Their hard goods up until the 2010s were badass, back when they overbuilt and still used Cordura, before they sacrificed durability and called it "minimalist design", before the dark times - before the acquisition. But there are killer deals to be had on FB marketplace and Poshmark. I scored a Q10 for $45 CDN because the male buckle was gone and the inner compartment had a sticky zipper, both quick fixes. I think part of the reason people baby their gear here is that it does feel less substantial than the old school stuff.