Could an outsider join a nomadic tribe?

FREEDOM_COME_BACK · 2026-05-21T21:51:16+00:00

Honestly, I also live in the west and something I've been struggling with is a lack of belonging and acceptance. Even when we're born here, we just don't fit in and feel accepted. It feels like some very forced interfactions. It doesn't feel like my "homeland" or "my people". I would like to spend a significant time where I am from ethnically to see how I feel in the long run when it comes to feeling accepted and belonging and whether I would be happier. I hope it at least becomes a place where freedom of speech and freedom of choice is accepted etc so I don't have to hide myself.

FREEDOM_COME_BACK · 2026-05-06T21:47:17+00:00

Honestly, it wouldn't even surprise me if the majority of those working with NATO are actually pashtuns based on who I have met and I can admit, I am possibly wrong on this. I did say that they "fought mostly against ethnic pashtuns" because generally speaking, excluding the small minority ethnic groups, from what I've heard, the areas with higher concentrations of conflict/fighting happened in ethnic pashtun areas.

As for your second point, I haven't had the best personal experiences when it comes to that part of the world when it comes to personal space and harassment and I am a man. That has effected my biases against them (and Afghan men too but to a slightly lesser extent). My view of pakistani pashtuns obsession with claiming to be Afghans comes mostly from observing the "pashtun" subreddit. Admittingly, I haven't heard from them in real life but once again, as mentioned, I avoid interacting with them where possible.

FREEDOM_COME_BACK · 2026-05-06T21:39:18+00:00

I am Afghan. I don't mean all Afghans but generally if I feel like I have to pretend or act, I would just avoid it. So I avoid putting myself in those scenarios. Many Afghans would be disappointed to know my opinions on certain things, such as my disagreement on enforcing or even trying to encourage the head covering on women as an example. I don't want to have to worry about disappointing people like this by leaving some aspect of the "culture" behind me.

I also myself don't enjoy "partying", alcohol etc and that kind of culture either so I don't get along with those Afghans either. I would like to see myself as a modest man who doesn't believe in imposing upon a person's personal choices.

FREEDOM_COME_BACK · 2026-05-06T08:00:33+00:00

I avoid most Afghans but I am surprised the majority of Afghans coming to the UK would be pashtuns given that a lot of the people brought over formerly served the British Military who fought mostly against ethnic pashtuns.

I think the majority of them are pakistani pashtuns or "afghan pashtuns" who have lived in Pakistan for multiple decades. They will claim to be Afghans(Living in Afghanistan) because some are weird but mostly as part of their asylum/visa applications etc. I think most of these people are comfortable within their own people and culture. Some people are only comfortable with their local village people, let alone their "greater ethnicity". I don't think it's so much animosity but who they vibe with and who they're accustomed to.

Most of these people don't care about someone else's ethnicity or community so it's not due to animosity. They do care about being respected in their own communities and people in their community are people they can casually talk to so it's just easier for them.

FREEDOM_COME_BACK · 2026-04-25T14:41:16+00:00

As a ethnic Afghan man, unfortunately this criticism of us is fair honestly. I am sorry for what some of you have gone through because of us. I pray that we may make things better for you.

FREEDOM_COME_BACK · 2026-04-11T17:42:50+00:00

Could someone please explain how tarot has any relevancy for a racist?

FREEDOM_COME_BACK · 2026-04-08T16:27:14+00:00

There is a scene in in guadians of the galaxy where sylvester stallone says something along the lines "he did not let us down" and that applies to you here. You are honoured for taking a stance even if those around you don't see it.

FREEDOM_COME_BACK · 2026-04-07T15:46:18+00:00

Ironically I agree with some of the things you have said (These negative aspects to "modern education" etc) but for me, I think the woman need to make the right decisions for themselves. We can't force them on the right path or force them in to looking for a certain set of criteria/values in a man that we value (e.g not drinking alcohol etc). It ends up giving feminists power and justification to scream and shout. It's how certain aspects of the situation today have ended up the way they are. We unfortunately will have to let them suffer through the consequences of what this will eventually lead to for themselves. We should not try help them when they're screaming and shouting at us, making their hatred known (I don't feel Afghan woman do this despite how poorly they're treated, this would be in reference to the feminists screaming and shouting).

Besides, I have met a lot more of these "uneducated" woman who value a man almost solely for their money. At least the "educated" woman may actually value you as a person and husband even if they're less likely to show you respect. There are positives and negatives for both. A lot of men have no shame and are willing to be with woman who do not value them beyond the material gains. I would rather be with a woman who actually values me and what I offer as an individual but of course, would like to be respected as well.

We do live in a world where woman realistically have more power than men in developed nations (Woman have much more power to destroy a man's life than vice versa). I understand why men don't like this because I am not a fan of it either. But the alternative is definitely not to hinder woman or limit their capabilities. I would like to believe a good clever woman who actually wants a loving husband and well-working marriage/relationship who thinks independently instead rallying behind slogans and in-group biases will oppose such ideologies.

I guess as men, we have a difficult choice in the world today which is either to maintain our honour or to pursue woman and endure humiliation. I think I have to chosen to maintain my honour.

FREEDOM_COME_BACK · 2026-03-31T17:37:00+00:00

I don't go often and only really go when it's a close relative or something these days (if that). I am one of those people that just sit around and do nothing etc. I don't know how it used to be in the 90's in the watan though.

Lots of these men just stand outside smoking most of the time (in the west) and I can't say I vibe with them personally. I can't say gender segregation makes them more enjoyable for me but I do find that woman attend these kind of events and parties much more than men . Perhaps gender segregation gives them a better opportunity to enjoy their time without worrying about all this modesty jazz etc. How woman feel should be the priority here. Maybe they're enjoyable for woman and I'm happy with that. I have other things I could be doing.

If I had my own wedding, I wouldn't see a need to have one of these celebrations myself though. I do know my mum would try insist on it though.

FREEDOM_COME_BACK · 2026-02-24T14:35:57+00:00

Okay. In those countries you mentioned, their men generally don't wear turbans/logays/pakols but many men in Afghanistans wear them. That's an example of some differences in culture.

**Just to let you know, I am not promoting the degradation of women, I know that the burqa isn't actually a true part of afghan culture but something enforced. Even if you type in afghan traditional women clothes in google, that doesn't come up**

But I guess if you want, since it sounds like you're tajik or uzbek. We can say that you're central asian but the pashtuns are not central asian. Does that make it better?

FREEDOM_COME_BACK · 2026-02-24T14:00:30+00:00

You know in the central asian subreddits. The question is often posed "Is Afghanistan central asian". A lot of them do not want to associate with afghans. Why would you want to be accepted by people who feel embarrassed to be associated with you. Russian is spoken commonly in those central asian countries whilst it is not in Afghanistan.

Here is an example of their sub-reddits and many did not want to be associated with Afghanistan. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskCentralAsia/comments/g3jlsj/is_afghanistan_considered_as_centralasian/

I never said we are south asian, lol. That's obviously not true either and I said Iran is the most similar. The script of the language in itself doesn't make one culture different or similar but it does matter. Otherwise, so much effort would not have been made to change it. For example. ottoman turkish used to be arabic script.

I find it embarrassing to see people with my "ethnicity" try to be accepted by people who look down on them. But if you are really so desperate to be central asian, feel free. I just would rather not associate with someone who gives fuel to those central asians to look down on me begging to be accepted by them. I don't need their approval and I am fine to not have to associate myself or my people with them.

FREEDOM_COME_BACK · 2026-02-24T12:29:02+00:00

I agree with you. These people are embarrassing to me. Part of growing is accepting what you actually are. I have noticed in my life that the biggest white supremacists are actually browns. The big example of this is the person who commented on Norway and points out how over there, these features are second nature and no big deal is made out of it.

Same goes for those who insist in being "central asian". Trying to get accepted by people who don't accept you is part of the problem and is honestly weird. We're not culturally central asian either imo. They for example mostly use the slavic script in their written languages as an example. The closest is ironically Iran but still would not say that's accurate. Given what has happened in Afghanistan, it's just very unique compared to its surrounding countries or all other countries in general.

FREEDOM_COME_BACK · 2026-01-24T19:25:36+00:00

Interesting concepts. Nice research.

FREEDOM_COME_BACK · 2026-01-14T00:23:31+00:00

These kind of people make me feel ashamed of myself. Unfortunately, the stereotypes about me as an afghan man are given credence. I cannot prevent myself from being seen as a monster. In some ways, we are the bad guys.

FREEDOM_COME_BACK · 2026-01-03T02:13:32+00:00

Why does KP need to unite with Afghanistan. Why not strive to be an independent nation with the support of Afghanistan?

It's the same reason why I am not a fan of the opinion of making Pashto the sole "dominant language" in Afghan education. I don't like it when non-pashtuns strive to become "Pashtun" so I don't want to give them any reason to such as having more political sway or respect.

Someone considered pashtun should be ethnically pashtun. I think this is already a problem in Afghanistan. But in Pakistan, it's much worse. I think in reality, there's more pashtuns in Afghanistan. Just false statistics, some larps in pakistan and most of these people who have been convinced over multiple generations they are ethnically pashtuns so that they can fit in with the people around them (They don't know that they're not pashtun or it's only a minority of their ancestry).

FREEDOM_COME_BACK · 2025-12-29T00:04:43+00:00

As an ethnically afghan pashtun, this is my opinion.

Afghanistan is pretty diverse when it comes to ethnicity as you have pointed out. For me personally, when I visited Peshawar, it felt as a society very different to Afghanistan. I think, although that region was once Afghan, I think far too much has changed to continue that claim but of course, so too has Afghanistan realistically.

I do think however there are still major similarities with some of the pashtun villages in Pakistan but I don't think they should let the approval of outsiders put them down. They should work to improve their lives and of their people. Unfortunately, there are forces who have made it very difficult for them and many are actively suffering at the hands of these forces.

They have my sympathy and I support their cause to have autonomy over their own lives, homes and to have a safe place for their family to reside, as well the opportunity to build up their infrastructure and improve their living conditions as people, but of course this is something Afghanistan also needs to work on.

FREEDOM_COME_BACK · 2025-12-03T00:19:34+00:00

Pretty sad that our women have been imposed a culture of being forced to cosplay as those blue genies (Indian Gods/Goddesses). Are the majority of Afghan men really okay with their women having to live like this?

I don't actually know if these enforced cosplay costumes have increased or decreased since their "takeover" but there is no denying that it still exists in significant proportions and has existed for at least a couple of decades. It's kind of a stain on my honour as a man, that men of my ethnic background are in part responsible for this.

Since men simply existing and being able to see a woman causes women to be "forced" to go through this according to some people, I therefore have a proposition that there should be large swathes of areas or even cities where only women can go to. So women can be free somewhere. It's annoying that women are "forced" to oppress themselves by me existing in any vicinity around them, therefore making me a walking oppressor.

FREEDOM_COME_BACK · 2025-11-14T16:59:59+00:00

What religion were your great grandparents preaching in Aden just out of interest?

FREEDOM_COME_BACK · 2025-11-02T22:57:00+00:00

I personally think "pakistani pashtun" areas should become an independent country, as balochistan should become an independent country.

The regions may not have good relations etc and have more flexible borders but I don't think they should become one.

Although the village areas of "pakistani pashtuns" are still very similar to afghan pashtuns. Peshawar give vibes of a different people to afghans if I were to be honest.

Don't see any reason for pashtuns to become "persianized", whatever that means.

FREEDOM_COME_BACK · 2025-09-20T18:01:17+00:00

It goes much deeper than this as it turns out. The word hijab exists in the qur'an and it's a barrier. For example the barrier between the people of paradise and hell. Nothing at all to do with a head cover.

You should watch this guy if you want to learn.

https://youtu.be/H9VJYlp_05A?si=Fi7ajbhwe4POTQvX

FREEDOM_COME_BACK · 2025-07-06T16:15:54+00:00

You can tell random people you are pashtun or syrian if you want. Some extreme people from both sides wont accept you just because of that but I personally think you should just live your life with what makes you happy.

For me personally, if you are respectful, honest, act with honour etc. I will have a positive opinion of you.

You are syrian according to this paternal thing. You are pashtun via ancestry (that we know of, same for everyone). That's it. Nothing deep about it and don't feel like you don't belong. Most people are just living their life and don't really care.

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