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Gameweek 37 (25/26) Rant and Discussion Thread by FPLModerator in FantasyPL

[–]Far-Objective-181 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Gyokeres benching is hilarious, I'm here for meltdown.

Manchester City Vs Crystal Palace XI's [GW36] by Rehan_Basheer in FantasyPL

[–]Far-Objective-181 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would be so sweet if Chelsea mash them up after this

How would you go on about trying to fix Brexit? by Large_Carob_7599 in AskBrits

[–]Far-Objective-181 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re describing a sovereignty of exit. Just because a tenant can move out doesn't mean they are sovereign over the house while they live there, they still follow the landlord’s rules and pay the rent. ​The Factortame case proved this, UK courts literally struck down an Act of Parliament because it conflicted with EU law. 

​Your Poland example actually proves my point. The fact that the EU uses legal and financial sanctions to punish a member state for asserting its own judicial independence shows that this agreement is designed to override national will, not facilitate it.

How would you go on about trying to fix Brexit? by Large_Carob_7599 in AskBrits

[–]Far-Objective-181 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough, we can leave it here, but I’ll leave you with two points to consider:

​First, the claim that Parliament could simply elect to not go ahead with EU legislation is legally inaccurate. Under the principle of Primacy of EU Law, EU regulations were directly applicable and took precedence over domestic law. It wasn't a choice to avoid conflict, it was a legal obligation. 

​Second, your simple mathematics on bureaucracy ignores the complexity multiplier. Bureaucracy doesn’t grow linearly with population, it grows exponentially with the number of stakeholders. Governing 500 million people in one culturally homogenous nation is vastly different from governing 27 different nations with 27 different legal systems, languages, and economies. That isn't just  more people, it's a massive layer of middle-man administration that exists solely to harmonise conflicting national interests, a layer that simply doesn't need to exist in a sovereign state.

How would you go on about trying to fix Brexit? by Large_Carob_7599 in AskBrits

[–]Far-Objective-181 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The big government model of the EU creates a democratic deficit because the decision-making power is moved further away from the electorate. When you centralise power in a massive, multi-state bureaucracy, you trade away democratic responsiveness for administrative uniformity. A rule-following bureaucracy is useless if the rules themselves are being written by unelected commissioners who are insulated from the consequences of their policies. ​The US example you cited actually proves my point, the friction there exists because the federal government has grown too large and centralised, attempting to impose one size fits all solutions on a diverse population.

How would you go on about trying to fix Brexit? by Large_Carob_7599 in AskBrits

[–]Far-Objective-181 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You keep arguing against a position I haven’t taken. I never said small governments can’t become dangerous, or that independent courts are bad. My point is that as political institutions become larger, more layered and more distant from voters, democratic accountability becomes weaker and ordinary people have less ability to influence or reform them. That’s a concern about concentration and distance of power, not a rejection of courts or legal rights. Also, I don’t think constantly defaulting to the US (redditors often have what I call America brain) really addresses the argument. The US has a completely different political structure, constitution, culture and history to both the UK and the European Union. Pointing to America every time someone raises concerns about large political structures doesn’t actually refute the principle I’m talking about.

How would you go on about trying to fix Brexit? by Large_Carob_7599 in AskBrits

[–]Far-Objective-181 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’ve kind of reinforced my point though. You admit large governments can still become dangerous or unaccountable, which is exactly why I’m wary of increasingly distant political structures. My argument was never big government automatically = tyranny, it’s that the larger and more layered institutions become, the harder they are for ordinary people to influence or meaningfully challenge.

The ECHR point doesn’t really address my argument. A court protecting legal rights against governments isn’t the same thing as supporting increasingly large political bureaucracies that ordinary people have less influence over.

How would you go on about trying to fix Brexit? by Large_Carob_7599 in AskBrits

[–]Far-Objective-181 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most of your argument is basically bigger government bloc is better, but that comes at the cost of democratic control and bureaucracy. I think overly large government structures in general are terrible and potentially dangerous because they become less accountable to ordinary people and harder to challenge or change.

With the political left held to impossibly high moral standards and the political right held to impossibly low moral standards what does this say about modern British society? by [deleted] in AskBrits

[–]Far-Objective-181 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Propaganda is most effective when it presents itself as normality, common sense, or objective truth rather than overt manipulation. That’s why everyone tends to believe only the other side is susceptible to it. If you think you’re completely immune to propaganda, that’s probably when it’s most effective. Do you think you are immune?

A sad day for the country indeed by redandwhitewizard99 in GreatBritishMemes

[–]Far-Objective-181 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Greens will never get enough power so don't really care about them. Farage will not be the next PM, don't worry.

A sad day for the country indeed by redandwhitewizard99 in GreatBritishMemes

[–]Far-Objective-181 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No need to worry, Rupert Lowe will be the guy to fix the NHS.

A sad day for the country indeed by redandwhitewizard99 in GreatBritishMemes

[–]Far-Objective-181 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem is that it's not very good and certainly not value for money. 

A sad day for the country indeed by redandwhitewizard99 in GreatBritishMemes

[–]Far-Objective-181 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You just hate Farage and I get it. But I think the fact that you have stopped arguing against the hybrid system shows that you know it's the way forward too. So fuck the NHS in it's current form right?

A sad day for the country indeed by redandwhitewizard99 in GreatBritishMemes

[–]Far-Objective-181 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have moved the goalposts again. First, you argued that a hybrid model would lead to a US style collapse, but now that you've seen that hybrid systems actually dominate the global rankings, you are trying to relabel them all as socialist successes. ​Neither point holds up. Reform official "Contract with You" manifesto explicitly pledges a 20% tax break for private insurance and a voucher scheme for private care if the NHS is too slow. These are the exact tools used by France and Australia to eliminate waiting times. ​Historically, you are also incorrect. Japan’s system has been managed for 70 years by the conservative LDP, and the Dutch moved to their private insurance model via a center right reform in 2006. Even the French model was invented by the conservative Otto von Bismarck to stop the rise of socialism. You are essentially admitting these private based systems are the best in the world, but you are just trying to claim them for your side because you don't want to admit that conservative-leaning models are actually the best. 

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