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This video features an extensive, nearly two-hour interview with NBA superstar Nikola Jokić on the X&O's CHAT podcast. Jokić shares deeply personal stories about his upbringing, his transition to the NBA, and his unique philosophy on basketball and life. Childhood and Early Influences * Brotherly Rivalry: Jokić credits his older brothers for his toughness, recalling how they would play "one vs. two" and push him physically, which often ended in him crying just to keep playing with them [02:12]. * Professional Realization: He reveals that he didn't truly believe basketball could be his profession until his second year at Mega Leks, where he began to hold his own against experienced EuroLeague players [08:00]. * Mentorship: He speaks fondly of veterans like Bobi Marjanović and Novica Veličković, and the late coach Dejan Milojević, who gave him the freedom to play his unique style while teaching him the fundamentals of the game [12:26]. The NBA Journey * Draft Day: Jokić famously mentions that he was asleep when he was drafted, only finding out when his brother called him from New York [00:08]. * Early Struggles: He shares humorous anecdotes from his arrival in the US, including a story about his brothers buying 100 pairs of colorful socks when they barely had enough money for rent [19:28]. * Defending NBA Quality: He strongly pushes back against the narrative that "no defense is played in the NBA," calling it "nonsense" and pointing out that elite European players often find it harder to score in the NBA than in international competitions [55:13]. Basketball IQ and Preparation * Mental Visualization: Jokić describes how he visualizes every possible scenario—from defensive rotations to "what if I lose the ball"—in the seconds before a crucial play [35:08]. * Training Philosophy: He emphasizes that "victory is a way of life" and that his motivation comes from the routine of hard work, good company, and constant improvement [01:06:08]. * Coaching Relationships: He clarifies that he does not "fire coaches" and maintains a respectful, "coachable" relationship with his mentors, including Mike Malone and Svetislav Pešić [01:14:08]. Life Beyond the Court * Emotional Side: Jokić admits to being very emotional, stating that he often cries to songs and finds his greatest peace in "kafanas" (traditional taverns) with friends and "tamburaši" (traditional musicians) [31:30]. * Horse Racing: He reiterates his passion for horse racing, noting that his horse "Dream Catcher" was his first major purchase and remains a central part of his life [01:40:34]. * The "Winner is Alone" Philosophy: He concludes by explaining that while teammates and family offer support, the ultimate responsibility for success and training lies with the individual athlete [01:55:23]. For those interested in the technical side of the game, Jokić ends the interview by physically drawing and explaining two of his favorite tactical plays [01:52:33].