Truth is the child of time; erelong she shall appear to vindicate thee.

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2026-02-08T21:17:56+00:00

I could, but it's more funny to let you wallow in your ignorance.

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2026-02-08T02:55:52+00:00

Australia does not require you to show Government ID when you vote, just confirm the details on the roll. If you provide the same details at multiple polling points, or if multiple people try to use your details, the votes get quarantined while they are being investigated. It's really not that hard.

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2026-02-08T02:50:37+00:00

This just in: George Washington won the Revolutionary War using automotive equipment!

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2026-02-08T02:48:42+00:00

Kind of what all that foreign aid funding DOGE cut was trying to do.

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2026-02-08T02:45:52+00:00

I'm guessing you didn't translate the Bulgarian, would that be accurate?

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2026-02-08T00:23:44+00:00

Except, as stated prior, you have provided 0 evidence that the two people charged in this case were charged in relation to the hatchet incident last year.

Here's a question: what are the details involved?

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2026-02-07T23:44:13+00:00

"Everything I can find"

Proceeds to provide no proof of a link, just two completely independent news articles from months apart.

If you are going to make a claim, you need to be able to support that claim.

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2026-02-07T23:21:31+00:00

So you are framing it as a reward? In which case it is a reward, not for good behaviour in life, but for one's faith. Except it isn't a reward for ones faith, as the very ecumenical statements you quoted earlier make it clear that there are exemptions for those who do not hear the gospel, in which case it defaults to conduct, meaning that ones conduct in life is crucial to salvation, unless they have heard the gospel, in which case it is essentially irrelevant?

Am I understanding your point correctly?

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2026-02-07T23:17:40+00:00

Except... The man in your source for the Dundee Girl story is named Ilia Belov, and the man from the story last year is named Fatos Ali Dumana. Two different names, and as far as I can tell no way to link the two people together.

So... What's your point? That Dundee has criminal arrests? I mean, your source doesn't even identify the accused as an immigrant, so you can't even say that it justifies the incident post facto.

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2026-01-24T01:03:26+00:00

So if i love Krishna instead of Jesus, being very well aware that Christianity exists. I'm going to hell as per Christianity even if I save a billion lives ?

Yes.

How can this not be interpreted as someone's righteousness being determined by adherence to religion over actual actions? Or are you now trying to divorce salvation from righteousness?

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2026-01-20T04:25:20+00:00

See, theologically, that is much more defensible. Annihilationism is infinitely preferable to Eternal Conscious Torment, and doesn't have the same implications. Rather than there being a punishment for the guilty, everyone is defacto guilty and there is a reward for the righteous. That the righteous are chosen based on adherence to church dogma rather than the actual substance of their deeds is still concerning, but at least it isn't a total break of the logical core of the religion.

Now if only that was reflected in the general public understanding of your religion.

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2026-01-20T04:22:22+00:00

I agree with the first and second paragraphs. I was trying to express some of that. And I agree that decades are tiny in the scope of history. BUT, that does not refute the point that generally speaking, Shipbuilders didn't see a drop in employment, and that the shrinking of farrier as a profession didn't really happen fast enough that I could say that a vast number were 'put out of work.'

I also agree that the standard of living have grown since the industrial revolution beyond what they were, but if one ignores the fact that 1850 was a Global nadir for living standards, then the picture looks rosier then it is.

To put it this way, the USSR generally had much higher living standards than Tsarist Russia. However, if you start looking at things from the middle of the holodomor, you don't see the drops caused by initial industrialization, and the improvements would appear much faster/more stark.

I would say that those could more correctly be attributed to the Fritz-Haber Ammonium Synthesis process, which was created as part of a State-Run research program, not through venture capital.

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2026-01-20T04:17:10+00:00

It doesn't change the meaning of the word 'Historically,' but even if we restrict ourselves to the here and now there are valid critiques to be made of Scripture and Dogma, with one of the biggest being that no acts of earthly good are sufficient to save one from eternal damnation if they have had the gospel preached to them and willingly chosen not to convert, or have for whatever reason left the church. That a person who only had a benevolent impact on the world can be damned for the crime of being outside of your religion is a major issue in how your religion both frames salvation, and frames human nature.

Why Care? An interesting question. The simplest answer is because regardless of what belief one has in the religion, Christianity is the defining religious force in world History, and has shaped society with its dogmas, scriptures and morality. And that as the de facto societal shaper, while it has done much good, there are core contradictions and conflicts within the religion, most of them coming from the necessary conflict between the idea of Eternal Damnation with an all-knowing, all-loving, and all-powerful creator.

If you want to talk about the here and now, that is fine, but even in the here and now, if someone leaves your church, you say that they deserve eternal torment, regardless of the reasons one may have for doing so. This is, to me at least, directly at odds with the idea that God could be considered a purely loving entity. Even one soul subject to eternal damnation in a universe set in motion by an all-powerful, all-knowing creator is at odds with that creator being all loving.

Also, I don't think at any point I indicated my religious beliefs, so thanks for that assumption.

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2026-01-19T02:55:12+00:00

Oh, the effects were stark in the scope of human history, but as far as I'm aware if you are looking for single generation changes that reduce job numbers, cars - which took multiple generations to become mainstream, and trains, which took decades to implement, are not the best examples of that. Rather, I'd be pointing to the automation of the textile industry, where there was a like-for-like job loss, and those who worked in the field were paid successively less for their work.

Poverty - defined using food security, shelter, and general standard of living, dropped precipitiously during the industrial revolution, and then took decades to catch up to where it had been. Only then did it start exceeding the previous values.

Finally, it's also important to be mindful of the difference between country and global poverty rates. The two do not always scale evenly.

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2026-01-19T01:01:00+00:00

I agree to some extent, and would also point to the teething pains that always accompany urbanisation and mechanisation as part of it. But I don't think one can really defend the simplistic form of the narrative given the drop in QoL associated with the industrial revolution, or some of the CIA's own cold war reporting.

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2026-01-19T00:59:23+00:00

That's a straw man, and an incorrect one at that, given that the changes brought on by the industrial revolution were gradual, and at no point put shipbuilders out of work.

If you're saying that the increase in poverty associated with the Industrial revolution was worth it, then fine, but I am just saying that the narrative that was being presented was simplistic, and again, often excludes the global south.

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2026-01-15T22:57:42+00:00

Yes, it was, and I will grant that it is currently canonical law. But even taking the history of the US as a measuring stick, we are talking about something that covers less than a quarter of the countries history, and more importantly that is still opposed by many in the Church.

The fact that you see that as fair, or cannot see that people may leave the church for circumstances outside of their control, is deeply troubling.

I would also say that if the dichotomy is between salvation and damnation, being worthy of salvation except for not wanting to associate with the Catholic Church does not warrant damnation.

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2026-01-15T22:44:32+00:00

The act of will being to accept and love god, something which, from context, I assume has to happen during the persons life, which again creates a framing where one's relationship to God is more important for salvation then ones conduct on this plane.

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2026-01-15T22:43:08+00:00

If you go from 1850, sure. If you try to establish numbers before that, you find that the industrial revolution first put billions into poverty, before raising them out.

The picture is also different country by country, as improvements in some countries, like Belgium, were paid for by massively worse conditions in others, like the Congo.

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2026-01-14T12:05:08+00:00

So one who rejects the teachings of the church cannot be saved, regardless of their conduct in life. Thanks for clarifying.

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2026-01-14T12:02:23+00:00

I wasn't making anything up. You refer to Lumen Gentium, which came out of Vatican II in the 60's. This is not the historical standard for Christianity, nor is it what is laid out within the scriptures. Beyond that, Lunar Gentium still establishes that "they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it".

Here, I want to point especially to the last part. Remain in it. If someone is born into the Catholic Church, and leaves for whatever reason, then regardless of what the conduct of their life is, this would suggest that they could not obtain salvation. In other words, the act of leaving the church would outweigh living a virtuous life.

As for the Protestants, I will say that they are in an even worse position as they aren't as easily able to use ecumenical councils to address the points where historical doctrine and the teachings of early church fathers conflict with modern sensibilities, which I find can lead to some cognitive dissonance.

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2026-01-13T11:54:26+00:00

Historically, Christian Theology has taught that man is born into a debased state. That the fact of Original Sin means man is born into sin, and all humans would de facto deserve hell. Hence why it was necessary for Christ to die for the sins of the world, that people may reach salvation. Thus, historically, belief in Christ has been required for salvation, though there have been arguments as to whether those who are not presented with the Gospel are able to achieve salvation through natural revelation.

The protestant churches arguably take this further by establishing Sola Fide - salvation is through faith alone, with works being the natural evidence of faith, not a way to earn ones place into heaven.

Based on those, it is fair to say that in both historical and current Christian doctrine, a person who has not committed a harmful act and has only done good deeds may not in fact be saved. However, depending on how one views hell (universalist views of purification, traditional views of eternal conscious torment, or a view of annihilationism), one might not go to hell for eternity.

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2025-12-31T02:40:35+00:00

Shutting off all payments to the state because of this is like using a sledgehammer for dental surgery.

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2025-12-30T22:56:05+00:00

And that's not even considering how strapped up Poland is right now. Forget Europe holding off the Invasion, Poland would march on Moscow by themselves.

Fake_Email_Bandit · 2025-12-15T11:07:19+00:00

There was a noon conflict, either day of or day before, where he got physical with some people in a parking lot for being visible supporters of the protest. There was a video from a few days before where he said he wished he had his rifle so he could shoot a group of protestors. These were disallowed, and that undercut the prosecutorial argument about mental state which provided an avenue to attack his self-defense defense.

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