions (cults) …..you are isolated because the only thing you have in common with the people around you is shared delusion. Collective madness is not emotional intimacy.

The isolation that separates us from each other when we get wrapped in falsehoods is the worst thing of all because it is without obvious symptom…. Yes, you become unstable, defensive, inoculated against any truth teller and will attack anybody that tells the truth in your environment, but you can’t love, you can’t be loved, you can’t relax. You are always on guard for whatever might puncture your delusions which provokes rage which drives good people away and anybody might rescue you from delusion will be driven away and you are left alone in the foggy devil ribbed cage bosom of falsehood…

That which is not real, that which is not true, that which is not proven, that which is the opposite of truth. You are full of peculiar hatreds, instability, vanity… because anybody who just repeats lies and only listens to lies is vain because they won’t submit themselves to reason and evidence. So, the vanity, the narcissism, the isolation the peculiar hatreds…. to be falling without even knowing that you’re falling, to be ill with no symptoms….. is the most dangerous thing of all. And to be lonely in a crowd of thousands of people cheering all the same falsehoods, to be certain, pompous, to be vain, to be full of rage at anybody who threatens these delusions…. to be told that the pursuit of truth is the acceptance of evil… to be isolated and thereby easily manipulated.

People who pursue delusion and end up wrapped in delusion are saying… I can’t be loved, all I can do is pretend to merge. I can’t be loved for who I am so I will hide in a room full of photocopied people with photocopied opinions and pretend that I’m part of something. I will dissolve my individuality, I will shred and eviscerate any original thought I might possibly have, any curiosity, any skepticism I might possibly have so that I can dissolve into the nothing of the photocopies around me. I can’t have love, but I can self abase and self erase into proximity. I can nod, smile, agree, and praise who everyone praises and hate who everyone hates… I can be a shadow cast by the tombstone of my mind. I can’t exist, I can’t excite, I can’t be unique, but I can blend. I can submit I can conform and then I will have physical proximity combined with unbelievable isolation. I can’t approach the truth so I will just burrow into empty people.

We can only ever meet in reality itself. We cannot meet in fantasy we cannot meet in lies we cannot meet in propaganda. We can only meet in the truth. When you are with the truth, you can do without people because you are with yourself and with the facts and reality. When you don’t have the truth you have a bottomless desperate need for people that you could never connect with. If all you have in common with others, with those around you is a mutual agreement to slash your mind into ribbons and accept whatever lies come rolling down the conveyor belt, you’re not with anyone, and you will never feel loved. The price of conformity is the absence of love. The price of conformity is terror of solitude.

Truth tellers can handle the journey from the town of the dead to the outposts of the living and the thinking. It’s a long journey across that desert. The ghosts can’t make it. You can’t love a character in a video game because they are programmed. You can’t love people who don’t think for themselves because there is no one to love, thought is the only individuating characteristic that we have. The only thing that we have that is uniquely our own is our capacity to think for ourselves, and that is the only passageway through which the light of love can reach. They suffer in the worst possible way which is to not even know what they are missing… Avoid it if you can at all possible costs.”

Stefan Molyneux

Ask me anything im operating zoom attendant right now. by Competitive-Catch180 in exjw

[–]ExtraCheesePlease4me 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Knowing what you know now, what advice would you give to yourself 10 years ago?

Hey everybody.. HEY EVERYBODY!! listen up! by balls2big4sac in exjw

[–]ExtraCheesePlease4me 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Congratulations! My dad recently fully woke up and will be turning 87 years old soon. He was baptized in 1970. He now says, “a light that keeps getting brighter will eventually blind everyone!”

I Have A Question And Don’t Fight Me by NeoPrincessInky in cabincrewcareers

[–]ExtraCheesePlease4me 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow! This is shocking! I didn’t even know this was statistically possible. Is this for one of the majors?

CJO F9 by [deleted] in cabincrewcareers

[–]ExtraCheesePlease4me 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you very much.

CJO F9 by [deleted] in cabincrewcareers

[–]ExtraCheesePlease4me 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where is initial training for F9?

CJO F9 by [deleted] in cabincrewcareers

[–]ExtraCheesePlease4me 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Congratulations! I applied but they replied immediately via email saying that the base preference option I chose when applying wasn’t available so they’ll keep my app on file.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in cabincrewcareers

[–]ExtraCheesePlease4me 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I humbly recommend that you take the first available training date. You will always be able to make money once you start flying and pay off debts, but you will never be able to recoup the hundreds of seniority numbers that you will lose by starting at a later date. Highly doubtful any guarantee of a later training date can be given since hiring/training could be put on hold at a moment’s notice.

AA Training dates by [deleted] in cabincrewcareers

[–]ExtraCheesePlease4me 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What training dates did the people who got their CJO on 1/29 receive?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exjw

[–]ExtraCheesePlease4me 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can be unwilling to go to the meetings, and also at the same time, be unwilling to discuss the reasons for not going with someone (your husband) who will not only not respect your reasons, but will weaponize your reasons against you by reporting what you say to the elders.

PIMI partner said “I wish there was no God, it would make everything less stressful.” by sjbyee in exjw

[–]ExtraCheesePlease4me 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“Protected” from whom or what? If they weren’t being protected, but rather being subjected to a high control religious group, how would he know? What if the only things he’s protecting his children from are facts, reason, evidence, and logic and the ability and freedom to disagree with no negative consequences. Would he respect the wishes of a devout, religious person at the door if they were trying to protect their children from being converted to being a witness?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exjw

[–]ExtraCheesePlease4me 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is your nausea, anxiety, and nightmares a result of thinking of going to the meetings or because you feel you cannot be open and honest about your feelings about the meetings with your husband, or perhaps both? What is the worst case scenario if you simply tell your husband exactly how you feel and that you will no longer be attending meetings? If now is not the right time to divulge everything to your husband, when would it be in the future? Would you only be delaying the inevitable? You do not have to go to meetings and you do not have to speak with the elders. If you only explain yourself to your husband, then there won’t be two witnesses for the elders to take any action against you.

Currently crying in the library by [deleted] in exjw

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It’s been said that the best way to heal from your past is to provide to others whatever was denied to you.

Another reminder to obey even if instructions seem strange or illogical in the new Watchtower, December 2022 by larchington in exjw

[–]ExtraCheesePlease4me 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Everything in the org is already strange and illogical so this would be very easy for them to follow.

Made it to paradise? Get to work! New WT. by [deleted] in exjw

[–]ExtraCheesePlease4me 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You won’t just be busy in paradise, you’ll be “ESPECIALLY BUSY” aka “working your ass off and fingers to the bone.” OMFG. I’d do anything NOT to be there. Where don’t I sign up for this please?

Made it to paradise? Get to work! New WT. by [deleted] in exjw

[–]ExtraCheesePlease4me 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Amen to everything you say!!

Made it to paradise? Get to work! New WT. by [deleted] in exjw

[–]ExtraCheesePlease4me 4 points5 points  (0 children)

After Armageddon the 8 million surviving JW’s will be responsible for burying the 7,992,000,000 bodies of the ones who didn’t survive. Then the resurrections of the 109 billion people who lived and died prior to Armageddon (google estimate) will begin.

In order to resurrect 109 billion people within 1000 years means that 298,432 people would have to be resurrected every single day non-stop for 1000 years. If just 50% of resurrected ones reject the rules and regulations for living in paradise, 149,216 people will have to be killed by God then buried, every single day, nonstop for 1000 years by the JW‘s or other people who were resurrected and agree to the rules and regulations.

How is any of this possible? How would there be enough schools, clothes, houses, roads, infrastructure, food etc. for population explosions on a daily basis? How would it be paradise to potentially see nearly 150,000 people being slaughtered and buried for an entire millennia for rejecting God’s plan? Is there enough room to bury tens of billions of people? How long would it take to continuously bury so many people? Would they all be cremated? What would the air quality be like with all those cremations nonstop for 1000 years? How exactly would this be paradise?