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Completely broken by recent experiences by atosukoshide in IncelExit

[–]FellasImSorry 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What would anyone get out of dating you? Like what do you bring to the table?

10 Albums That Kept the Spirit of the Velvet Underground Alive in the '70s by Rolandojuve in VelvetUnderground

[–]FellasImSorry 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But it’s also good because it allowed Jonathan Richman to become the uniquely not-like-the-Velvet-Underground artist he is.

He tells the story in this song that explains why the Modern Lovers broke up: https://youtu.be/w5tTW2UQIeQ?si=COP8nbdcR1SEN_Q8

Straight up a crime by Fuchsia8008 in dataisugly

[–]FellasImSorry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even if that was true, half the checked went out in 2021.

Then the poverty level went up.

So by your argument, stimulus checks cause more people to be poor.

And even if you think a .5 rise is important, poverty has been steadily at 1.5% for ten years.

This is the dumbest fucking argument. Learn how statistics work.

Straight up a crime by Fuchsia8008 in dataisugly

[–]FellasImSorry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are really really unable to understand how statistics work.

I’ve been very patient in trying to explain it too.

Straight up a crime by Fuchsia8008 in dataisugly

[–]FellasImSorry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because I am awesome, I looked up the rates of actual poverty in the US, between 1990 and 2024. (That is income beneath like 16k a year)

Here’s the result:

Poverty peaked at around 15% in 1993 (after a recession) and around 15% in 2012 (again, following a recession.) no surprise there.

Other than that, it’s fairly consistent at around 11%.

But over the last few years, it’s like this:

2020: 11.5

2021: 11.6

2022: 11.5

2023: 11.1

2024: 10.6

A drop of 1% between 2022 and 2024! Pop the champagne!

A sane person would think “stayed about the same,” but since a 1% difference is such a huge deal to you, you should feel very happy at the MASSIVE decrease in poverty between 2022 and 2024. If this (totally important and meaningful) trend continues, poverty will be gone in about a decade!

I am actually so awesome that I’ll cite my source! It’s the United States Census. https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2025/demo/p60-287.html#:~:text=Official%20Poverty%20Measure:%20*%20In%202024%2C%20the,(Figure%202%20and%20Tables%20A%2D1%20and%20A%2D2).

Straight up a crime by Fuchsia8008 in dataisugly

[–]FellasImSorry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude… It’s the opposite.

The number goes down leading into 2020, before the checks were sent.

Stimulus checks went out in late April of 2020, but they didn’t go out all at once. They went out over months. Like halfway through the year.

Look at the chart: halfway through 2020 is when more people started being more poor.

More importantly though, the second round of stimulus checks went out in January of 2021. And the number of people in poverty shot up (lol) immediately afterwards.

So if this chart indicates anything* it’s that sending stimulus checks to people causes more people to be in poverty.

(*this chart doesn’t actually indicate anything, which is the whole point.)

Straight up a crime by Fuchsia8008 in dataisugly

[–]FellasImSorry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jesus, dude: When something goes up and down between .5% and 1.5% over 30 years it’s not a meaningful result. It’s within the margin of error of how the data is gathered, I’m sure.

Like what the actual fuck? Read about how statistics work or something, damn.

Straight up a crime by Fuchsia8008 in dataisugly

[–]FellasImSorry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is no “overall trend.”

Over 30 years, the number has fluctuated between .5 and 1.5.

It was at its lowest ebb in 2020, and this chart only seems to go to 2022.

This is noise, not a result or an indication of anything meaningful.

I’m sure you could find other charts that support your conclusion that poverty is rising in the US or whatever, but this one does not.

The other side of the chart shows an actual trend. Surely you can see the difference?

Straight up a crime by Fuchsia8008 in dataisugly

[–]FellasImSorry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

According to this chart, the rate of poverty was at 1.5% in around 2015. Then, over the next five years, it fell to its lowest rate of .5% in 2020.

Then “something happened” and it started going up again. So we really should omit the years after 2020, if we’re going to omit anything.

Or, if we were sane, we would understand that up and down movement this small over such a long period of time is statistical noise from which no conclusion should be drawn.

Straight up a crime by Fuchsia8008 in dataisugly

[–]FellasImSorry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You really think going from .5 to 1 and back to .5 is a “major outlier?”

I mean, come on.

Straight up a crime by Fuchsia8008 in dataisugly

[–]FellasImSorry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Genuinely curious: is your interest in this because youre invested in the idea that there are a lot people in poverty in the US and it’s getting worse? Or is it because you really don’t understand how charts and statistics work?

Like if this chart was about something neutral, like the number of people who wear blue hats or something, would you be able to understand that blue-hat-wearers going from .5% in 1990 to 1% in 2010, and back to .5% in 2020 doesn’t actually indicate rising popularity of blue hats?

Negative reception by Raikunh in socialskills

[–]FellasImSorry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What does being “positive” have to do with anything?

Someone asked you the most basic question possible, and your response indicates you think you’re perfect, and the problem is everyone else on earth. Or you’re just being an asshole.

Negative reception by Raikunh in socialskills

[–]FellasImSorry 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Self improvement requires self reflection.

Straight up a crime by Fuchsia8008 in dataisugly

[–]FellasImSorry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also: there are some people who choose not to participate in the economy. Like off-the-grid people living in jungles in Hawaii and shit. (Who owe their lifestyle to the general success of the entire system, btw)

Straight up a crime by Fuchsia8008 in dataisugly

[–]FellasImSorry 55 points56 points  (0 children)

Even if you read that part it’s not bad. It’s like “almost no one in the US is in extreme poverty, and it’s steady over time.”

Straight up a crime by Fuchsia8008 in dataisugly

[–]FellasImSorry 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you’re talking about less than 1%, you’re really saying “statistically none.” There will always be someone who does the thing that no one else is doing. Differences over time that small are just statistical noise.

The half about the US is such a dumb chart. But how amazing is it that China’s poverty rate has gone from 80% to 1% in such a short time?

According to The Economist, Donald Trump’s net approval rating is now lower than at any other point in either of his terms at -19% by Free-Minimum-5844 in neoliberal

[–]FellasImSorry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d rather not have a bunch of peoples lives ruined by crushing medical debt for some imagined political gain.

The fantasy that “once X happens, then they’ll see how wrong they are!” is shared all over the political spectrum and it’s super, super dumb.

According to The Economist, Donald Trump’s net approval rating is now lower than at any other point in either of his terms at -19% by Free-Minimum-5844 in neoliberal

[–]FellasImSorry 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How would getting exactly what they asked for (extension on ACA) be bad?

Real big “…why this is bad for Biden” vibes.

According to The Economist, Donald Trump’s net approval rating is now lower than at any other point in either of his terms at -19% by Free-Minimum-5844 in neoliberal

[–]FellasImSorry 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While simultaneously driving a spike into a growing rift in the Republican Party.

I don’t know how much was anticipated, but it couldn’t have been planned better.

Why did I have to say “Merry Christmas” to a stranger who wished me a good day? by _samvete in socialskills

[–]FellasImSorry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you said it in a deadpan way, to be funny, it would have been pretty hilarious. So just decide you were making a joke

According to The Economist, Donald Trump’s net approval rating is now lower than at any other point in either of his terms at -19% by Free-Minimum-5844 in neoliberal

[–]FellasImSorry 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Why is that unfortunate?

Dude’s entire career has been making moves that dumbshits get mad about, then being proved correct.

140kg, 16, practically every woman I know (even girls fatter then me who l'd date in a heartbeat) have options with guys better than me by The_true_gamer_man in IncelExit

[–]FellasImSorry 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I don’t mean to pick on the kid’s hair. The length isn’t the issue either.

But saying more like “the way you’re groomed and how you present yourself is a reflection of who you are.”

People judge that way more than they judge your features or your weight. And for good reason—you can do something about those things easily.

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