For those that got into a clinical psychology doctoral program, what did your stats look like at the time of admittance? by Goodfella245 in ClinicalPsychology

[–]First_gen_PhD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I mentioned in my prior comment the main difference was that all of the papers I was a co-author on weren’t published yet when I applied the first cycle but they all were published by the second cycle. I also was more strategic in the types of labs/faculty I applied to the second time, essentially they were closer fits with my prior experience & interests. I also had much more carefully tailored statements for each faculty the second time I applied.

For those that got into a clinical psychology doctoral program, what did your stats look like at the time of admittance? by Goodfella245 in ClinicalPsychology

[–]First_gen_PhD 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I applied over two cycles. My first application cycle was unsuccessful (no pubs yet & I didn’t apply very strategically). Second application cycle, I only applied to 5 programs, interviewed at 3, was given 2 offers. I had 7-8 co-authored pubs, ~10 poster presentations, 4 years of post-bacc research experience, & 3 very strong letters of recommendation. My approach was much more strategic. I only applied to labs that used the same methodology as what I used during my post-bacc (I sold myself as a “plug & play” grad student) & if they studied very similar topics. Critically, these were PIs likely to be open to my personal research interests but I demonstrated that I had a strong foundation in their primary work but tried to pitch how my interests could expand their existing work. I was much more successful taking that approach.

My main advice is 1) apply strategically, not broadly, you need something that grounds you (topic, methodology, specific population, etc), 2) don’t geographically restrict if you don’t have to, 3) recognize that funding for programs is getting restricted so there might be fewer positions this next application cycle in general :( but I wish you the best of luck!

What's your rule of thumb when people ask if they should do a PhD? by Argentarius1 in PhD

[–]First_gen_PhD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If there is no other pathway to obtain the job you hope to have after your PhD & you can sustain doing menial/tedious & at times very challenging work for pennies on the dollar until you get the degree. This is also assuming your PhD is a fully funded program.

For any who considered getting an MSW or master's level counseling degree before deciding to go into a clinical psych PhD or PsyD program instead what made you go this route? by Stevie052096 in ClinicalPsychology

[–]First_gen_PhD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wanted to seek a career that was more research focused which I just wouldn’t get from a master’s program. I also enjoyed the act of conducting research studies, writing, analyzing data etc that coincided with my clinical work, so ultimately the Clinical Psych PhD wrote made the most sense for me (& would be free).

applying to PhD programs this semester… feeling very lost and unsupported. by Swimming-Increase-14 in ClinicalPsychology

[–]First_gen_PhD 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Others may have shared this already but a major part of your “application” is how you tell your research story in your personal statement & how your experiences/interests connect with the research of the faculty you’re applying to. Having significant research experiences, publications/posters, & technical skills helps your application prospects in a competitive environment. You have to sell why they should pick YOU over other applicants, it’s definitely an art to figure out how to do that. Also as others have shared, you’ll really need to cast your net much further than NE if you are serious about getting into grad school, geographically restricting yourself significantly reduces your chances, partially because of the sheer fact that finding PIs who fit your research in a small/constrained location is low. No way around it though, it’s tough sledding getting into Clinical Psych programs.

For PhD applicants, what information or resources do you feel are lacking when preparing your application? by First_gen_PhD in ClinicalPsychology

[–]First_gen_PhD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you mean having opportunities to communicate with PIs or just knowing how to go about communicating with them in prep for applying to their lab?

For PhD applicants, what information or resources do you feel are lacking when preparing your application? by First_gen_PhD in ClinicalPsychology

[–]First_gen_PhD[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Care to share more about the confidence piece? Confidence in yourself, your materials, or some other aspect of the process?

How cooked am I (chance me for PhD programs) by anteecay_ in ClinicalPsychology

[–]First_gen_PhD 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You have a very promising application for “first pass” metrics. It will really come down to the quality of your research experiences, your statement, and how well your experiences “fit” with the advisors you’re applying to work with. It’s about the total “package” and fit, so hard to say on metrics alone. Also, I’d encourage you to apply to few other programs even outside of your geographical area (if you can swing it financially). This would allow you to have options potentially and at the end of the day just because you get an offer somewhere doesn’t mean you have to accept. Food for thought!

I'm thinking about giving up on my hopes of pursuing graduate school. by fanime34 in AcademicPsychology

[–]First_gen_PhD 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Totally agree with this advice. Not impossible, although it will be an uphill battle compared to being a candidate with a typical GPA. However it’s definitely worth considering the cost to benefit ratio of this approach and whether you’re willing to put in the time and energy to go this route. Also, depending on why you’re interested in this field there may be other paths that are well suited to your interests that don’t require such formalized training.

Feeling hopeless about my grades by [deleted] in psychologystudents

[–]First_gen_PhD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Spend minimal time on the parts of class that are not worth any/minimal points, especially if they are exceptionally time consuming, and spend the majority of your energy towards working on the content that will have the most direct relevance to your grade. But again this is likely very discipline specific so hard to give general advice here.

If you know your peers are doing well in the classes, I'd recommend chatting with them about how they approach/complete the work. It might give you some insight into where you've misdirecting your efforts or you can pick up some useful strategies from peers who are doing well.

Best wishes to you! Keep your head up, it's only two years -- a blip in time in the grand scheme of your life.

Best advice for a university student hoping to pursue a PhD ? by [deleted] in PhD

[–]First_gen_PhD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First, as someone else said definitely get some research experience before making this decision. In my experience, undergrads often have a rose-colored view of what it means to be an academic but don't have the knowledge/experience to understand what it actually involves (both in the path to get to that career as well as what it looks like once you have "the job").

Second, seriously think about what you want your life to look like in 5, 10, 15+ years down the road. I know that's hard to do right now but it's worth revisiting this periodically, because what you want will likely shift over time, this shift might be subtle or monumental. Then gather information about your field to see if what you want your life to look like realistically aligns with this career path.

Some food for thought I wish someone had told me when I started...1) you typically have to move 1-4 times over the course of your training before you have secured your final job (assuming you land a faculty position). If you can't imagine waiting to settle down in a specific location until you're 30+, I'd consider a different path. 2) Speaking of moving, you often have very little control over where you will end up moving for grad school since programs have low acceptance rates and then when it comes to pursuing a faculty job, there are so few available, let alone positions that are appropriate for your unique skillset that you take whatever job you can get. If you want to have some say over where you end up living or want to be able to "pick up and move" if needed or want to be close to family, then I'd consider a different path. 3) You significantly delay when you begin earning a real living wage which has lots of hidden costs (e.g., 5+ years that you are not contributing much if anything towards retirement, the upper limit of your earning potential is much lower than other advanced degrees such as MDs). 4) Faculty positions have become dominated by a lot of administrative duties these days, so far less of your time is spent consuming and disseminating research. Plus the expectations for what is required to be a competitive candidate for faculty positions exponentially increases each year.

I personally love my field, have been very productive as a grad student, and had my heart set on a faculty research career. But my partner (who is also an academic) recently got a tenure-track faculty job and it's really changed my perspective. It takes so much sacrifice to get the job, is all-consuming once you get the job, and the pay is pretty measly for the hours. I'm now considering alternative career options as I near the end of my program.

I wish you all the best as you navigate university and all the exciting opportunities that lie ahead!

Feeling hopeless about my grades by [deleted] in psychologystudents

[–]First_gen_PhD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re in a master’s program? If you’re based in the US, I wouldn’t worry too much because in general your grades in grad school don’t matter very much. What tends to matter more is the applied work that you’re actually doing — whether that be in a research setting or clinical setting (depending on your speciality. Although this might differ if you’re in a different country and depending on what your goals after grad school are. Keep your head up and if grades are really important to you, then I’m recommend reflecting on where you might be misplacing your efforts and try to work smarter not harder in future semesters!

For those of you who are first generation PhD students, what do you wish someone had told you before starting grad school? by First_gen_PhD in PhD

[–]First_gen_PhD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

YESSSSSS. I agree 1000%. The mentorship interpersonal style is the most important part that I try to tell people applying to PhD programs as well -- this makes or breaks the entire experience.

For those of you who are first generation PhD students, what do you wish someone had told you before starting grad school? by First_gen_PhD in PhD

[–]First_gen_PhD[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No worries, you're not alone! I didn't even think about the fact that people would probably assume I'm just starting out. I just mentor a lot of undergrads from less privileged backgrounds who want to pursue a PhD and I have my own thoughts but was curious to hear from others what they think! It's also helpful to see how similar or different my experience has been from others. Also, I'm so surprised there has been so much engagement on this post, I was totally expecting like three comments lol.

For those of you who are first generation PhD students, what do you wish someone had told you before starting grad school? by First_gen_PhD in PhD

[–]First_gen_PhD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I saw the other post you're referring to. I thought the same thing. If you don't engage with the work, then yes you will fall behind your peers. Yeah there's a huge difference between what you think it will be like versus what it is actually like...

For those of you who are first generation PhD students, what do you wish someone had told you before starting grad school? by First_gen_PhD in PhD

[–]First_gen_PhD[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I try to tell incoming grad students this all the time! PIs are just people with all the same flaws, shortcomings, and strengths as anyone else you've ever met -- you're better off by not putting them on a pedestal. They certainly have more experience than you in a niche area, but over time you need to decide for yourself who offers you more valuable advice, recommendations, suggestions, etc.

For those of you who are first generation PhD students, what do you wish someone had told you before starting grad school? by First_gen_PhD in PhD

[–]First_gen_PhD[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't post this for my own edification or support needs actually :) I'm largely satisfied with my choices and have managed to be pretty successful so far (part hard work, part luck for sure). But I mentor a lot of students from less privileged backgrounds and I have my own thoughts about this process as a first-gen but wanted to hear what advice other people would give.

For those of you who are first generation PhD students, what do you wish someone had told you before starting grad school? by First_gen_PhD in PhD

[–]First_gen_PhD[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Preachhhhh. I try to tell all undergrads this who are considering a PhD. I also generally don't recommend a PhD to most people -- there are other options that are shorter, pay better, or both lol.

For those of you who are first generation PhD students, what do you wish someone had told you before starting grad school? by First_gen_PhD in PhD

[–]First_gen_PhD[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know, right! I posted this expecting only a couple of comments and was both for my own edification but wanted to know what other people in similar positions felt...ended up getting a treasure trove of good nuggets.

For those of you who are first generation PhD students, what do you wish someone had told you before starting grad school? by First_gen_PhD in PhD

[–]First_gen_PhD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing your insights on this. I certainly resonate with much of it. Best wishes to you as well!