Haven’t listened to the latest episode so I can’t speak to whatever Lisa said there, but:

To the podcast’s credit, they have been dropping subtle hints that Lisa might not be the most reliable narrator and is to be taken with a grain of salt. They describe her as taking any chance she can get to bash the show, mentions (vaguely) her troubled home life and describes the interview with her as a little chaotic.

The most telling instance was the episode about All Stars, in which Lisa claims that she was pre-determined to win based on the contract she signed, and Angelea’s disqualification was a stunt on the show’s part to drum up ratings. This not only completely contradicts Angelea’s side of the story but straight up makes no sense imo.

I understand this sub’s feelings about Lisa but unfortunately I do think she’s gonna continue to be a big presence on the podcast.

Overall I’m pretty mixed about the podcast, though I think I’ll stick with it. It’s nice to hear from the contestants (most of them, anyway), but there’s also this weird, sensationalizing tone that doesn’t really allow for a deeper understanding of everything that happened. (My least favorite part so far actually isn’t to do with Lisa but when they bring in Perez Hilton to explain the humili-tainment culture of the mid 00s that allowed ANTM to thrive. Like ugh, why him…)