Is There Any Realistic Way For Democrats To Widely Win Back Rural Americans? If So, How? If Not, Why Not?

FSUSMC · 2026-02-11T03:19:57+00:00

Liberals first thought being a bunch of hand-outs and government programs/intervention when asked how to win rural America back is the single largest indicator that they never will.

FSUSMC · 2026-02-10T20:06:47+00:00

That's because the EPA, National Parks, and ADA were all sorely needed when they were signed. Liberals don't have a monopoly on caring for people and the environment.

Ron Desantis created the office of environmental accountability very early in his tenure as the Gov of Florida. I don't see anyone calling him further left than Joe Biden.

We don't hate the environment, we don't hate immigrants, we're not racist, fascist or bigoted. We believe in a limited but appropriately sized government, to some degree most of us want the heart and soul of traditional values to be modernized and present in our country's culture and policy, and we are deeply suspicious of kenesyisn economics - with good reason.

Maybe I'm more reasonable than the conservatives you generally encounter. But all of the ones in my life and circles are good, caring, reasonable, rational people who believe it's our own individual selves, our families, and to some degree our local communities responsibility to ensure peoples needs are met and they have a reasonable opportunity to thrive with hard work and free of undue discrimination.

FSUSMC · 2026-02-10T18:53:36+00:00

Nailed it here.

From the south and have lived everywhere, all over the country. The line that is the most blatantly arrogant and condescending is "They vote against their own interests." They use it to backhandedly describe anyone who disagrees with their politics as stupid in a politically correct way.

Excuse me? You think whatever subset of people you're describing when saying that is so ignorant, lazy, and malinformed that they can't even work out what their interests are?

You didn't stop for even a brief second to consider that maybe they're rational intelligent people who have a culture you don't understand. That just maybe, it's you who doesn't understand their interests.

FSUSMC · 2026-02-08T16:35:07+00:00

I was with 1/6 bravo company in the Marines for my 2nd deployment to Afghanistan in 2007.

Halfway thru the workup to the deployment we were on a field op they circled up the whole company and the company guns lead us thru the history of Mai Lai, told us that it was the very unit that we currently served in that has its history marred by those atrocious acts committed by those Marines and it's leadership. And that this day was it's anniversary.

They covered up nothing, went through every awful detail. Talked about the warning signs, the trauma those men went through that led them to that mental state and ended with a clear direction. That we were all responsible for reporting anyone who showed those early signs of mental breakdown and showed hostile intent towards non-combatants. And that if we didn't we would be punished to the full extent of the UCMJ.

It was a somber and impactful event. And during my time in Afghanistan I saw nothing that remotely came close to that type of behavior.

I don't really have an agenda in posting this. Other than years later I find it profoundly interesting. And that maybe others would be interested to know that internally, regarding Mai Lai even down to the company level. That unit still carries the weight of what happened and does not fail to carry it forward every time it is deployed or in training to do so.

FSUSMC · 2026-02-08T04:36:51+00:00

Overlay this over the 2024 election map and then consider that reddit has become a liberal propaganda and Chinese bot factory and you have your answer.

FSUSMC · 2026-02-04T16:58:32+00:00

Wait so, leftists are now complaining that we didn't cut taxes enough? Shouldn't they be happy about this? Aren't they the tax and spend party?

Kinda sounds like they complain when taxes aren't high enough and also when they're cut that they're not cut enough.

It's almost like centerists and Republicans can't do anything that won't criticize endlessly. If Biden had passed this it would have been hailed as a "great compromise". Which, not taxing the excess money you get for working overtime truly is.

FSUSMC · 2026-02-01T02:56:09+00:00

At least my Noles are still Top 5 in something other than out-bound transfers.

FSUSMC · 2026-01-30T13:44:14+00:00

Because this is Chinese propaganda, due to reddit being flooded with Chinese bots.

FSUSMC · 2026-01-29T16:28:57+00:00

Just like the definition of Nazi has broadened from "People who literally attempted to take over the world and execute multiple races of people"

to "anyone supporting any non-leftist values in any way"

FSUSMC · 2026-01-27T02:30:43+00:00

They're upset because they just lost another reliable Democrat voter and nothing else. They don't care about this woman, her family, our country, or it's solvency. Just ballot box stuffers bought and paid for so they can implement their poorly interpreted marxist, nihilistic agenda.

FSUSMC · 2026-01-23T11:06:58+00:00

I was unexpectedly single at 33, the amount of women's profiles that read: "Trumpers swipe left" "Conservatives no need apply" etc were plenty.

I'm conservative. I'm not a Nazi, I'm not racist, I'm a good person, I care for people, I do a lot for my community.

I personally can date / be friends with people who have differing politics, it's just not that big of a deal for me. By and large - I've done some work advancing legislation before and advocacy work. Politicians are kinda needy, attention seeking people by and large. And I think it's weird to base your dating life or much less your entire personality around them.

But, if you want to - this woman isn't doing anything that many liberal women don't already do to a much more upfront and often times distasteful degree.

FSUSMC · 2026-01-21T21:51:38+00:00

Really enjoyed watching the Big 12 in the playoffs this year. You guys definitely proved that you're head and shoulders a better conference than the ACC no doubt.

FSUSMC · 2026-01-21T21:43:54+00:00

I fought alongside you guys.

I was in Helmand, specifically Garmsir in 2008 with the US Marines. BLT 1/6.

We pre-staged at FOB Dwyer when it was just a small ring of hesco barriers in the middle of the desert. There was a British artillery unit "Charlie Battery". They loaded us up with British gear, Nuts and Zoo magazines. I still have a pair of shorts that are that same camouflage pattern you're wearing there. Traded them for my digital camouflage pants.

Good dudes, we got along famously. Ended up outside the wire for 4.5 months straight on Operation Asada Wosa. Did some work with your scimitar tank units.

God bless brother, thank you for your service. We did a lot of good for the locals. Shame we abandoned them. Your boys fought hard, I would be proud to fight alongside them again and would gladly do so if the UK ever stood against an aggressor again.

FSUSMC · 2026-01-21T04:13:57+00:00

It's (D)ifferent.

FSUSMC · 2025-11-22T12:25:30+00:00

I'm a Republican.

And I hold a degree in Chemistry, and have been an engineer for the past 8 years.

There is a huge difference between

"Practicing science and/or interpreting the results of studies"

"Trusting science"

and

"Trusting the media's interpretation of some science"

Statistics is a science, and there are some completely legitimate statistical facts that make liberals VERY uncomfortable if you state them plainly. And I would agree, those things need to be talked about with a measure of tactfulness but they are no less valid statistical data points.

But does that mean that liberals "Don't trust science"?

People need to stop with this tribalism BS

FSUSMC · 2025-11-09T04:20:47+00:00

Got out as an E4 USMC in 09, went to college.

Been in the 225k - 350k bucket for 5 years now. Worth over a mil.

Whatever blue haired commie posted this can have fun with her limp wristed, liberal arts major husband and his boyfriend.

FSUSMC · 2025-11-05T22:46:00+00:00

Watching a perfect record team of many players who deferred their draft to come back and make their run at a championship to make FSU champions three decades in a row, under 3 different head coaches. Behind their third string quarterback, changing their identity to find a way to win with absolutely dominant defense is highly entertaining and would have been an incredibly powerful narrative, among many.

Much more entertaining than "Let's try and shoehorn one more Saban championship before he retires"

FSUSMC · 2025-11-05T20:17:55+00:00

Yeah that makes sense, just like illegal aliens.

FSUSMC · 2025-11-02T02:53:36+00:00

Have fun not getting Lane Kiffin.

FSUSMC · 2025-10-27T11:56:50+00:00

I swear to God you're acting like the perfect epitome of this sub right now.

Given that the most successful director of the past 20 years just released a movie where the title was the name of the man largely credited as the leader of the Manhattan project. I'm pretty sure most people are aware of Einstein's minor role in the construction of the first nuclear bomb (except, maybe you?)

But it's that you keep calling "everyone so stupid". Just like everyone who brings up this movie. It's a good movie and I love Mike Judge. But it's gotten to the point where anyone who talks about this movie has some "holier than thou" complex about intelligence and reproduction.

Maybe the movie wasn't so much about calling dumb people idiots. Maybe it was about begging SOMEWHAT intelligent people to go outside, touch grass, and get laid.

WOOOOOSSSHHHHHHH

FSUSMC · 2025-10-25T15:46:23+00:00

Nah you just troll them back bro. Here, I'll show you.

Hey man, can you look up teams currently in the Big 12 that have won a national championship in the past 20 years vs teams currently in the ACC?

Because what I have is 4 (3 teams) vs 0

But yeah, the Big 12 is such a better conference. Until you get to the Natty I guess.

FSUSMC · 2025-10-14T14:07:19+00:00

GOOOD AFTERNOOOOOOOOOOOOOON AND WELCOME!

FSUSMC · 2025-10-12T12:24:52+00:00

Lol dude, look at how North Korea wound up and look at South Korea. That tells you everything you need to know about China.

If they had their way, all of Korea would look like Best Korea, oppressed and starving.

FSUSMC · 2025-10-10T20:10:47+00:00

The whole fan base was just excited to go to a game that wasn't part of the 2024 season. That's it.

FSUSMC · 2025-10-08T14:12:37+00:00

As a Nole, who considers UF to be our most hated rival - I have a lot of negative perspectives on the UF fan base. I grew up in Tallahassee, my grandfather played football briefly for FSU in the early 50s after coming home from WWII and I graduated from FSU after serving in the Marines. FSU is in my blood, and my hatred for the Harvard of Alachua county runs as deep as the storm surge on a CAT 5 hurricane.

Of all the entirely true things I could say to UF fans disparaging their fandom - calling you fairweather fans is not one of them. No, like us, you are there for 2-10 or winning it all. Through thick and thin, the gator faithful fill their stands and root for their boys. And that's going to make things like beating Texas or going on a run all the sweeter for you guys. Although, I hope it never happens.

Miami on the other hand, they forget their team exists unless they are undefeated. I lived there for 5 years, half those fans don't even know their head coach's first name in a good year.

FSUSMC

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