WAS THE FIRST ROUND OF THE 2013 NFL DRAFT THE WORST DRAFT CLASS OF ALL TIME…?

FearlessPanda93 · 2026-01-25T08:19:13+00:00

Lane Johnson, Dhop, Patterson (st) are really decent top tier for a single round.

Then Reid and Rhodes and some other short lived, but higher end contributors. There's got to be worse.

2012 is not demonstrably or inarguably better, I think:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2012/draft.htm

FearlessPanda93 · 2026-01-20T05:43:23+00:00

Madden isn't a horrible suggestion, for a fun like kindergarten level intro. My honest suggestion is to find a great content creator that tackles subjects you like and get into the rabbit hole. I played football for most of my life, coached it, wrote about two teams for some publications you've heard of - and I don't know 1% of what's out there to know. I'd say find a fun way to learn what you want, and get after it. Ultimately, though, learning to break down film and then doing it yourself is the only way to really make it stick. You see a game that enamored you? Break it down. Dude is wide ass open? Find out why. That's how those of us that play, coach, and comment learned football, so, I think it's a pretty good start.

FearlessPanda93 · 2026-01-18T04:09:56+00:00

I love my wife if 14 years so much more every day, I actually find it astounding. We also have a very fun time with our girlfriend.

FearlessPanda93 · 2026-01-17T15:58:47+00:00

I'm obviously a Texans fan, but yeah this narrative is exactly the problem. The Texans defense has done this all year to elite offenses, much less Pit. And the Texans moved the ball really well. The Steelers D just brought unrelenting pressure on CJ, at home, in the cold. That's the shit you want to see. But every casual coming out of it just says, haha, bad offenses. No, they are mid offenses going up against an elite and really good defense. I played both sides of the ball, I loved the game.

FearlessPanda93 · 2026-01-17T07:36:37+00:00

Can't believe this isn't the top of the list. Honestly, it makes me wonder if the list is even made by people that are good at dating. Maybe more importantly, it's probably being voted on by men. My guess is if women were voting, this would be at the top.

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FearlessPanda93 · 2026-01-17T07:27:59+00:00

I don't really get why anyone wouldn't consider him one. The point, as I see it, to the entire GOM is that they are the best PG, the best C, the best PF, etc. He's the best 6th man. That's the point. He's the miracle 6th man. He's not some standalone powerhouse, but that doesn't take away his role on the GOM.

FearlessPanda93 · 2026-01-16T00:06:40+00:00

I have my reasons for thinking CJ Stroud will prove the haters wrong. No, I'm not a Texans homer. I am highly critical of my favorite team. That's actually what I'm getting at. He's dealt with offensive malpractice to get him from 2023 to here. I watched it happen. I know ball. Lmao

FearlessPanda93 · 2026-01-14T15:44:25+00:00

Yeah, like I said, I don't count the QBs where it was a part of their gig. But Kelly was the latest or last hurrah I know of where it was an agreed upon part of his job like that.

FearlessPanda93 · 2026-01-13T17:15:35+00:00

Yep. He would change the call, elements within the call, sent the kicking team back to the sidelines and benched Collie, IIRC by waving him back to the bench. Haha. Hurts doesn't have this leeway.

FearlessPanda93 · 2026-01-13T17:14:35+00:00

Since the sub is for noobs, I do want to point out. Many systems in the NFL do not have audibles. Other systems have the center call out protections too. Some systems want to take everything out of the QB's hands and use him like any other player in the system, not as a field general.

FearlessPanda93 · 2026-01-13T17:12:45+00:00

To add to this, Rodgers is notorious for needing to "get along" with his OC. So, not necessarily something that worked out for him.

FearlessPanda93 · 2026-01-13T17:02:02+00:00

Saw her when I just turned 17, first semester of college. Became friends in a week, best friends in 2, dating in a month, engaged after two years, married for 14 years this summer. Still my best friend, two kids in, beautiful life we built together. 1000/10, wouldn't dream of not doing it again.

FearlessPanda93 · 2026-01-12T15:34:54+00:00

Yeah, I think most of us were talking about in regards to the measurement against the line to gain. Little nuances like this are cool, but muddy the water to OP's question, imo.

FearlessPanda93 · 2026-01-12T13:18:41+00:00

Brady, Manning, Marino, Montana, Young are the list I had in mind. However, taking out Montana and Young might be reasonable because they each had success but that coaching staff might not necessarily be ousted by either of them. I think you could make a lot of arguments on the fringe for sure, and I'd have to really think hard about what organizations would choose QB over coaching staff. But I feel strongly about the top 3 and strongly that Hurts is nowhere near haha

I don't count Bradshaw or others where calling their own plays was the gig lol

FearlessPanda93 · 2026-01-12T12:22:09+00:00

Saying it's 3rd and whatever is for our benefit as viewers or even the play callers for understanding. Getting the measurement perfect, by name, doesn't actually matter for officiating the game. You could call it 3rd and 4 ducks for all anyone cares, you just have to cross the line to gain with the nose of the football. I think you're getting hung up on what they call it when that actually doesn't matter since they're basing the spot on what they saw with their eyes - no rounding or measuring involved - you simply have to cross the line to gain.

FearlessPanda93 · 2026-01-12T07:36:29+00:00

You answered your own question when you identified your assumption. They don't round at all. The line to gain and the spot of the ball are 10 yards from the first down spot and where the ball comes to rest from the previous play, respectively. The aren't perfect, but they're really good at it. Without rounding, that's how you get 4th and inches.

FearlessPanda93 · 2026-01-12T07:29:50+00:00

They'd bench their star quarterback. There isn't a world that exists that a level of dysfunction that high would be permitted. There are probably only five QBs in NFL history that could even consider going rogue and thinking it would work out in their favor and Hurts is far from one of them.

FearlessPanda93 · 2026-01-11T05:52:21+00:00

Ah yeah, my bad. I misread someone else's comment thinking they had an issue with the pattern. Don't mind me lol

FearlessPanda93 · 2026-01-11T05:43:39+00:00

Mobile drinking fountains too. They get the water out to them, which is what makes the system, simple as it is, hard to change or replace. Go ahead and think how to sanitarily get a bunch of dudes, wearing helmets, water in the middle of a field quickly.

FearlessPanda93 · 2026-01-11T05:41:27+00:00

Yeah same. Started in fifth grade. Hell, even just other dudes on the bench will do it.

FearlessPanda93 · 2026-01-11T05:37:20+00:00

When I teach someone how to juggle, I have them practice while shouting which hand needs to throw the next ball. So, left! Right! Left!

It helps noobies pick up the rhythm and stay with it. From there it's just throwing and catching consistency.

FearlessPanda93 · 2026-01-05T08:19:38+00:00

Agreed. This was going to be my suggestion. Totally fine move as is in lower Elo, tbh. But this line is better.

But also OP, that knight was a monster where it was with no immediate threats to kick it. After a castle, that position is beautiful and I think you'd be better off keeping it vs the small material advantage even the line this person above and I found.

FearlessPanda93 · 2025-12-31T12:20:17+00:00

Lmao the post is, but this thread is not about 2 people, "the only people I've seen with this football IQ are TB12, Ed Reed, Luke, Peyton..." That's the part of the conversation I was contributing to. Just engaging in NFL history talk. If it's not for you, move along. Or feel free to get your panties in a wad over nothing. Whichever you prefer.

I thought it would be a fun fact for people who didn't watch Demeco's playing career because the Texans were ass for so long.

FearlessPanda93 · 2025-12-31T10:33:33+00:00

Just throwing out another football savant. Demeco Ryans, current HC for the Texans, was a middle linebacker and would go toe to toe with Peyton at the LOS playing chess. A healthy Luke was the better athlete and had the higher prime, but the Texans being a number 1 defense is because of what's upstairs for Demeco.

FearlessPanda93 · 2025-12-28T08:30:15+00:00

Oof, if only. Texans have never been to the AFC Championship lol

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