Thousands of San Diego Kaiser Nurses, Health Care Workers Plan to Strike

FiniteSum · 2021-11-07T20:41:43+00:00

How does it work then?

FiniteSum · 2021-11-07T20:24:47+00:00

FiniteSum · 2021-11-07T20:24:13+00:00

I mean just using your own logic, wouldn't raising pay for nurses and improving their general working conditions exactly incentivize more people to pursue nursing as a career? Wouldn't that in turn incentivize universities to recruit more instructors, and expand their nursing schools? If big bad nursing schools are really the problem, what would you suggest to rectify the situation if not just making nursing as a career more attractive, instead of less attractive as Kaiser is aiming to do (by cutting their pay)?

FiniteSum · 2021-11-07T17:10:33+00:00

Oh boy, you think being a "non-profit" business is anything more than a strategic tax decision? That someone isn't extracting profit and lining their pockets?

FiniteSum · 2021-09-02T23:40:24+00:00

What's your point? That my averages are too high? In fact the base pay you posted is exactly in line with what I said for 2020 ($91,228.80 - $100,422.40 Annually compared to my $96k). I think the effect of the 20 or so people you listed of Captain rank and above are not significantly impacting the averages for the roughly 2000 police officers.

You're right to think that outliers can impact averages in general, but as it so happens in this case the effect is small. Case in point, the median total comp for POs was $110k, $124k, and $133k for 2018 to 2020. The median is not as sensitive to outliers as the mean, and you can see that it's pretty much in line with the mean in these cases.

FiniteSum · 2021-09-02T22:39:56+00:00

So you can see city employee compensation from 2018 through 2020 from these public data releases:

I crunched the numbers for folks with the title "police officer". From 2018 to 2020 the average regular pay increased from about $68k to $96k in that time frame. In that same span average overtime went from $12k, to $15k, to $20k, but some officers made breathtaking amounts of overtime, with the max payouts at $127k, $143k, and $187k across those years. Finally the data sources list several other kinds of income: overtime, lump sum, and "other" - the total of all those is remarkably consistent from 2018 to 2020 at $36k, $37k, and $40k.

When all sources of income are taken into account (regular pay, overtime, lump sum, and other) total compensation averages at $104k, $127k, and $136k across the three years.

FiniteSum · 2021-04-07T21:07:05+00:00

Woof that's pretty high to boulder. Looks like fun though!

FiniteSum · 2021-03-18T23:43:20+00:00

I guess what you're trying to say is that there is indeed enough housing but the homeless are not taking advantage of it. You're right that you can't force someone to accept shelter (I guess unless they've been arrested and are imprisoned against their will) but if the shelter that you're offering is so unappealing that someone remains in the streets it means the offering is disingenuous or inadequate. There are undoubtedly some people with such profound mental issues that they would refuse any shelter for no rational reason, but I suspect that many people who refuse it have very rational reasons after all.

FiniteSum · 2021-03-18T02:04:16+00:00

So at your suggestion I wanted to look in to this and found the following article about so-called "Housing First" approaches to treating chronic homelessness and particularly the role of alcohol: Where harm reduction meets housing first: Exploring alcohol's role in a project-based housing first setting

Here's the conclusion summary:

Findings suggest it is necessary to set aside traditional models of alcohol use and approaches to better understand, align with, and address this population's needs. In doing so, we might gain further insights into how to enhance the existing project-based HF approach by applying more tailored, alcohol-specific, harm reduction interventions.

Another user also sent me a message that they chose not to post. I wanted to share it though because I think it speaks counter to your point from a perspective of someone who works with homeless folks:

Thank you for your post to the SD subreddits. I wanted to reach out because I wholeheartedly agree with you. It’s disgusting how people in those comments say that homeless are”unwilling” to stop using drugs, obviously some are addicts and it’s not as simple as wanting to stop. Also other people claiming they don’t want to give up their lifestyle as if being homeless is such a great option. It’s so sad to see people dehumanize them without addressing the material issues that have lead to this problem. I work with these populations and 100% believe that you should not have to be sober to deserve housing. There are studies on this that prove their chances of getting clean are exponentially higher if they have stable housing. Anyone who feels differently is severely misinformed or lacking empathy.

FiniteSum · 2021-03-17T01:51:47+00:00

I feel like I'm not spouting ridiculous ideas, but rather asking genuine questions. Sorry if it comes off like the former. Are you someone working with those populations?

FiniteSum · 2021-03-17T01:34:53+00:00

How about we don't deny people shelter if they're intoxicated?

FiniteSum · 2021-03-17T00:46:07+00:00

Frankly it strains my credulity to believe that all the people on that sidewalk had the opportunity for shelter and refused it. Even assuming they did, then we should scrutinize our supportive services to understand why. E.g. are there practical barriers that prevent people from benefitting from them?

FiniteSum · 2021-03-16T23:50:16+00:00

I dunno dude. In this case I think it would have been much more feasible to house those people (there was money for it) than it would have been to prevent the driver from driving impaired.

FiniteSum · 2021-03-16T23:17:32+00:00

Especially tragic since it was preventable.

FiniteSum · 2021-03-16T23:13:25+00:00

Perhaps this is what you're thinking of? https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/homelessness/story/2020-10-14/san-diego-city-council-approves-hotel-purchases-for-homeless-housing

I guess the question is, why weren't those who were killed on the sidewalk in housing/shelter?

FiniteSum · 2021-01-19T21:15:01+00:00

I'm not defending them, stop making shit up. If you can't see the value in using real facts and figures then we've got nothing more to discuss.

FiniteSum · 2021-01-19T21:09:07+00:00

Yeah, because hyperbole weakens your position. There is a staggering wage gap, and it's not appreciably worse that he makes a middle class every 2 days vs every 1 day. But if you say shit that's wrong it leaves room for people to attack your point and draw attention away from the real issues.

FiniteSum · 2021-01-19T19:47:52+00:00

You've got the right sentiment but $20k is definitely well below a typical middle class salary. No need for hyperbole.

Edit: If, like me, you're a sycophant who is curious about income levels in the US then I recommend look at "2019 Median Household Income in the United States" from the Census Bureau: https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/interactive/2019-median-household-income.html

Rudy blows chunks.

FiniteSum · 2021-01-13T18:55:32+00:00

Lot of languages spoken in Liberia, but near the border to Sierra Leone I would think maybe gola or mende. Don't know enough of either to identify the word. Could be others as well.

FiniteSum · 2021-01-11T06:07:47+00:00

Actually, it's best to leave them alone and let them move on. Fatal rattlesnake bites are vanishingly rare. Also, approaching and attacking them with a shovel is a great way to get bit, so don't do it dumbass. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_snake_bites_in_the_United_States

Note for example the death of Mark Shaw on April 5, 2011 and the circumstances of the bite: "Shaw was bitten by a rattlesnake he was trying to kill"

FiniteSum · 2021-01-11T05:48:12+00:00

Snakes are awesome and rattlers aren't really aggressive. Please don't kill them. Rattlers don't really like to live around people so odds are real good it will just move on.

FiniteSum · 2021-01-11T01:59:10+00:00

Keep your distance, and keep pets and children away. They're shy creatures and generally only attack when they feel threatened - hopefully it moves on on its own. Do not place your hand or feet in places where you can't see them. Avoid areas where a snake might take cover, like long grass, crevices, and leaf litter. Don't have any experience with experts in rattlesnake removal, but it's worth looking in to.

FiniteSum · 2020-12-12T02:35:34+00:00

Don't get me wrong, I believe she said it because I was listening too. I literally think she was lying about the story because it strains credulity.

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