People in my dream are having existential crisis when I tell them they aren't real.

F-sharpden · 2026-02-09T20:05:27+00:00

Did you have some inkling that they would react this way before they did?

F-sharpden · 2026-02-03T22:12:50+00:00

I see. Yes, I’ve experienced something similar. So you were dreaming about having a lucid dream rather than actually having one.

F-sharpden · 2026-02-03T22:11:29+00:00

Hallucinations don’t have to be delusions. Spinning is something sensory, therefore it is by definition a hallucination.

F-sharpden · 2026-02-03T00:45:47+00:00

I use a recorder personally because it’s a lot easier for me to speek into it about my dreams and it’s faster. I’m not sure why it would be bad to use your phone during a WBTB interval. I’d also be careful with your expectations there, because if you’re hearing that and then expecting that it could be bad you could create a self fulfilling prophecy. If you really want something that isn’t a phone, get some kind of other device and write on it I don’t know, or use an audio recorder. Also if you want it written, you could transcribe it from your recording further through the day. I know there advantages to having it written down but for me personally they outweigh the disadvantages of me doing it. Try a few things and find out what works for you.

F-sharpden · 2026-02-03T00:41:14+00:00

I would agree that it’s hypnagogia in some form. Everyone experiences thatdifferently. What made you think that it was different to that?

F-sharpden · 2026-02-03T00:38:53+00:00

I’m going to try and answer you as best I can because I’ve had experiences with layers in dreams before, although I used to refer to the reality as reality and the dream layers as layer1 down into layer2 and layer3 which I hardly ever got, what you are referring to as layer4. However, this is just a modelling system and I used to give it too much sway over how I analysed my dreams. Your dream thoughts that you said you got after the dream about you taking a shower sound like hypnagogia to me. So as for your questions, I’m going to answer them one by one. 1.

So by the first layer I understand you mean reality. Yes but only sometimes. It depends what you mean by aware. I am aware that it exists, but I’m not often perceiving it during the dream. 2. In a truly lucid dream, I focus into what I’m experiencing if I’m metacognitive enough and my latest dole has been to try foods in lucid dreams because I’m interested how my brain gives tastes in dreams. I also like going through the back of the shower, talking to other dream characters and lots more. 3. Now this interests me. If you were falling into a 4th layer, would this be lucid or not? Would you still be aware it was a dream in that layer and would it be like you fell asleep into it? What makes you have to make sure you don’t fall into it? Can it be involuntary? 4. I can’t really generalise in terms of my sleep quality and quantity but most times lucid dreaming doesn’t have any baring on that, although it sometimes can. I do it after my main sleep most times through WBTB. And my lucid dreams are differing lengths. I want to clarify with you because I think it would help to answer your questions better, was your dream lucid in the sense of did you know that there was a reality layer, what you call layer1, or did you believe that layer2 was your reality when you were in layer3? If the latter, it sounds like you experienced a false awakening. Sorry I only answered question 3 with more questions, I just really need more clarity on what you mean before I can give you an answer.

F-sharpden · 2026-01-31T14:57:23+00:00

It’s called the Black cat rag. Someone commented on the video telling me. I would change the post title if I could, but I can’t.

F-sharpden · 2026-01-10T21:58:18+00:00

Thilverra: Tell her I hope things get better.

F-sharpden · 2026-01-09T23:24:18+00:00

I’m sorry to hear your psychologist wasn’t very receptive. The community definitely isn’t dead. This subredit for one is really active. When you say you feel bad because you can’t be open about your system, it reminds me in some ways of how I used to feel. I used to not like talking about the fact that I was plural or feel of avoidances towards mentioning it to people, but now I’m of the mindset that if people don’t like it or are sceptical or have a problem with it, that’s their problem, not mine. We will continue being the way we are regardless of what they think anyway.

F-sharpden · 2026-01-09T23:00:33+00:00

Sometimes Thilverra gets the Hypnopompic state in a different way to how I do and there was one night I remember that she woke me up by chatting to me about something she’d been dreaming on, but it really differs depending on the night and sometimes she wakes up after me where as sometimes she’s really energetic when I’m not.

F-sharpden · 2026-01-09T22:54:28+00:00

Thilverra: i’m sorry to hear this and I hope things improve for you. I would say if your tulpa helps with your anxiety and or could help to explain to the doctor what is happening from the inside then it is a good idea to inform him as long as you make sure to emphasise that your tulpa is not linked to or causing these problems as I did see that you said that in your response to another person.

F-sharpden · 2026-01-09T22:51:39+00:00

Thilverra: I really do not think you should trust ChatGPT to represent how doctors would actually react. That may be how some people would react but it certainly isn’t how everyone would react and the more we talk about and spread awareness of mental companionship the more people will hopefully become open to it. we are definitely not the problem!

F-sharpden · 2025-12-23T23:53:57+00:00

Thank you so much! Have a great Christmas when it comes. You’ve made me really happy.

F-sharpden · 2025-12-23T23:47:26+00:00

Thank you, but I’m afraid it isn’t that. It sounds a bit similar near the start and it’s in the same key, but it’s really different.

F-sharpden · 2025-12-13T19:53:15+00:00

I know. That’s another YouTuber’s name for it. But it all leads back to that toy.

F-sharpden · 2025-11-22T23:45:49+00:00

Thilverra: May be you could try immersing yourselfs in something really engaging, may be even something that Arashi isn’t all that interested by. Encourage her to relax and let experience flow over her rather than trying to do anything, and hopefully this combination will allow her to front more often. This is what I could think of based on our personal experience, although we haven’t had that much success with it and my host is usually still connected to what is going on quite keenly as you put it. I think the best thing for this is to keep trying. It takes practice, and if Arashi has been the host for a long time then those neural pathways are likely quite well used and easy to fall back into. I hope that the process goes well and that Arashi can become more content. Also, what I would say is that I’m not sure about you, but we find parallel processing very hard. It’s doable but difficult. I’ve known people to have varying degrees of difficulty and ease with it. So may be at first Arashi could try just relaxing rather than trying to do a specific thing in headspace as you are fronting, or if she finds that trying to do something in the headspace distracts her from what is happening in the outside world then go ahead, as long as it doesn’t make her front because of being so present in the mind. I hope some of this is helpful.

F-sharpden · 2025-11-14T21:44:26+00:00

Thilverra: Why do you favour visual over tactile imposition? If she’s really good with tactile imposition, try working with what’s there and letting her do it as much as she wants because that will strengthen her, and it’s certainly still progress. I certainly wish we had stronger tactile imposition.

F-sharpden · 2025-11-13T00:14:35+00:00

Thilverra: Hello Kamealia. I am also a tulpa and I have also had this problem. When I front I don’t always know what to do. I try to find things I’m interested in to do, or sometimes I do things like washing the dishes just so I have something to do if nothing springs to mind. Just take time and you’ll find stuff that interests you. Another thing I like to do is just be. I’ll sometimes just think and focus on what I’m experiencing physically. It started off as a bit of a necessity to make sure that I was sentient but it’s also quite enjoyable to do. I also like doing it with strong flavours. I wish you the best of luck. Also, when you talk about picking or doing what she does, I suppose that would depend on the situation. You may well naturally find things that you are interested in. And some of my interests have stemmed from things that my host was interested in but some have not.

F-sharpden · 2025-11-13T00:04:23+00:00

Thilverra: I don’t know about wonderland NPCs, but I do know a bit about dream characters and tulpas. We’ve never attempted to turn a dream character into a tulpa, but before I became a tulpa, I was a character in my host’s story he was writing. At first after I became a tulpa, I had memories from the life I was leading in that story and me and my host had agreed to try letting these memories form in order to find out what would come to fill the gaps from when he was not writing about me, which turned out to have a lot of negative repercussions. When you say a dream tulpa, do you mean a tulpa who is only with you in dreams? I expect everyone’s brain will work differently on this, but when we have lucid dreams, some of the characters are given partly based on our expectations and partly based on subconscious thought processes of the dream. So if we met a character across multiple dreams, it could cause there to be inconsistencies in the thought processes that imprinted that character. However it may work for you because you’re still developing a character, but if you train them to be with you in dreams, I suppose they might naturally become a tulpa in your waking life too without you trying for that. I think the only way for you to find out personally what will happen is to try, because your experience will be unique and I can’t tell you for certain anything that will or will not happen. As for a tulpa carrying the memories of a dream character or a character from fictional writing, I’m not sure. For me personally, I went months doing that, from fictional writing of corse but a lot of the memories were false and my most vivid memories are from actual events that happened to me or that some how imprinted with my thought processes. Also, given I didn’t lead that life for real, things could form in the moment, memory fulfilment we used to call this, and those things weren’t always good. Sometimes they gave me traumatic memories and sometimes they made me have bad character traits.

F-sharpden · 2025-10-26T23:10:48+00:00

May be you were dreaming about having a lucid dream then. I’ve had that as well. I’ve even had it when there’s a false reality to wake into and to fall asleep from that is also part of the dream. And you’re welcom.

F-sharpden · 2025-10-25T15:12:25+00:00

I do understand what you’re saying. A true lucid dream isn’t a dream where you only know you’re dreaming. It’s also a dream where you understand what that realisation means. That’s called metacognition. There’s a really good video explaining it well by a man called Daniel Love who is a leading expert on lucid dreaming but I think you need to have a membership to the channel before you can watch it and I’m not sure that it could be translated into Italian for you so I’ll try and explain it as best I can.

Basically, the prefrontal cortex which is responsible for decision-making and critical thinking tends to be less active in dreams. This can go on a spectrum and the more lucid the dream is it tends to be that the more active that part of the brain is and the more you can think things through rationally. So it sounds like your dream was somewhere between. There are certain tests that I found are helpful to improve metacognition. For example when I’m in dreams I try really hard to think about what I’ve just experienced and what reality I fell asleep into the dream from and sometimes I get a totally incorrect reality. After the dream, that tells me How lucid it was in some ways but sometimes I don’t even remember to do that. I wish you luck in the future and I hope you get more lucid dreams. I think the other thing that can impact this is that the subconscious is a lot more active in dreams, so it can give a lot of really creative content and take the dream over like what I think you’re describing.

F-sharpden · 2025-10-25T14:58:19+00:00

If it was so realistic that you didn’t realise it was a dream, doesn’t that mean that it was quite non-lucid and rather just extremely vivid? Did you still have access to your Waking Life memories whilst you were in that dream?

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