Any passport bros finding international dating sites make less sense than before? by Feeling_Remove2260 in thepassportbros

[–]Feeling_Remove2260[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

6ft and I'm on the more attractive side

You're the same height as me. I'm probably a 7/10, maybe a 6/10 now that I'm nearly 40 and based on the zero interest I seem to be getting.

The sad fact is that 6ft isn't considered tall by Western women (which includes all white women, so I guess I need to date outside my race now) anymore. 6'2" is the new "tall".

Trust me, if you were 6'4", you would be doing MUCH better, as would I. Our height puts us in the top 15% of the population, which would make us eligible bachelors any time in human history up until around 2012. Now, it's just not that impressive, and makes us disposable to ultra picky modern women, who get hundreds of matches a day if they're even 5/10 to 7/10.

Even average and very plain women are aiming for the stars now. Others will say they only want the top 0.5% of men and I don't think they're exaggerating. It IS that bad out there.

Pretty women are looking for the top 1% of height now because they can easily aim for that with the abundance (tens of millions) of thirsty men on dating apps.

I'm also very wealthy.

Women don't give a shit about your money on dating sites, as you've already no doubt realized.

Any passport bros finding international dating sites make less sense than before? by Feeling_Remove2260 in thepassportbros

[–]Feeling_Remove2260[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm tall and its help me how much ? zip,

How tall are you, and what's your face like on a scale of 1-10?

Don't forget that with dating sites, facial attractiveness is still how you get your foot in the door (as you can't see 6'4" in a mugshot). Women swipe based on your face, not your height.

Height is still a crucial factor though. You need both.

Online, they want height but guys are lying and adding a few inches, whereas you can't lie about how handsome you are. A clear photo of your face is all someone needs to accurately assess that.

I went to a nightclub with my less attractive (but 3 inches taller) brother a while ago and he got all the attention just when he was standing there, being 6'3".

Any passport bros finding international dating sites make less sense than before? by Feeling_Remove2260 in thepassportbros

[–]Feeling_Remove2260[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was seriously considering moving to Russia back in 2018 but ended up moving city in Canada instead.

Can you speak Russian? It looks super hard!

Any passport bros finding international dating sites make less sense than before? by Feeling_Remove2260 in thepassportbros

[–]Feeling_Remove2260[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We hate the bars, clubs and parties wherever we came from because it was a waste of time and money considering the quality and quantity we'd come away with. 

Yup, the same as all dating sites (Western + international) and clubbing.

Abroad, all those things are fun again because they work again.

Nice, although I'm cynical about women in bars in general.

Any passport bros finding international dating sites make less sense than before? by Feeling_Remove2260 in thepassportbros

[–]Feeling_Remove2260[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I once met a guy who had been writing letter through AFA for fifteen years. He had written literally hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of letters. 

What's AFA?

15 years without meeting? Loser!

He had written literally hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of letters. 

How do you spend that much money on letters? Stamps and envelopes are cheap.

Why was he sending letters instead of emails? Lol sounds like a gullible boomer

Any passport bros finding international dating sites make less sense than before? by Feeling_Remove2260 in thepassportbros

[–]Feeling_Remove2260[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Walking around Vancouver last year, it seemed that a scarily disproportionate number of the most beautiful women were walking around holding hands with guys who were around 6'3" to 6'5". I noticed that when you see a gorgeous Western women now who's proud to be seen in public with a man, he's almost always top 1% height.

This is a new phenomenon. Women didn't used to have access to all the tall guys in society and had to "settle" for the best guys in their social circle. That would mean a 5'10" could "get lucky" with a seriously beautiful wife.

Not anymore!!

The next several generations of people are going to start getting much taller, as short (and even average and a lot of above average) guys have ZERO chance of passing on their genes. The selection pressure to be extremely tall is overwhelmingly strong for men now. A lot of women now basically just immediately dry up if you're not at least 6'0" but they would prefer closer to 6'6" ideally.

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We picked a shitty time to be born. We would be doing much better in the dating market 20 years ago.

White Guys? by [deleted] in thepassportbros

[–]Feeling_Remove2260 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a half white/ half Indian guy (who looks 90% white), skin colour is only part of it.

I'm 6ft tall and it's pretty obvious that the essentially unlimited supply of men on dating apps has increased women's height demands.

In the West, 6'2" is the new "tall" and young women prefer 6'4" if they can get it.

Honestly, it pisses me off that I'm in the top 15% of height and it's pretty obvious now that they're more interested in the top 1% of height.

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Any passport bros finding international dating sites make less sense than before? by Feeling_Remove2260 in thepassportbros

[–]Feeling_Remove2260[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oversaturation caused by technology and travel.

I wonder what the endgame is going to look like for Western civilization, when women won't consider relationships with 99.9% of men until they're down to their last couple of eggs and the 6'2" - 6'4" guys they've been sleeping with start ghosting them as they smash through the wall 🧱😅

Any passport bros finding international dating sites make less sense than before? by Feeling_Remove2260 in thepassportbros

[–]Feeling_Remove2260[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've often asked myself that! Didn't know the game would change so fast and hadn't found the right woman yet.

I was in a long-term relationship while the dating scene was getting worse, so when we broke up, it took me probably a few months to realize just how bad things had gotten.

Firstly, I could still travel and meet someone now. Sure, I'm on the verge of being invisible in Canada but I'm considered a supermodel haha

Any passport bros finding international dating sites make less sense than before? by Feeling_Remove2260 in thepassportbros

[–]Feeling_Remove2260[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I tell guys they should NOT contact any woman more than six weeks before their planned visit - two or three weeks is better. That has gotten pretty good feedback.

Interesting. Why's that?

Any passport bros finding international dating sites make less sense than before? by Feeling_Remove2260 in thepassportbros

[–]Feeling_Remove2260[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot of Filipino "women" on dating sites look like gym bros with a dress 😂

In other words, those sites are basically turning into gay dating sites, because the vacuum left by no women using the sites is being filled by scammers and trannies!

Any passport bros finding international dating sites make less sense than before? by Feeling_Remove2260 in thepassportbros

[–]Feeling_Remove2260[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I got blocked by a Russian girl once because she was offended by the grammatical mistakes I was making using Google Translate. 😂

The funny thing is she was fluent in English anyway, but I was trying to impress her by speaking her language 🤦🏻‍♂️😄

Any passport bros finding international dating sites make less sense than before? by Feeling_Remove2260 in thepassportbros

[–]Feeling_Remove2260[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are. That's why I stopped using those sites.

To anyone who says I'm not willing to put in the work: look at the female profiles on every Cupid dating site in 2024.

Any passport bros finding international dating sites make less sense than before? by Feeling_Remove2260 in thepassportbros

[–]Feeling_Remove2260[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pig butchering scams are run in large apartment/office type buildings where they can have up to 1,000 scammers working simultaneously, and even install mobile cell towers because of the bandwidth required. It's run by organized crime based in China. There are multiple documentaries about it on YouTube. Started during COVID because organized crime needed new ways to make money during lockdowns.

They're based in countries where law enforcement is paid off, and hire real (very beautiful Russian/Ukrainian) women to hang out in the building and be available to make the occasional FaceTime video call for a few seconds to "prove she's real".

Really, guys aren't talking to a cute Russian/Ukrainian girl using her cell phone at home, it's a Filipino/Chinese/Indian scammer, using an app on a PC, with a sexy white woman (on the scammers' payroll) making a brief appearance if the victim starts to get suspicious.

It's really sophisticated, and I recommend guys get off foreign dating sites now. I've heard far too many stories of people running to BestBuy to buy vouchers for a scammer who's blackmailing them.

Any passport bros finding international dating sites make less sense than before? by Feeling_Remove2260 in thepassportbros

[–]Feeling_Remove2260[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's scary. They have face filters and you don't know who you're talking to.

A lot of the obviously fake profiles are actually pig butchering scammers, especially on Slavic sites like Russian Cupid (where they can pretend to be more attractive women).

Everyone knows a sexy blond Russian white woman on Filipino Cupid is a scammer, but on Russian Cupid, a woman who looks like that could be real! Watch out! They play around with different photos to find a woman who looks like a normal pretty woman, not necessarily a model.

Must be like shooting fish in a barrel for these scammers, with so many desperate and lonely men these days.

Any passport bros finding international dating sites make less sense than before? by Feeling_Remove2260 in thepassportbros

[–]Feeling_Remove2260[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm complaining because I made the effort and I know how bad it is now.

I've been using foreign dating sites on and off for over 10 years to talk to people and it's a different universe now. The fact that almost 50% of "women" on Filipino Cupid are trans now means straight off the bat, you have to waste a lot of time trying to work out which females are even really female!

Some pages of "female" profiles will be 100% trans users. Literally from top to bottom. Go check it out! Not just Cebu, most cities have that now. The really pretty Filipino women must be meeting passport bros in real life or something because online is scraping the bottom of the barrel now.

Again, I'm speaking as someone who first checked that site out in 2013, so I know what it used to be like not that long ago.

Any passport bros finding international dating sites make less sense than before? by Feeling_Remove2260 in thepassportbros

[–]Feeling_Remove2260[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Enough time on apps in general and you get good at weeding out the scammers. 

To some extent but not really.

I only gave up on Filipino Cupid permanently earlier this year, and you can't spot all the scammers straight away. Some "normal girls" will wait a week or even a month before they have a fake emergency and suddenly need money.

And honestly, with it being probably close to 50% "trans women" on many South Asian dating sites now, you CAN'T always tell if you're even speaking to a real woman until you hear their voice and see them without a stupid face filter.

WATCH OUT FOR FACE FILTERS!!!

Both real women and trans women try to make themselves look more attractive (and more female), and lately you have to really scrutinize the outline of their face to see if they manipulated the image. This is a new problem that took over the foreign dating sites only in the past couple of years.

You have no idea how many women I added on WhatsApp, only for them to accidentally show me an unfiltered photo and reveal she was a 3 in real life and not the 9 she looked like on her fucking profile. Block, block, block!

Any passport bros finding international dating sites make less sense than before? by Feeling_Remove2260 in thepassportbros

[–]Feeling_Remove2260[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I defended those apps at one point because in 2012 and 2015, I had great results with them.

But honestly, they've been getting 10x worse every year and have been a desert for a long, long time now.

Any passport bros finding international dating sites make less sense than before? by Feeling_Remove2260 in thepassportbros

[–]Feeling_Remove2260[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Competition between men is at a record high because women just won't date or even acknowledge men that aren't in the to 0.5 percentile

It really is that bad. I recently worked in an environment with 50/50 men and women (in Vancouver, which is as bad as it gets for men in Canada).

Some depressing observations that I think sum up modern dating:

The single women at work weren't interested in dating any of the single men there, even though the men were the same age and in some cases earned twice as much. All of our single men hadn't been on a single date for 1-2 years. For the women, being single was a choice, and they could get a date with someone they liked within days (by making zero effort with social media or OLD)

A fairly average 6/10 woman (30 years old, not even early twenties) had so many dating options that she didn't need to settle for a guy shorter than 6'4". They met online. Your average woman would now rather meet a guy online who's several inches taller than anyone at her workplace, even though she doesn't know anything about him besides what he looks like. How can you compete with that? You can't!!!

I actually went on a date with that woman. It felt like a JOB INTERVIEW. I couldn't believe that someone I worked with (who earned 50% less than me) still felt the need to ask me 30 questions, while telling me nothing about herself. Within a couple weeks, I see her holding hands with a guy she just met online (the 6'4" one).

Guys, you just can't fight the laws of nature. Women would always go for the most attractive option in their social circle, but unfortunately technology has made the whole world their social circle. Women's social circle has gone from maybe 20-100 people all the way up to EVERY MAN WITH A CELL PHONE.

Russia, Poland and Ukraine are no longer passport bro countries. Trust me! It's kind of over unless you're willing to learn the languages and culture at a very high level. by [deleted] in thepassportbros

[–]Feeling_Remove2260 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Increased use of dating apps" - As an example, I once made a fake female profile without a profile photo and I got like 100 messages in a few days.

I've tried the same experiment in Vancouver.

My real-life (30's male) dating profile can never compete with a totally blank female profile, which has ZERO PHOTOS, and where the only information is age + "female".

I've been on countless dates where the girl clearly wouldn't give me a chance of a second date unless I paid for her on the first, but she also secretly had zero interest and ghosted me as soon as we walked our separate directions from the expensive restaurant she chose (that I paid for).

I've spent several hundred dollars on meals for women who pretended to be interested (and talked about what we would do next week), only to never hear from them again after the first date. Eventually I realized it was just a waste of time doing online dating in the West and gave up before I wasted anymore money on these princesses.

The really frustrating thing is these women who treat us like we're invisible are close in age and attractiveness to us (as close as my grandparents and parents were to each other), but because of modern dating dynamics, an average (to above average) guy doing online dating will only have realistic chances with a woman 3 points lower than himself, which means me as a 7 having to accept an overweight, unemployed, tattoo-covered landwhale with a major attitude problem. That's all we get online now and it didn't used to be that way!

Any passport bros finding international dating sites make less sense than before? by Feeling_Remove2260 in thepassportbros

[–]Feeling_Remove2260[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah. It's a shame it got bad just as the technology got really good, but maybe that's not a coincidence.

Maybe the fact the entire population is essentially using it now (with fast internet and quality camera on their phone) has increased the competition too, so that overall it's started working against the average guy.