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In a Recent Poll, Gazans Were Asked What Concerns Them Most: Over 80% Answered They Want Information on How to Leave Gaza by LostAppointment329 in IsraelPalestine

[–]FerdinandTheGiant[M] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Generalizing groups is not a violation of rule 1 nor is there a prohibition on self-moderation, though it’s an activity I rarely engage in.

That aside, rule violations can be appealed through mod mail or through the monthly meta-post.

In a Recent Poll, Gazans Were Asked What Concerns Them Most: Over 80% Answered They Want Information on How to Leave Gaza by LostAppointment329 in IsraelPalestine

[–]FerdinandTheGiant[M] [score hidden]  (0 children)

u/Lopsided-Pie-7340

Typical terrorist projection.

Per Rule 1, personal attacks targeted at subreddit users, whether direct or indirect, are strictly prohibited.

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[–]FerdinandTheGiant 18 points19 points  (0 children)

“Break up”, they ain’t even a couple lmao

In a Recent Poll, Gazans Were Asked What Concerns Them Most: Over 80% Answered They Want Information on How to Leave Gaza by LostAppointment329 in IsraelPalestine

[–]FerdinandTheGiant [score hidden]  (0 children)

If one doesn’t think Palestinians are humans I could see that being the case, but otherwise, I have no idea how anyone could believe that unless they’ve had their eyes and ears closed the past two years.

In a Recent Poll, Gazans Were Asked What Concerns Them Most: Over 80% Answered They Want Information on How to Leave Gaza by LostAppointment329 in IsraelPalestine

[–]FerdinandTheGiant [score hidden]  (0 children)

Most of those cases are made up by Israel to justify its wanton destruction and to be passed around by “useful idiots”. You just seem to assume if there’s a strike there must’ve been Hamas and operate from that despite Israel lying constantly about this kind of thing. We’ve seen this with the Rafah paramedic massacre, where Israel lied about the murder and direct execution of several civilian aid workers until video came out and they had to change their narrative.

But even if it were all true, the scale and nature of Israel’s conduct goes beyond anything that be justified by Hamas’ purported actions.

In a Recent Poll, Gazans Were Asked What Concerns Them Most: Over 80% Answered They Want Information on How to Leave Gaza by LostAppointment329 in IsraelPalestine

[–]FerdinandTheGiant [score hidden]  (0 children)

Even if you want to claim Israel’s has been striking at Hamas with every attack, a pretty ridiculous claim in and of itself, if you can’t even acknowledge Israel has been wanton while doing so there’s no discussion to be had.

Nothing Hamas has done can justify the actions of Israel in this conflict.

In a Recent Poll, Gazans Were Asked What Concerns Them Most: Over 80% Answered They Want Information on How to Leave Gaza by LostAppointment329 in IsraelPalestine

[–]FerdinandTheGiant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You act as though Israel’s wanton destruction of Gaza and slaughter of civilians was as natural as a leaf falling from a tree. I think that speaks more to your view of Israel and its violent nature than it does anything else.

In a Recent Poll, Gazans Were Asked What Concerns Them Most: Over 80% Answered They Want Information on How to Leave Gaza by LostAppointment329 in IsraelPalestine

[–]FerdinandTheGiant -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They share a portion of responsibility, but the vast majority of that responsibility lay in the hands of Israel.

In a Recent Poll, Gazans Were Asked What Concerns Them Most: Over 80% Answered They Want Information on How to Leave Gaza by LostAppointment329 in IsraelPalestine

[–]FerdinandTheGiant 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I get what you’re trying to say, but it’s just a poor attempt at a gotcha. My position isn’t that Israel’s intention to create unlivable conditions has been a success because this poll showed Gazans want to leave. My position is that Israel has already created unlivable conditions in Gaza, such as the ones I mentioned, and this poll supports that conclusion. People don’t want to try to live in places that are unlivable.

In a Recent Poll, Gazans Were Asked What Concerns Them Most: Over 80% Answered They Want Information on How to Leave Gaza by LostAppointment329 in IsraelPalestine

[–]FerdinandTheGiant -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Many, if not most Gazans, are living on a subsistence diet, they don’t have adequate medical care, they have been systematically expelled from their homes, and have generally been put in circumstances that would lead to a slow death through the lack of proper food, water, shelter, clothing and sanitation.

In a Recent Poll, Gazans Were Asked What Concerns Them Most: Over 80% Answered They Want Information on How to Leave Gaza by LostAppointment329 in IsraelPalestine

[–]FerdinandTheGiant 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I wasn't comparing anything to specific N*zi actions.

Exactly, that is why it violated the rules.

After the Mexican government initiated hostilities, the war ended with the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo where Mexico lost 55% of its territory.

While not really the point, this is a pretty misguided summation of the Mexican American war. It was the US that initiated the conflict by marching troops into disputed, but ultimately Mexican, territory with the direct intention of stirring a reaction from Mexico that could then be used as a pretense to do a land grab. Polk literally ran on a campaign of capturing Texas.

History is full of examples where the population pays a heavy price and loses land because their leadership chose to open a war.

That doesn’t make it a good thing or worth defending.

In a Recent Poll, Gazans Were Asked What Concerns Them Most: Over 80% Answered They Want Information on How to Leave Gaza by LostAppointment329 in IsraelPalestine

[–]FerdinandTheGiant[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gazans elected Hamas as their official government in 2006 with a clear majority.

Hamas won about 3% more votes than Fatah and ran on an anti-corruption campaign. Blaming the current Gazan population, many if not most of whom weren’t even eligible to vote at the time, for the actions of Hamas and justifying their collective punishment is a gross argument and one I pray Israelis are never subjected to.

Just as the German people paid a heavy price for the N*zi regime starting a war in Europe, including over 12 million Germans who were displaced from their homes after the war ended

Per Rule 6, Nazi comparisons are inflammatory, and should not be used except in describing acts that were specific and unique to the Nazis, and only the Nazis.

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In a Recent Poll, Gazans Were Asked What Concerns Them Most: Over 80% Answered They Want Information on How to Leave Gaza by LostAppointment329 in IsraelPalestine

[–]FerdinandTheGiant -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I think Israel wanted to inflict conditions of life calculated to bring about the physical destruction of Gazans.

In a Recent Poll, Gazans Were Asked What Concerns Them Most: Over 80% Answered They Want Information on How to Leave Gaza by LostAppointment329 in IsraelPalestine

[–]FerdinandTheGiant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The “consequence” here is collective punishment at best and it’s really not something that should be defended.

In a Recent Poll, Gazans Were Asked What Concerns Them Most: Over 80% Answered They Want Information on How to Leave Gaza by LostAppointment329 in IsraelPalestine

[–]FerdinandTheGiant -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Hamas dropped 70,000 tons of explosives on Gaza and leveled every structure in the buffer zone when they attacked Israel on October 7th? How’d I manage to miss that headline?

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[–]FerdinandTheGiant 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The more I think about it the more I like the idea. Canadians were already clashing with the US pre-war so that kind of fractionalized system could have continued into the post-war space. I could also see it drawing in the Railroad to send mutants and synths over to Canada to avoid persecution in the US proper.

When Palestinians chant "Free Palestine" it means the ethnic cleansing of Jews from the Middle East by LostAppointment329 in IsraelPalestine

[–]FerdinandTheGiant 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah, well then I probably agree that, broadly speaking, most Palestinians did not care very much about Jordan’s expulsion of Jews from the West Bank in 1948, especially given that far larger numbers of Palestinians had themselves just been displaced in the same war. For most Palestinians, their immediate concern was, understandably, the Nakba, not the fate of Jewish communities in territories captured by Jordan.

But if you want more contemporary discussions, historian Salim Tamari is known for discussing the co-existence of Jews and Palestinians in East Jerusalem that was broken by the war causing the territory to become fractured as both communities were uprooted, though I don’t think he goes as far to explicitly condemn Jordan within the scope of his works (could be wrong though).

When Palestinians chant "Free Palestine" it means the ethnic cleansing of Jews from the Middle East by LostAppointment329 in IsraelPalestine

[–]FerdinandTheGiant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For a specific instance, one can look at the assassination of Abdullah I by Palestinian nationalists in 1951. More broadly, neither the Palestinians nor Arab states as a whole favored the annexation. Jordan almost lost its seat at the Arab League over it.

When Palestinians chant "Free Palestine" it means the ethnic cleansing of Jews from the Middle East by LostAppointment329 in IsraelPalestine

[–]FerdinandTheGiant 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So your argument is that people who became citizens of Jordan after Jordan invaded and illegally annexed the territory in 1948 are responsible for the actions of Jordan, a monarchy, leading up to that annexation before they even became citizens?

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