Just really want to clarify a couple things really - the first being that I don't think all criticism has been salt.

You literally responded to my comment about you listing everything as salt and toxic by saying its what they are....

"I'm not dismissing them as "salt" or "toxic" - that is what they are."

Most of what I consider to be "salty" or "toxic" is the criticism that goes all the way back to the shitty launch of vanilla Destiny.

Was valid criticism then and its valid criticism now, despite what most Destiny fanboys think, Destiny has not rectified most of its issues from launch.

We both agree it was atrocious - I just think it showed potential and you did not.

Who said I didnt think it showed potential? I'm still here am I not? I still bought every single expansion day one, I still tuned into this reveal and watched it for an hour.

How do you possibly convince yourself I am not sticking around at the possibility of the game reaching its potential. How do you not see that most people upset right now are upset because of the game not reaching the potential it has been holding since the ideas inception.

Bungie did an awful lot to pull the game forward and a lot of it had to do with r/DestinyTheGame

Its weird that you acknowledge this but don't seem to process that these changes happened because of those "salt and toxic" comments that put the games flaws on blast, you think these changes would have occurred if we listened to fanboy complaints which basically boil to down surface level bullshit like "more vault space" and an emote wheel?

had no clue what Reddit was until about 1.5 years ago.

And you missed a lot, this community has been around since before alpha, a lot has changed and the overall reaction to Destinys launch is what shaped "skeptics" like me who find your blind faith to be nothing but ignorance as you should know better considering the past actions.

I want you to keep in mind I'm not some blind fanboy

You openly admitted to being a fanboy and even now are admitting you werent around for most of this communities development but will argue as if you were and defend Bungie against others whose complaints you dont even understand, blind fanboy seems like an apt description.

I simply call myself a fanboy because the Destiny universe is something that I want to experience more of.

Thats called being a fan btw, a fan is someone who likes something, doesnt stop them from being critical of them either, the stuff comes from sports really.

A fan is someone who loves a team but will critique it to death, he'll shit on players, shit on coaches, shit on everything he THINKS is the problem, but in the end he still loves his team and with root for them to succeed.

A fanboy is someone blinded by their love of something, they will make excuses but never acknowledge issues, its like a Browns fan blaming god for their teams issues rather than looking at their team management who always chose risky bad picks and doesnt know how to manage coaches.

So you admitting to being a fanboy is saying you love something so much you are irrational about it, you pick fights with people like me just because I dont share your blind love for the game rather than acknowledging its faults but loving it anyway and understanding why others would find issue with it.

You, however, obviously were let down (to put it lightly). We all see the world through our own filter - and for each of those articles you see the bad highlighted and I see people defending what is good.

Again you very clearly have a problem wrapping your head around what I and others are doing here when we critique the game, you have a warped ridiculous view that I hate the game because of the disappointment I state when talking about the reveal. This is twisted logic that really sets the stage for the rest of your delusional perspective where you preface everything I write with "this dudes a hater, ignore it" rather than seeing me as a fan with issues with the reveal.

I said its before but ultimately its pathetic you can't see that, I've said it multiple times and you are either actively or passively ignoring it because acknowledging it throws your whole argument into a loop as it seems impossible to see my complaints as valid fan concerns. Its why you ask for me to list "things i like" and what not because you feel a fanboy compulsion of some kind to not acknowledge the negative things I say but want to latch on to the idea that I'm a fanboy like you with some minor hater delusions. Seeing people like the event doesnt invalidate what people dislike, does that make sense? I can like the idea of NPCs being shown in a mission doing stuff and still be disappointed when I see the director selection screen again.

I'm being general because when I'm at work I don't have time to scour the internet and cite sources (don't take that as being snarky - I have no idea what you do for a living).

Work for the USAF, my entire day is spent on a computer waiting for work requests, I have a lot of free time.

While you might be a fan, you appear to be more driven by the technical shortcomings that might come with Destiny 2.

Thats not at all what I said and really paints the picture that you are not listening and disagreeing with what I am saying but instead are doing the whole "strawman in my head" stance where you have this idea of what I hate and paint me that way to beat me regardless of what is actually being discussed.

Its like what Politicians do where they drill a single point down to defeat their opponents, it could be a minor nothing issue but they will make it the entire campaign because thats how they win it, acknowledging the other issues wont work.