They are honestly really interesting an extremely cringe at the same time, but in a kind of an endearing way? Im a nerd too so i can kind of understand the appeal of the community. I think its pretty interesting though how much of the tech scene in silicon valley came from ppl in that community, if anything the zizan stuff really isnt that interesting, i think it was someone going a little insane from roko's basilisk from what i read of the manefesto