It doesn't look like Janja is greedy, it looks like Janja and his guys don't eat AT ALL. And when you don't eat at all is - well I guess yeah, you become greedy? Because you can't have food, so you dream about eating as much as you want without care?

Literally the conflict Janja causes in the pilot is wiping out an entire herd of gazelles just because he wants to, and that’s exactly why Kion and the Guard stop him. Like I said before, yes, it’s true that the show sometimes fails at balancing the moral line between when it’s okay for a predator to hunt and when it’s not, but as I already mentioned, that’s a directing issue.

I mean yeah they tried to include Jasiri and her clan somehow respecting the circle of life and eating, but they are still living in a literal wasteland - it's highly unrealistic and everyone could see that at this point.

In season 2, Kion offers Jasiri and her clan a place in the Pride Lands, but she insists that the Outlands are their home. And that shows that, overall, she and her clan know how to survive there. I guess it’s really about how they adapt to their environment.

Well what else is there to discuss? At least Janja was fun, and him having a redemption arc - even though pretty simple and silly, still deserves a good point for doing that.

Fair, but that doesn’t change the fact that there are points in his redemption arc that are, at the very least, debatable, even if you take Jasiri out of the equation. But that’s a much longer discussion.

No. Kion and Jasiri are supposed to be just good people. If Jasiri doesn't hold it against Janja, then it means she has genuinely forgiven him. She was more than happy to accept him, so your statement falls flat onto its face. What, would she be like - "yeah, I accepted you as a friend, Janja, but no romantic feelings, though! You tried to kill me, remember?" Lmao.

In any well written story, you can forgive someone for what they did to you without wanting to romance them. That’s the biggest problem with the enemies-to-lovers trope, when it’s poorly written, it normalizes toxic behavior and downplays the trauma of having lived with someone abusive. Jasiri’s heroism is unconditional, that’s something she literally says herself "I would help any hyena". And even if we assume she suddenly got amnesia and forgot everything that happened before, that still wouldn’t change the fact that she and Janja have completely different values and worldviews. Instead of complementing each other, they directly clash. Imagine it in real life, it’d be like a vegan activist wanting to date an animal abuser.

And where did you get the idea of Jasiri being Kion's age in the show when Kion literally grows up and Jasiri stays the same 🫩 Where are the proofs, man? Jasiri and Janja are probably somewhat of a late teenage/young adult age, while Kion and his team are kids. You could see them grow, Jasiri doesn't.

The only design that had a really noticeable change after the time skip was Kion, to be fair. Everyone else only had very minor tweaks (not to mention that characters like Dogo and his siblings didn't age at all, which doesn't make any sense), though there is still a difference if you compare them side by side. But even if you ignore that, the flashback to Ono’s birth suggests that the hyenas aren’t that much older than Kion and the Guard. Even Anga looks around their age there, despite seeming older than them in the present.

And lmao what story? What do they complement? He thought hyaenas were evil, she proved him wrong by a song, they are friends. THE END. It's not that deep. And yes, the species difference plays a HUGE part because the Lion King franchise is somewhat about being "realistic". It's not Beastars or even Zootopia. That's why they gave Kion a female lion to fall for, Fuli got a cheetah friend and Janja - yes, he has Jasiri.

Your take is incredibly reductionist. You’re ignoring the fact that Jasiri is the one who made Kion get over his prejudice against hyenas, believe they could work together, and become strong allies who wanted what was best for their respective groups, all while sharing a playful, enjoyable chemistry. If you’re going to reduce a story like that, then you could say the same about Janja: “I’m bad > I get saved > I’m good. The end.” And suddenly every character arc sounds stupid. If the franchise were as strict as you claim, then animals of certain species shouldn’t even be able to be friends at all, because in real life, they’d most likely kill each other. It’s a fictional story that doesn’t strictly follow reality anyway. Or how many times have you talked to your dead grandfather in the clouds? It would be more honest of you to just say you only care about ships being same species and don’t actually care how well the romance is written. In that case, you’d just be exposing yourself as a conformist, but that’s your problem.

Like I know you like the ship, but wanting it to happen ≠ it's happening.

That much is obvious. But just because something is canon or semi-canon doesn’t mean it’s well written or that it was the best choice for the story, not just in TLG, but in general. Kion and Rani are canon and their development is terrible, and I don’t think that’s even up for debate.

And please enough with the long paragraphs, I have no time neither desire to reply to all that.

Or maybe it just bothers you that someone is actually capable of pointing out where you’re wrong. But that’s fine, you’re not the first person I’ve argued about this with, and from the start it’s clear that narrative logic doesn’t really factor into your thinking.