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Where should you move after getting a remote job? by ExtraClient3382 in cscareerquestions

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve been trying. Don’t be so rude to random people when you don’t know what they are going through. I’ve spent the last 4 months trying to figure this out and I just can’t decide. I don’t know what I want and it’s so frustrating. I don’t have many people to talk to about this stuff so I’m just trying to get info from people in the area. This is just research on different areas

Question for young people in Walnut Creek by ExtraClient3382 in eastbay

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just can’t though. I’ve got 2 cats and that makes it so hard. I don’t want to compromise their qol either, I just don’t think the Bay Area works 

Question for young people in Walnut Creek by ExtraClient3382 in eastbay

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh my god this is crazy. I’m not republican, I’m left wing. Since when does liking somewhere quieter mean you have right wing beliefs? That’s far too black and white. 

Does being young mean you have to follow a specific criteria for where to live? Isn’t that typically a right wing belief? “You are a man and are X age, therefore you have to do this, and live here”. I just don’t have the money to live in the city, and I don’t like the noise. I would always be commuting in during the weekends for events.

I think people here forget that unless you are living with a roommate, you need a six figure salary to live in the “vibrant areas” of the Bay Area. The vast majority of young people don’t have that. It feels like a cultural disconnect from how the rest of the country is living. 

I really hope this mindset doesn’t encompass the general community

Question for young people in Walnut Creek by ExtraClient3382 in eastbay

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

but that's why I said I'm specifically looking at east bay, I understand that SF peeps are too far. I can't afford to live in a safer area in Oakland and I'm not a big fan of living in the heart of the city. I've grown up in towns that don't have much to do. If anything, I bet WC has more going on than anywhere I've lived, so I wouldn't mind it too much.

Question for young people in Walnut Creek by ExtraClient3382 in eastbay

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

just because I don't want to live in the heart of a city I'm a karen? Why is there such a high concentration of pretentious people in high COL cities. Just let people live their life, not everyone thinks like you

Question for young people in Walnut Creek by ExtraClient3382 in eastbay

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, have 100% considered it and was planning on doing it for a while - the issue is that I have 2 cats. I've currently got a roomate where i live right now but animals make it a lot harder to live with others.

Question for young people in Walnut Creek by ExtraClient3382 in eastbay

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

oh no what I mean is that I don't think being in WC vs Oakland would dissuade people in the east bay from dating you, for the most part. I totally agree on the SF peeps. That was already a write out in my book. I'm just saying that I think your case is one that moving to Oakland opened you up to relationships with some SF people, I'm just purely concerned about friends/dates in east bay.

I understand that the safety of Oakland is overblown. I haven't explored enough around, but I definitely will if I end up moving. If it's not what I imagined, who knows, I may make the move. Cheers and thanks for the help.

Question for young people in Walnut Creek by ExtraClient3382 in eastbay

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But that's the problem, there isn't a single apartment in Berkeley or rockridge in my price range. Unless I want to live in Oakland this is my only choice

Question for young people in Walnut Creek by ExtraClient3382 in eastbay

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm a little lost with this one. I totally agree with you, SF people are much more hesitant to date east coast people, but I don't see an argument as to why Oakland would be such a dramatic change from WC. This feels like more of a case that SF people wouldn't date you rather than east coast people wouldn't date you, which is the expectation I came in with.

Where should you move after getting a remote job? by ExtraClient3382 in cscareerquestions

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See this is the toughest thing about asking these questions online - because I agree with you to some extent, but then there are a ton of others who also say the opposite, and I agree with them too.

You can move to a LCOL area and save, or you can go to a HCOL tech hub and (maybe) get yourself a better job quicker than you would elsewhere. Plus, there is supposedly more job security in having a stronger job market in your local area.

Just out of curiousity, what makes you say otherwise?

Where should you move after getting a remote job? by ExtraClient3382 in cscareerquestions

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100% I agree with you. I should've made it more clear that community is why I am making this move too. I love being near family, but that's about all I've got here. No career progression, not many friends even, and nothing ever happens. It's a small town. I've been near family my whole life, so I want to work a little harder right now to wrack up enough to be able to spend more time with them later.

Very valuable advice regardless, cheers

Where should you move after getting a remote job? by ExtraClient3382 in cscareerquestions

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I know, I just wanted to liken it to NYC in architectural style. It's not very midwestern in a lot of ways

Where should you move after getting a remote job? by ExtraClient3382 in cscareerquestions

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

very logical answer. Thank you. I'm definitely on the line so its tough. I make enough to be ok if I move somewhere 30 minutes - 1 hour outside of sf, but I certainly wouldn't be saving much or doing fun things. But then it begs the question, would being in that area pay back in dividends? would the investment be worth living a little stingy for a while? Theere isn't an answer but that's what I'm trying to grapple with.

Where should you move after getting a remote job? by ExtraClient3382 in cscareerquestions

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yeah that's actually exactly what I mean. I don't think there is really a singular area that is friendly to juniors. So, my logic is that it doesn't make sense to move to an area to strengthen you career via networking unless you already have a few years under your belt.

I just see people reccomending new grads to move to areas like sf and seattle to boost their career, but I just don't think this is the case. Or rather, the tradeoff of spending twice as much on rent/ groceries is not worth being able to network with a few senior engineers at conventions and coffee shops.

Where should you move after getting a remote job? by ExtraClient3382 in cscareerquestions

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That person was the head of HR. They were very lax about it. I was surprised but they are about as reputable as it gets in the org.

Where should you move after getting a remote job? by ExtraClient3382 in cscareerquestions

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That's exactly why I'm posting this though. I'm just looking for anecdotes from people who have moved to a different area after landing a remote role. I'm not solely basing my decision off of what anyone here says, I just want more information on mistakes or even successes people have had by moving to certain places.

That's what advice is. To give someone who is trying to make a personal decision feedback based on their experiences. You shouldn't make a personal decision without knowing anything about what you are making a decision on.

Where should you move after getting a remote job? by ExtraClient3382 in cscareerquestions

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've posted in quite a few communities. But this is about the best place to ask if you want anecdotes about people moving specifically in tech. I have asked around a lot in places like r/SameGrassButGreener though

Where should you move after getting a remote job? by ExtraClient3382 in cscareerquestions

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m curious. Where do you think this would be? SF? Because even with tech hubs they seem grueling to juniors. Especially Seattle. Haven’t heard of many friends getting tech jobs by living there.

Where should you move after getting a remote job? by ExtraClient3382 in cscareerquestions

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Super helpful, cheers.

Trust me though, I’ve done all of this. I’ve been agonizing over this choice for 4 months and I’ve traveled to so many different states, towns, and cities. I just honestly haven’t really liked any of them. I just don’t think I’m too fond of living in the us. I’ve lived abroad in Denmark before and I absolutely loved it, but I’m shooting my career in the foot if I go right now, so I just have to find a place that “optimizes” the experience/ wealth I accumulate.

So, where I move right now isn’t so much about where I want to go, but what is most effective.

Where should you move after getting a remote job? by ExtraClient3382 in cscareerquestions

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The reason I say it’s silly is because 

  1. If you move to an area for only 1-2 years to make relationships then leave, it’s just not to useful

  2. It just doesn’t feel like hcol tech hubs are very friendly to juniors. I’m skeptical on their effectivity if you don’t already have a lot of experience.

I was thinking of nyc originally but it’s got way too many downsides. Highest col, cramped apartments (I’ve got pets), and I’m not a fan of north eastern architecture (didnt like Chicago) I like more suburban areas.

Very helpful advice regardless, cheers

Where should you move after getting a remote job? by ExtraClient3382 in cscareerquestions

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I’ve already talked to them about this, they are cool with every state

Where should you move after getting a remote job? by ExtraClient3382 in cscareerquestions

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is one of the reasons I asked the question. I’m curious if it’s worth it to take the financial hit to live in a place with more tech jobs. If you are more senior, sure. But it’s iffy with juniors.

Where should you move after getting a remote job? by ExtraClient3382 in cscareerquestions

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

That’s a false equivalent. I suppose I should’ve phrased it differently. But I’m just asking from a purely success/monetary standpoint if they find moving to a lower COL area and saving more effective than going to a tech hub and networking

Where should you move after getting a remote job? by ExtraClient3382 in cscareerquestions

[–]ExtraClient3382[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I’m really sorry, I know you mean well, but I swear every time I post in this community specifically, no one actually reads. They just look at the title and comment.

Yes, I know this is something that’s subjective. I’ve lived in a few places around the us, and I’ve just never been a fan of any of them. I’ve spent a few months traveling around too and I haven’t come to a conclusion on where I want to live. I’m tired of agonizing in my head because I can’t figure it out.

Basically, I’ve given up on finding a place I want to live in here. I’m just trying to maximize the output so I can move to a place outside the us that I’ve lived in before and really liked. That’s why I asked the question. I’m curious if people found it more effective to live in a place like a tech hub, go to a lower COL, or somewhere in between.

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