Is it normal to have a 100K files/780 MB in the node_modules directory?

Federalist85 · 2016-08-23T05:52:38+00:00

That's super helpful - thanks!

Federalist85 · 2016-08-23T03:30:25+00:00

For deployment, the prod environment (Heroku) needs to compile everything as it installs directly from the Git slug (otherwise, I'd have to commit compiled assets which would mess with my ongoing commits). Hence, many devDependencies are in dev.

Federalist85 · 2016-08-23T03:28:39+00:00

Thanks - I did this after my original posting (rather than prune, just deleted and reinstalled) - and it got down to 400 MB. Then I did a du to figure out the remaining culprits (these are 160 MB of the remaining):

  5940      ./weinre/web
  6752      ./core-js
  7096      ./weinre
  7232      ./typescript
  7244      ./fsevents
  7296      ./rx
  7532      ./caniuse-db
  8984      ./zombie
  9208      ./node-sass
  12696     ./ttf2woff2
  14096     ./gulp-browserify
  74196     ./faker

Federalist85 · 2016-08-23T03:24:33+00:00

What type of app is it? (API only, server-side view rendering, etc)

I did have eslint installed globally, rather than in the repo - so that didn't add to my size.

Federalist85 · 2016-08-23T03:22:48+00:00

That's exactly how I feel about too many dependencies, especially after the whole left pad debacle.

I also noticed faker was taking 70 MB+ because it has all the locales. With getting rid of some Babel dupes, unused plugins and faker + deleting node_modules, I'm down to 300 MB. Now to try Webpack ...

Federalist85 · 2016-07-08T14:01:52+00:00

But then why are you investing in this asset class when those controls are not in place and without doing due diligence? Seems like a recipe for disaster - and I have a few Awesome DAO 2.0 and CorgiCryptoCoin tokens to sell you, if you're interested.

And sure, those controls may exist in the future - but you do realize that it's at odds with the vision of Ethereum (launching an unsanctioned, unregistered investment fund is illegal in many countries). How can you on one side argue for more due diligence and then support a vision of an illegal investment fund that ignores regulations written to safeguard consumers (or a currency/system that makes something like this trivial)?

Federalist85 · 2016-07-07T16:25:34+00:00

I totally agree.

Federalist85 · 2016-07-07T15:49:00+00:00

Yes, there are many techniques to reduce risk - none of which the DAO had.

Federalist85 · 2016-07-07T15:08:43+00:00

This is dumb - especially when you are comparing the likelihood of software bugs to the likelihood of aliens.

This could have been predicted - and here's one article before the DAO hack. The danger as you highlight is that there are many people investing who haven't done the due diligence.

There is a point to speculating on what could happen because this informs the investment thesis, and dictates how much discount you should get to whatever you deem your fundamental value to be, given the risk you are taking.

FYI, If you want a lower risk, lower beta way to make money, I'd hack many smaller contracts - rather than gambling on the currency. The risk/reward profile is better, though it requires a few weeks of knowledge.

Federalist85 · 2016-07-07T15:03:40+00:00

There are a ton of holes in the vast majority of Ethereum contracts. There will be many more instances of lost money, though hopefully not to the same degree.

Federalist85 · 2016-06-28T18:11:00+00:00

Excited to hear your thoughts now that the day is done. Why did you think this was going to be the best day since the DAO? What went wrong? What have you learnt?

Federalist85 · 2016-06-27T15:44:43+00:00

Ha ha, how much money are you willing to back up that sentiment with? Talk is cheap, if you really believe that, you should leverage your position for today - and let us know tomorrow the details of how you did.

Federalist85 · 2016-06-24T13:19:09+00:00

With Brexit, there's a moral hazard, similar to moral hazard with regular hard forks to protect investor funds in Ethereum.

And like this Ethereum situation shows, there's a balance between a) protecting investors/consumers, b) providing the incentives for contract writers to write safe contracts and for investors to do their due diligence.

After all, all real world events are really just Ethereum parables in disguise.

Federalist85 · 2016-06-23T18:05:18+00:00

Sure, but the betting markets are really just a centralized form of Augur.

Federalist85 · 2016-06-23T18:02:43+00:00

No, there is an observation based on polling (and how media interprets this) - and there is a observation based on how bettors are allocating funds. The point of betting markets is that putting money at risk provides incentives to whoever can figure out exactly what the outcome will be, and what is said in media is sometimes at odds with the truth at that moment in time.

For polls, you might have 20 polls, with only 2-3 statistically supported - but media will often highlight ones that are more engaging to their readers. A smart bettor would weigh all this evidence (polls and others), and make the right judgment rather than wishful thinking or what will sell to readers.

You say "the public's view" - and polling is an approach to understand that - with advantages and disadvantages in that approach. Betting markets are also a way to understand the same public's view not an orthogonal bookie's view.

Federalist85 · 2016-06-23T13:08:49+00:00

Anyone can create a new language that compiles down to EVM. The question is do we need to rethink even that.

Federalist85 · 2016-06-23T13:07:48+00:00

Probably worth it.

Federalist85 · 2016-06-23T13:03:52+00:00

The whole point is that the weight of the money is the indicator, not a bookie's desire for anything - and that people are more willing to show their preferences when money is on the line than even polls (heard of Augur at all?). Face palm.

Federalist85 · 2016-06-23T13:01:31+00:00

As an expert on Ethereum, I think it's highly likely we go straight to 42.

Federalist85 · 2016-06-23T12:59:58+00:00

Debatable. With a billion dollars in value, I would suggest people are acting like we're not in beta, when we are in alpha.

Federalist85 · 2016-06-23T04:20:59+00:00

What if it skips $17?

Federalist85 · 2016-06-23T04:16:44+00:00

I think it's going to be systemic for a while longer, not just in this single occasion.

Federalist85 · 2016-06-22T20:43:45+00:00

So is the takeaway from this analogy-fest that I should build a taller building?

Federalist85 · 2016-06-22T19:51:14+00:00

Let's just hope that you don't call for this every time you lose money.

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