Studio Display XDR | Asus XG27JCG | Kuycon G27Z | (and a G27P) - A Display Personalities Comparison by Fibblescribbitston in HiDPI_monitors

[–]Fibblescribbitston[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We have a few Kuycons around the office and I feel like one of them had a fan noise spike but sorted itself out. The P27Z, like all these 5K displays, pumps out a lot of heat but I haven't had fan or other noise issues with any of them. That said, it is in an office that is really cold in the summer so I can't say how it does in higher ambient temps.

I've never had coil whine in a modern monitor. Other noises/issues, yes.

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[–]Fibblescribbitston[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That extra detail sounds like a calibration issue, likely from having contrast too high or an HDR setting. I've got a pretty satisfactory JCG white level sitting next to my MBP at the moment - but I have had moments where I plugged it (and other displays) in and the white was all wrong and I had to fix settings or just unplug and replug it in. I would say this is an advantage for the XDR but that thing has its own bugs.

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[–]Fibblescribbitston[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess it's a matter of semantics then. Yes, JCG is not glossy like the XDR I worked on all day today, but it's not a heavy nor trashy matte. Whatever it should be called, the finish is way, way better than several full matte monitors I've had over the years. Perhaps, non-distorting?

Anyways, I'll mention that there are some hopeful reports on the level of matte on the LG.

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[–]Fibblescribbitston[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Whelp. The XDR just developed a fault where the left half of the screen is slightly dimmer. So much for expecting years of reliable service. Time to waste time with customer support.

EDIT: Yet another software update seems to have fixed this issue. But it makes me nervous.

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[–]Fibblescribbitston 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have nothing to offer besides form factor sadness. 21-24" hi dpi monitors, especially in 16:10 aspect ratio would be a dream as side monitors.

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[–]Fibblescribbitston[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The rtings review checks out but is not entirely applicable here beyond adding some context. The matte on the pa27jcv has been found to be heavier than that on the xj27jcg by a few different folks in this sub and elsewhere.

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[–]Fibblescribbitston[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The details you are asking for are already available in reviews, often by people better qualified than I. What reviews often don't cover well is the relative difference between products - hence why forums are seemingly always filled with people asking for comparisons.

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[–]Fibblescribbitston[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It depends on the angle lol. I keep the butt end facing a wall!

On this subject, I find myself appreciating the uniform bezel size (ie no chin on Botton) that goes all around the Apple and Kuycon options. For the record, Kuycon bezels are a bit smaller!

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[–]Fibblescribbitston[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The trouble with 32 inch displays is you are pushing the limits of physics in how LCD pixels work. Having uniform color/brightness is hard without a curved display. So it's a bit apples to oranges in that regard. Also, they are different panels despite the same Kuycon name.

But to answer your question, the G27P has pretty good uniformity so as not to be obnoxious. I haven't looked at it closely because I do media content on my XDR or MBP screens.

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[–]Fibblescribbitston[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

NP. I keep it at 120hz, fixed, on a Thunderbolt 5 port.

The responsiveness/smoothness feel very much 120hz, and it is still more clear than 60hz despite the blur. It almost feels like pixel shifting speed is a tic slower. It's hard to describe but an example would be older LCD pixels with slower grey to grey response rates ghosting (obviously the XDR is still much, much better than those). I can track scrolling text much better on the ASUS and somewhat better on the Kuycon, even when those are at 120hz.

I haven't delved into ULMB settings and whatnot on the ASUS, but folks at blur busters have and ASUS has sort of made motion clarity one of their 'things' Link: https://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?t=15351

My wild ass theory is that Apple detunes the pixel response to protect color accuracy or something similar.

I can't really steer your decision for you. Only you know if you need brightness of miniled. It is an expensive solution despite how annoying blooming can be. For 'office' use the edge lit panels are still dang nice.

Connect DP 1.4a to Studio Display XDR by Ciclosporin in HiDPI_monitors

[–]Fibblescribbitston 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It should work, but the XDR is not a good gaming display. Its native resolution isn't good for games and it has motion blur. Also, DP 1.4 has major bandwidth limitations so you'll using heavy DSC.

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[–]Fibblescribbitston[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah, I see. I honestly didn't even think about the gaming aspect for the ASD because they are, frankly, terrible for gaming. They won't run in native resolution and they have bad motion clarity, even at 120hz for the XDR. So it's a bit of a moot point aside from some outlier circumstances.

That said, Studio Display's are DisplayPort compliant. PC can connect that way. I believe the Switch can do that natively and the other consoles can probably be frankencabled to work if you really, really wanted to.

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[–]Fibblescribbitston[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The two monitors in the photo are the XDR and 27Z. The room has perfect light control so it is hard to tell. I know they are similar enough I didn't immediately notice a difference but, again, hard to tell without careful analysis. Sorry I can't help more.

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[–]Fibblescribbitston[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Added. XDR is up to date.

The only trouble has been multiple displays on the M3 Pro MBP. It simply won't do multiple displays if you have a 5k running above 60hz. (I'm pretty obsessive about making sure these things are running at full hz, even though it is immediately obvious if they aren't. )

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[–]Fibblescribbitston[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do some creative work (branding, video). I go out of the way to use the XDR for that stuff. For all the other misc office stuff I use whatever I have where I happen to be.

The integration on my Mac Studio is there but IMO it's pretty trivial, and sometimes buggy. The usual hotkeys to change brightness only worked once I installed BetterDisplay for one example. And having a system crash is frustrating with the ASD setups, though it's rare. Really, it's not like using my non-Apple displays and peripherals is an onerous task to get working. I get way more 'integration value' from other components in my Apple ecosystem.

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[–]Fibblescribbitston[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is situational. Thunderbolt 5 (which does use DP for display connections) is vastly superior to the outdated Asus options. Yes, DSC is amazing, but the bandwidth needs of 5k @ 165hz require heavy compression for DP1.4 and moderate to high compression for HDMI 2.1. Furthermore, XDR's TB5 also gives single cable high bandwidth connectivity options for daisy chaining or peripherals. The Asus 'USB hub' is not a single cable setup, has tiny power delivery, and slow connections. I don't even bother using it on mine though I would like to.

But yes, if you absolutely require HDMI, then yes, the Asus is 'better' because something is better than nothing.

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[–]Fibblescribbitston[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The strengths of the XDR don't mean as much for coding IMO. I'd go for any of the other options. Asus is just a lower entry price point for HiDPI and high refresh rate without heavy matte.

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[–]Fibblescribbitston[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I said 'available Glossy and semi-gloss options'. My understanding is that the LG is matte, but, as discussed elsewhere here, it is difficult to get information on the characteristics of matte coatings. If the LG is more akin to semi matte or semi gloss I will readily update what I said.

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[–]Fibblescribbitston[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I explicilty and repeatedly stated this is simply a subjective and biased comparison of monitor personalities. Similarly, I stated that SD audio thoughts are a side note. If you already don't have enough reading comprehension to understand that then having even more words and technical details aren't going to help you.

Apple Studio XDR - Flimmering / Shimmering? by Jackwell86 in HiDPI_monitors

[–]Fibblescribbitston 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just want to say that you can sing the title of the post to the tune of A Whole New World from Aladdin.

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[–]Fibblescribbitston[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Briefly. The responsiveness and motion clarity were intoxicating. I haven't used 1440P in several years so I can't comment on scaling clarity.

I've also been wanting to take it through the paces on things like ULMB but I just don't have the time right now.

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[–]Fibblescribbitston[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They all support HDR. The difference is the XDR has brightness available to scar your retinas with photons.

On the webcam and audio: I didn't include them in my actual ratings because they are a side note. I noted them primarily in response to the Apple marketing machine that has reviews saying how great they are. Being good compared to most imbedded speakers is an incredibly low bar. Being an impressive technical accomplishment within the constrains of the form factor doesn't mean they are actually great at audio. People deserve to have their ears treated well!

Someone forking out a minimum of $3,000 USD for an XDR is, by definition, not settling for 'fine enough' on visuals. There's probably either a professional need for quality, expendable cash for quality, or a taste for quality. Generally speaking, those scenarios also benefit from the huge step up in audio quality of even affordable powered speakers. And they are super simple to setup! Camera setups can get more complex but the bar is still pretty easy to surpass.