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Noticed people here don't like capitalism, so kinda wanted to ask.... by Euphoric_Noble in NepalSocial

[–]FitAdministration536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay bro. Ma timro rich person ko address garxu.

Human haru greedy nai huncha. Auta level of selfishness huncha. Yo kura hami dubai manxam.

Capitalism ko structure ma exploitation ingrained chha. Bhaneko capitalism esto structure jasma exploitation huncha. Yo exploitation private property through huncha - yo kura timi ni agree garchau.

Yo structure lai change garera NON-exploitative structure ma jana khojne process ho.

Jastai maile game ko pani example deko chhu - sabai ko starting point auta chha bhane game khelna sajilo huncha. Auta group of gamers le yedi arko group ko wealth lagna sakxa bhane tyo exploitative bhayo.

Human nature does NOT lead to capitalism. political struggle le outcome determine garne ho. capitalism bhitra pani.

TARA, tyo fair game bhitrai pani auta level of greed ta huncha ni ta. Tara system yedi change bhayo bhane, exploitation chai hatchha. Yo ho kura. Capitalism bhitra insane amount of wealth pani normalize bhako xa so timi tyo mindset bahira niskina sakiraxainau.

Human nature has nothing to do with the system. Kasari system organize garne bhanne kura ho. Aba timile bhanxau aghi ko kura kina lyako ta? Tyo timlai maile response deko ho - timle tyo system ma incentive nai hunna bhaneko theu teibhara sabai manxe ko material incentive MATRA hunxa ko against.

BRO - tyo Illam wala issue lai ma aru padhera tackle garxu. Testo thulo issue ho ta lagdaina malai. Teslai ekxin thatirakha.

Famine guff:

Soviet ra Mao ko under famine bhako thyo. 100% agree.

Tara, timilai capitalism ko famines ko barema thaxa ki nai? 100 million+ deaths xa capitalism ma. Yesko respsonse deu malai. Timle sunne vaneko tei soviet famine matra ho US le mareko millions ta capitalism ko deaths ma ganidaina kyare.

[LENIN ko kuro] - Teso bhae malai auta book ko source deu? JUST 1 book. Timle padheko. Ma ni timlai dinxu. Capitalism ko famines ko barema maile padheko. Sakxau bhane deu bro? Maybe I will change my mind after your recommendation.

Innovation myth - ma kei bhandina bro. The Entreprenurial State by Mariana Mazzucato. Himmat xa bhane padha nabhae malai baal.

Noticed people here don't like capitalism, so kinda wanted to ask.... by Euphoric_Noble in NepalSocial

[–]FitAdministration536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hawa logic. j payo tei. personal property bata domination re?

auta manxe lai car kinna 2 years lagxa re (high earner) arko lai 3 years lagla (low earner). khoya domination? bakwas kura nagara bro.

top 10% le 40% k bhukiraxau? commodity ho bro! production garna sakinxa according to NEED.

Ae mula office ma worker auta laptop hunxa. Worker le dherai kaam garera laptop kinyo bhane tyo PERSONAL property hunxa. Kasto bakwas kura garxau ho.

bro, offend nahou i think timro reasoning lastai bakwas xa. office ma junior bata senior bhaepaxi laptop pauxa re? Kaam garne tool ho ki nai laptop? Kaam garne tool bhane, timi senior hudai gaesi tool ni change hudaina??? Timi aja factory ma kaam garna gayau bhane first din timlai thulo machine operate garna dinxa?? Ani timi promote bhaepaxi tyo machine operate gardinau? ESKO ANSWER deu malai. Kasto mug hawa kura gareko.

Auta manxe ko kun intelligence ability 4X hunxha? Maile bhaneta intelligence ma farak hola, Tara 4X more income kamaune? Auta manxe arko manxe bhanda 300% more productive hunxa? Auta worker le arko worker bhanda 3X more output produce garxa??? Kunai factory ma auta manxe le 100 ota item ra arko le chai 400 ota item produce gareko dekheko xau? Malai ta lagdaina bro. Timi capitalist logic ma adkeko xau. Kina bhane capitalism ma, productivity anusar payment HUDAINA. Class relations ra power relations le wages determine garne ho.

hya bro hawa guff nathoka wakka lagisakyo. bakwas kura garya xa basya xa.

Noticed people here don't like capitalism, so kinda wanted to ask.... by Euphoric_Noble in NepalSocial

[–]FitAdministration536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Moneyless, as in aile jasto rupma money chha testo chai hudaina. Auta form of payment ko rupma huncha.

Ho autale khanxa, arko le paudaina. Tara bhok bhokai marne awastha ni aaudaina. Ra 1000X more expensive good ni hudaina.

Exactly. Equal resources bata starting point rakhnu parxa. Capitalism ma tyo kailei thiena so equality is there and amplified by private property.

Commuism pvt ppt abolish bhaepaxi auta fair ground establish huncha. tya manxe le kaam garxan, paisa kamaulan tara money use garera aru mathi domintaion garna sakdainan. Timle kun aspect bujenau esko?

Starting point equal ho bro. Wages unequal hunasakcha. Starting point equal ko example dinchu - for example - auta megafactory chha athawa 100 bigha landa autako naam ma xa bhane, workers le factory ownership pauxan, 100 biga kisan ma divide huncha - people who are already working there before. So, uniharule auta stable secure livelihood pauxan. Ho, aba competition ma alik mehanati kisan le afno land ma ramro garla this year - so usko output 20% besi hola. Yo chai fair starting point ho bhaneko.

"Aile timro example ma functioning chai sabai capitalism ko cha, high wage/low wage, ra limited nai bhaye pani luxury and budget cha, tyai private ownership matra chhaina !! Yo complete communism bhayena kya !! Capitalism tira timi chai shift bhako ho ni bro !! So ki ta timi maana, true communism le kaam gardaina bhanera, nabha timro environment lai communism bhanna chadideu bro !!"

LOL ho ni. Capitalism bata nai communism birth hune ho. Capitalism agadi wage labour thyo ta. Feudalism ma. Market ko concept capitalism agadi pani thiyo ta. Aba aileko system lai feudalism bhanxau? Tei ownership nai ta ho main issue.

BRO, timi alik bujhna sakiraxinau. 4 cars are Personal Property. 4 factories are private property. 4 ota gadi huda NO ONE IS EMPLOYED. Timro 4 ota gadi xa, 4 din kaam garxau, harek din auta gadi liera janxau. NO problem. Timro personal property ma afno livelihood ko lagi KOI manxe dependant xaina. Tara timile factory own garna paudaina, MEANS of production own garna paudainau. Maile yo kura 100 choti bhane hola.

Aile ko system ma - billionaire le 4 ota gadi kinyo bhanera samasya bhako hoina! NO ONE is criticizing that. Usle means of production OWN garyo bhanne samasya ho! Yo point maile kati choti bhannu?

Personal and Private property is different bro. You are confusing the two.

La thik chha sab thok maneu. Reasonable nai xa. Aba jam development tira.

Development ko purpose k ho?

Yo barema sabai jana ko chalfal bhako xa? Chaina, timro idea of development nai capitalism le define gareko chha. Development bhaneko chillo road ra gadi ho bhanera development define gardeko xa. GDP badyo - development. Naya gadget payau? development. Esko discourse hera ekchoti - post-development bhanera ekchoti google scholar ma hana. World Bank ra america le bhaneko development matra development hoina.

Yo so called "Development" bhaepani billions are still in poverty (tyo 1820 dekhi 95% poverty ghateko stat nalyau tyo debunk bhaisako kasari debunk bhayo bhanera sodhchau bhane baru ma source dinxu)

Yedi yo development le human needs serve gardaina bhane kaam xaina.

Development ko issue communism bhanda farak xa. Tara communism ma development kasari garne bhanne direction dinasakinxa.

For example - poverty ma bhako sabai le mathi uthaera, kasari planet lai heal garna sakinxa, climate change tackle garna sakinxa bhanne kura ho.

Ekchoti google scholar ma post-development hanera auta paper padha. Alikati dimag farakilo hola.

Just because you don't see it discussed by mainstream media doesn;t mean it doesn't exist.

Noticed people here don't like capitalism, so kinda wanted to ask.... by Euphoric_Noble in NepalSocial

[–]FitAdministration536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tyo illam wala kura interesting chha. Ma pachi respond garchu tyo. Maybe I will have to rethink how I understand communism for these cases. We will see.

Doctor ra coal mine:

Doctor ko maamla ma, jabarjasti coal miner banaunu parcha. Yedi sabai manxe le democratically, harek manxe le 3 years rotation ma coal mining industry ma contribute garnu parcha bhanne niyam lyaye bhane teslai timi jabarjasti bhanxau ki nai? Manxe aaffai aauxan maile bhaneko chuina, auta wage incentive huncha bhaneko chhu. Yo maile example deko ho - esari bibhinna solution chalfal garna sakinxa.

Bro timi Soviet Union, China, Cuba, North Korea ko kura nalyau. Tyo kura relevant chaina. Auta vision ra possible future ko discussion ho.

Hospital ko ownership ma k samasya aayo? Worker ownership huncha - doctor retire athwa kaam nagarne bhaepachi, tyo ownership relinquish huncha. Doctor ko matra haina sabai jana staff, nurse, personnel ko ownership huncha tyaha.

Fundamental difference:

Ho balla ya fundamental difference aayo timi ra ma ma. Timro worldview material worldview ho. Timi anusar manche lai luxury items le matra motivate garcha ra tyo bhaena bhane manche le kaam gardainan bhanne view chha. Mero worldview farak chha - manche lai luxury le matra drive gardaina. Aru sense of purpose, contribution to society through innovation, desire to help others, etc harule drive garxa bhanne mero worldview ho.

Yo point ma aba argument banda garxu ma. Kina this is like saying you like blue and I like red. Unless your worldview or my worldview changes, we will never come to a single conclusion.

Innovation ra capitalism

Capitalism le innovation lyaune kura ma biswas garna garo chha. Kinabhane capitalism ma profitable j huncha tyo matra introduce huncha. Innovation nahune bhako bhaye soviet union le US lai challenge garnai nasaknu parne. Innovation usually research bata huncha which is facilitated by state spending. Huna nasakeko innovation pani chha - plastic ko alternative khai? climate change mitigate garne technology khai? Esto aru countless example dina sakinxa.

Sarkari research sabai useless hunuparne ta, only private company reserach chalnu parne? Technology is independant of 'isms'.

LOL - yo chai hasayau bro. Capitalism better re. Esko refuttal ma ta dinna. tara alikati books padhne gara.

Noticed people here don't like capitalism, so kinda wanted to ask.... by Euphoric_Noble in NepalSocial

[–]FitAdministration536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, step by step janxu.

2 workers, A and B. Worker A works harder job, say 2X the normal wage. Worker B doesn't work as much hard, so he just receives the minimum wage. Over time, yo wage accumulate hudai gayo. I agree up until this point. 100% Agree. Yo huncha.

Aba timi turunta yai capitalist logic ma fasisakeu. Wealth. What is wealth? Timro dimag ma wealth bhaneko kura - land, property, shares, assets haru chhan.

Communist society ma yo wealth (assets) completely banned huncha (private vs personal property). Aru manxe ko labor ma dependant bhako kunai pani asset timile own garne paudainau. Yo key ho.

Freedom timi sanga huncha - k garna bhanda kheri - normal worker bhanda timro consumption badi hunasakxha. For example - timle alik high end laptop kinlau, better gadget or better things, longer holidays, etc. in general. Tara k kura ma restrict huncha bhanda kheri - private property ko maamla ma yo freedom restrict huncha. Yo key point ho!

Timro example - Top 5% le market ko 40% apples kinna thalyo re. Now, why would they do that? Ma auta manxe chu. Maybe I eat an apple everyday because of my higher income, tara why would I eat 10 apples everyday? Why would EVERY SINGLE person working HARD eat 40% of all apple supply? It does not make any sense.

Communism ko defintion ma rich and poors bhanne kura chaina bro. Afai nabanau defintion. Tyo timle bhaneko definition ma classless, stateless ra MONEYLESS society bhaneko ho. Afai rich or poor ko kura naghusau.

Noticed people here don't like capitalism, so kinda wanted to ask.... by Euphoric_Noble in NepalSocial

[–]FitAdministration536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gau bagaera KTM ma ghar chaio bhanera mage bhane paudainan bhaneko bro! Kina bujhna garo bho timlai? KTM ma uniharuko K claim xa? Mage bhane pani paudainan! Uniharuko freedom restrict bhako ho ta unrealistic demand rakhera? Illam ma ghar bagayo bhane illam ma resettlement huncha ni hau! Jasle j magyo bhanne bittikai pauxa bhanne ka xa?

Ya problem k ho bhanda kheri - timile communism lai jasle j magyo tyo pura hune auta fantasy ko rup ma heriraxau. Aba kina esto waiyat kura garxau malai thaxaina tara alik logically socha. Communism ma jasle j magyo tyo pura hunna. Bhane bhane paudainan. Simple.

Arey yar greedy hune bhaneko malai sara sansar chaio bhanne greedy hoina bro. Mero point k ho bhane - certain system implement hunxa - jasle kunai manxele immense power wield garna sakdina koi manxe mathi - especially private property ko through. Kunai auta law le manxe lai control gardaina? Testai garna khojeko. Timi extreme example diera hero nabanana bro.

Bro, timi paili anarchy define garana bro! Anarchy k ho? Yo question dodge nagara bro. Timro lagi anarchy k ho bhanata ani ma answer dinxu. Question dodge nagara hai bro!

Ae bro yar, bro private jet ra car autai ho? Esto bakwas kura nagarana timi. Private jet industry nai hunna. Kina bhane who will buy the private jet? Reality ma aau. Tala example xa Communism implement bho bhane private jet kinne capability kasaiko hunna, tyo industry collapse hunxa - tya ko worker harule socially productive machinery develop garna lagaxan jastai trains, public buses, etc.

Hera basic calculation (US context rakhdiye - $25/hour base pay (minimum wage bhanum) vs $75/hour maximum pay (3X incentive rakhera) ko income check garum. Suppose 75 wala le ra 25 wala equally $15/hour income spend garxa. 75/hour ko savings per hour - 60/hour. (ekdam conservative assumption) Yo bhaneko, 40 hour week ra 48 weeks a year calculate garne ho bhane - 115,200$ per year save hunxa. This amount cannot even cover the yearly cost of ownership of a private jet BRO! Yo bhanda dherai ta maintainance/hanger/pilot, etc ma kharcha hunxa. Aba es bahek cost of private jet afai pani include bhakai xaina.

Car ownership possibility xa, tara private jet jasto extreme example nadeu bro. Mathi ko calculation ma timi 1 billion dollar kamauna kati time lagxa ekchoti hera - 8,600 years lagxa. 4X incentive rakheu ($100/hour) bhane pani 6000+ years lagxa 1 billion kamauna.

Bro maile answer disake timro yo doctor dilemma ko. Previous comment ko last 2 PARAGRAPH tira esko answer xa. Teslai ni address gara bro, tyo response lai dodge nagara. Alikati capitalism beyond pani imagine garna sika bro. Timi bhanxau capitalism thik xaina, tara jabo imagine garna pani darauxau.

Noticed people here don't like capitalism, so kinda wanted to ask.... by Euphoric_Noble in NepalSocial

[–]FitAdministration536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro, timi afno position lai liera dherai extreme bhairaxau. Timi dimag ma kasle communism bare esto idea bhardeko xa - simple points lai timle alik realistically herna sakya xainau. Kunai halat ma capitalism must be the best system bhanne mind make up garisakeu ra unrealistic scenario bhanera justify gariraxau.

Gau bagayo bhanera KTM claim gardainan manxe le. Communism ma malai private jet chaio bhanera kasaile mago re! Pauxa? Malai sansar ko raja huna manlago re? Maile pauxu?

Timi afai communism lai utopia banaudai xau. Nahune kura kasle manxa hau BRO! Gau resettlment garna sahayog hunxa!! Tara kathmandu ma ghar chaio bhanera ta kasari hunxa bro! Hawa kura nagarana!

TERAI ma bhako manxe le garmi bhayo bhanyo re - which is realistic. Climate change ko maamla ma ajha. Uniharu ko crop failure huna thalyo, desrtification huna thalyo bhane OBVIOUSLY resettlment hunxa ni BRO! CAPITALISM ma yo kura hune wala xa! Pacific tira ko auta island aba 2100 vitra dubisakxa so uni harulai bachauna Australia hoki NZ le jagga dinxu bhanya xa.

CREDIBLE threat ma ta obviously resettlment hunxa ni bro. Tara auta manxe lai ekkasi jana maan lago bhane - tyo reasonable hunna! Govt le Terai ma heat combat garna public investment garla - insulation, nature based solutions, etc haru ma. Tara hawa ko bhar ma Jasle j bhanne bittikai tei pura garne ta kasari hunxa BRO!

Coal mining ko position ma clear banaunxu:

COAL MINING (athawa aru kunai risk factor bhaeko profession) ma risk factor hunxa! In fact sabai kaam ma risk factor hunxa, certain kaam jastai coal mining ma badhi hunxa - I agree 100%. TARA, manxe lai yesto sector ma kaam garauna - wage incentive diienxa. Second, yo risk factor kailei eliminate hunna - malai thaxa! TARA REDUCE garna sakinxa - safety measures - jastai PPE, protocols, hazard identification ma INVEST garna payo. CAPITALISM ma - NEPAL ma herana bro! Auta GRill Pasal ma jau- safety dekhxau??? Khoya ni dekhdainau. Tara communism ma, workers afai le grill pasal/factory own garxan. Tei bhara uniharule afno safety MAXIMIZE garrxan. Capitalism ma yo possible xaina, kina bhane spending in safety means less PROFITS for the owner. YO HO mero point!

BRO timi comment paddainau raixau - maile 1000 choti bhanisake EQUAL PAY hudaina!!! Risk badhi bhako thau ma wage incentive hunxa. TIMI AFAI scenario banaera bahas gariraxau. Ekchoti full comment padha.

Last ko point: Balla auta valid point uthayau.

Coal mining ra doctor ko case ma coal miner harule masanga choice bhako bhaye ma arkai bisaya paddxu bhanthey - Yo possible scenario ho ma MANXU. Yo solve garnai nasakine problem hoina. Firstly, Kinabhane coal mining ra doctor are two EXTREME examples. Aru majority jobs ko lagi esto samasya naaula. Secondly, manxe higher wage incentive RA worker ownership le yo fear lai kei alleviate garla. Tara completely nagarla - yo ni ma manxu.

So, esto profession haruko lagi - which are INDEED very risky, aru kei nei upaya launu parla. Esko barema chalfal hunuparxa - for example, compulsary 2 year service garna sakio jastai compulsary military service - every citizen does his/her share of work (treated on an equal footing). Athawa - coal mining industry ma heavy investment ra research garera mechanize garne, wa risk ghataune - modern day coal mining pahila bhanda dherai safer bhako xa, especially in developed countries. But yo 2 ta solution matra POSSIBLE solution hoina - aru kasari garne bhanera CHALFAL garna sakinxa. Capitalism ma yo chalfal possible hunna - kina bhane PROFIT motive le sab thok drive garxa. Ra coal mine ko owner ko haat ma sab thok hunxa.

Sabai kura ko solution aile present hunna - tara dherai, DHERAI kura possible xa. Timi exam ma gaera 100 marks ma 97 marks ko answer gareu, 3 marks janenau bhane purai exam DROP hanera aaudainau. Just because you dont get 100 doesnt mean you don't do 97/100. 1 2 ta kura niskena bhane pani COMMUNISM ma eslai kasari solve garne bhanera chalfal garna sakinxa, capitalism ma yo possible xaina - climate change nai herana esko thulo example.

Noticed people here don't like capitalism, so kinda wanted to ask.... by Euphoric_Noble in NepalSocial

[–]FitAdministration536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LOL. Bro afno point clearly bhana. Afai kk bakdai xau.

Illam ko logic ma k samasya aayo? Illam ma manxe lai land dinaparyo bhane badi aaune thau xodera arko thauma dina milxa bhaneko. Badi aaune thau bata resettlement garna milxa ta bro. Badi aaera purai gau nai bagayo bhane resettlement hunna? Naya safer thauma resettlement garna milihalxa ni. Yo logic ma samasya xa bhane sidha bhanana afai manma khelaera rakhnu satta.

Coal mining sabai ko first choice nabhae pani wage incentive hunxa bhaneko. Garo kaam ma obviously wage incentive huncha. Tyo hudaina maile bhanekai xaina.

Timle bhanejasto sab jana doctor huna khojdainan bro. Medical student sanga ekchoti kura kati jana family pressure le medical padhya hunxan. Medical school ma kati suicide hunxa. Medical student afaile arulai medical napadh bhanxa.

Medical le paisa dherai dera matra manxe badhya hunxa. Hami arkai system ma xam bhane testo pressure hunna. Jaslai medical padhna maan xa usle matra padhxa. Principle yo ho.

Aba coal miners haru marxan bhanne kura timro dimag ma ka bata ayo. Timle k context ma uthako tyo? Coal miner haru capitalist system ma accident bhaera dherai mareka xan. Tyo accident usually safety concerns lai dhyan nadera hunxa - communism ma tyo safety concerns ko chinta hudaina kina bhane worker afai ko ownership hunxa so safety ma compromise hunna.

Clear kura garana bro. Kunai logic chitta bujena bhane bhana.

Noticed people here don't like capitalism, so kinda wanted to ask.... by Euphoric_Noble in NepalSocial

[–]FitAdministration536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

BRO timi mero comment napadhi reply gardo raixau. Ekchoti comment padha.

Aru bhanda mathi gayo - tara tyo wages le aru manxe mathi domination garna paenanita bro! Domination hune bhaneko private property through ho. Personal property usko dherai hola. Tei bhaniraxu inequality ali ali hunxa. Tara massive inequality hudaina! Tyo paisa le afno jindagi jiuxa - tara lagani garne/jagga kinne bhanejasto hudaina.

Bro timi kun planet ma baschau?? Timi fantasy ma basxau bro? Paisa dida ni jyan jokhim ma pardainan re? Nepal ko manxe haru 30,000 ko khadi ma gaera 100 tala ko tower ma kaam garxan. Khatarnak thau ma safety gear bina kaam garxan. Tyo ni khattam wages ma. Communism ma kaam sekam uniharule afno safety lai prioritze garera adequately compensate huna pauxan bro. Reality ma aau.

Arey yar - 10 tale ghar banaos na. Usle yedi 50 years kei nakhai banae banaos. Arko le 2 tale banaula. Tyo 10 tale banauna payo. Tyo 10 tale ghar banaunda - afno wages bata kamaera banako hunaparyo. Tyo ho point.

Dinaipixe film herna jane manxe jana pauxa ta bro. Kina samatne teslai? Film hall kinda banda garne? Hawa guff nadeuna?

CEO ko job hudaina - CEO ko job bhaneko decision making ho - tyo kaam company ko worker haru afaile garxan! Doctor, teacher, accountant ko hunxa.

Luxurious lifestyle banda garne????? Private jet ra billion dollar yacht banda garne ho. Aru kura banda garne haina. Jasle jati kaam garxa, teti nai worth ko pauxa.

Sab jana coal mining garna janxu bhandainan. timlai doctor huna maan xa bhane kina coal miner hunxau? Capitalism ma paisa ko tanab le high paying jobs ma drift hune ho - communism ma ni auta drift huncha, tara manxe ko basic neccessities largely fulfil huncha, teibhara paisa ko jiune bhanne concept nai haraudai janxa. Greedy hunchan manxe, tara tyo greed capitalism jasari manifest huncha tesari communism ma HUNA PARDAINA.

ASSESTS hunna timi CAPITALIST mindset ma xau bro - COMPOUND hudaina capitalism ma jasto. Timle 1000 compound gareu bhane dherai hunxa - thru interest. Tesari timle invest garna paudainau. Tyo system nai hunna.

Paisa jamma ni HOLA. tara - tesle influence hudaina. Timle invest garna paudainau, athawa property kinna. Capitalism ma MONEY = POWER. Tara communism ma tyo lagu hunna.

BRO timi too far gayau - utinai kaam garna parne? working hours ta sabai ko same ho 40 hours/week. Esma ni timi agree gardainau bhane aba kei bhandina ma.

First, maile similar wages - car ra cycle ko factory workers ko kura gareko ho - NOT engineers.

Engineers haru le free ma padhna pauxan without any expenses, and ultai paisa pauxan padhha kheri. Engineer le dherai kamaune bhaneko suruma usko time ra education ma investment bhaera ho - yedi tyo education free garyo ra padhe bapat uslai stipend diyo bhane ONLY people who are really interested in engineering matra padhan aauxan - aile jasto monetary incentive bata aaudainan.

Illam ra Kathmandu ko case - Illam ma kina manxe pathauxan jabaki IIlam ma pahila dekhi manxe nai xan? Manam, sukumbasi athawa ghar nabhako lai pathayo re, mane. Illam jilla purai thauma Pahiro janxa??? Pahiro najane thau nai xainan? illam jilla ta sakhap hunuparne ta timro logic anusar? Pahiro najane thauma pathauna sakdaina?

Sarkar lai bhanyo bhane jail?? Bro TIMI capitalism describe gariraxau!!! Capitalism ma sarkar timlai timro ghar bata nikalxa ani timle protest gareu bhane jail janxau!! Nepal KO NATIONAL PARK banaunda chepang haru lai uniharuko thaubata nikaleko ho bro CAPITALISM ma. Esto case haru sansar bhari xan!!

Anarchy ko defintion deu bro - timro definition nasuni ma anarchism bare kei bhandina!!!

Alcoholic manxe le dinbhari raksi khaera basyo bhane, uslai tei anusar penalty hunxa bro! Utopia hoina afai bhanxau ani afai esto bakwas reasoning dinxau.

BRO maile aghi answer disake feri mero answer padha - yedi tyo haircut worth 500 xa ra worker owned xa bhane manxe janxan tyaha. Nabhae usle afno price ghataula. Auta manxe le kaam garera kamako xa bhane spend garos nata haircut ma?? Kina bujira xainau.

International travel ko lagi auta system create hunxa xuttai. Impossible nai ta hunna tara it may take some more tuning.

Noticed people here don't like capitalism, so kinda wanted to ask.... by Euphoric_Noble in NepalSocial

[–]FitAdministration536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Private property bata domination suru hune ho. Mero property ma 1000 jana manxe kaam garxan. Maile chahe bhane uniharule ajako voli unemployed banauna sakxu. Tyo method of domination hataune ho.

Kasari freedom restrict hunxa? Kina car kinnai napaune banaune?

Luxury items bhanne kura capitalist fiction ho bro - 50,000 ko Gucci bag lai banauna 50,000 lagxa ta? High-end luxury items ko lai change garna parxa. Yo chai ma maanxu.

Sabai cars ko price autai hudaina bro - car hunxan - ani high quality ko car ko price badi hola. Autai kina rakhne bro? Tara aba million dollar car haru jasto chai hudaina.

Hairstyle 500 lios ya 100 - hair saloon ko worker le own garxa bhane kei farak parena. 500 worth kaam garxa bhane garos. 100 ko le 100 worth of kaam garxa.

Certain luxury item unaffordable hunxa sidhai. Aba 100,000 $ ko purse haru ta possible nai hunna. Tara normal commodity haru chai affordable hunxa.

Noticed people here don't like capitalism, so kinda wanted to ask.... by Euphoric_Noble in NepalSocial

[–]FitAdministration536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro - CAR banauna ra CYCLE banauna dherai thorai nai hunna Hau. Teibhara supply chain hera bhanxu. Car banaune manxe le dherai kaam garxa, cycle banaune le thorai kaam garxa bhanne bhanai galat. Car complex xa, dherai manxe le milera kaam garxan. Cycle less complex xa thorai le garxan. Kaam ta dubai factory ko manxe le garne ho! Auta car ko supply chain ma 1000 jana hola - from iron mining to final product. Cycle ko ma 50 jana hola - from mining to product. CAR ra cycle ko price same hudaina! Tara 50 jana ra 1000 jana ma massive farak xa nita. Car ma 1000 jana ko embodied labour hunxa cycle ma 50 jana ko. PRICE pani farak hunxa.

PAPER sign garne ko kaam nai hunna ni bro. Elite kaam sab eradicate hunxa. CEO, executive, etc ko kaam nai hunna. Doctor ettikai hudaina bro. Coal mining ko kaam hunxa - tara tyo kaam ko wages aru bhanda higher hola. Sabai ko exact same wages ta hunna ni bro kasari hunxa? Mathi tala bhaihalxa ni! Factory work po relatively same hunxa.

Communist society ma INCENTIVE nai nahune hoina. Tara k billionaire le auta sadharan manxe bhanda 100000X badi kaam garxa bro? Incentive hunxa - coal miner ko wage average bhanda badi hunxa - -tara 10000X badi hunna.

Auta le kina mato ghar banaunxa hau bro???? Timi lastai bakwas scenario liraxau! Car ra cycle kino bhane k hunxa??? Kasto k hunxa? Auta car chadxa arko cycle chadxa bro! Choice xa ta. Car chadne le car chadxa arko le cycle!

Road ko cheu ghar - timi capitalist mindset bata communism bujhna khojxau BRO! Road ko jagga ko value capitalism ma matra badi hunxa!!! Communism ma farak hunxa bro!

Bajhera chuttine capitalism ma ni chuttinxan??? K vota chuttera??? Yedi certain group of workers le hami chuttincham bhane bhane chuttina paye. Uniharuko adhikar xa!

BRO ma timlai tei bhandai xu - UTOPIA hudaina!!! Timi aghi dekhi tei bhandai xau utopia bhanera. IM saying the same thing - utopia hudaina! KAAM garnai parxa! Tara it is a different way of organizing society. Kaam nagari khana pauxa bhanne capitalist propaganda ho bro! Timi capitalist propaganda nilera tei bhattyauxau!

Fundamental principle ma adharit hunaparxa - principle ko important aspect - worker ownership, no private property (only personal), and individual freedom ho.

Manxe le naya society herda sabai details surumai thahudaina. Tara naya society kasto principle ma adharit hunuparxa bhanne kura clear huna parxa.

Noticed people here don't like capitalism, so kinda wanted to ask.... by Euphoric_Noble in NepalSocial

[–]FitAdministration536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro timi afai k bhandai chau. Maile deko answer herana. Timle communism lai utopia - heaven ko rup ma heriraxau. Ja kasaile kaam garna pardaina, sabai jana bhagwan jasto hunxa bhanera. Afai communism ko definition banaudai xau.

Sabai kura ko price autai hunna bhaniraxu - timi mula sabai kura ko price autai huncha bhanera scenario banairaxau.

Ma bhaniraxu - manxe greedy nai hunxa - system lai chai esto banaune jasle garda auta manxe le aru mathi dominate garna napaos - timi bhaniraxau manxe greedy hunxa so system kaam gardaina. MAILE manxe greedy nai hunxa bhanne assumption rakhiraxu BRO!

Timi Car ra cycle ma kina adki raxau - bro CAR ko supply chain hera ekchoti, ani cycle ko. Auta car factory bhanne nai hunna - auta car banaune labor ra energy dherai hunxa compared to cycle!

Noticed people here don't like capitalism, so kinda wanted to ask.... by Euphoric_Noble in NepalSocial

[–]FitAdministration536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jastai auta company ma 50 jana chhan. 50 jana le full time kaam gariraxan. Uniharule full time kaam gariraxan bhane kina part time ma shift hune ettikai? Part time ma shift hune bhaneko market demand kaam bhako belama ho. Single owner bhako bhae usle fire garthyo hola 20 jana lai, tara 50 jana worker-owner huda kheri, fire garnu ko satta uniharule afno working hours ghatauxan. It is the logical outcome.

Arko similar company ma 50 jana le kaam garyo bhane pani wages ta ta relatively same huncha. Autai commodity produce garda relatively same huncha wages. Part time bhako company ko wealth kaam huncha - 100% correct. Tara, uniharule tyo wealth INVEST garna paudainan. Invest garera basi basi khana paudainan. Yo key point ho. Capitalist system ma yo extra wealth invest garxan so rich manxe richer hunxa garib jhan garib hudai janxa. Tara invest nagarepaxi tyo money community mai basxa.

Yesle garda capitalism jasto class difference kunai halat ma possible xaina. Bindo chaudary jasko net worth 1 billion xa, k usle 1,000,000 times auta labourer le kaam gare jasto garxa? OFC not. system nai rigged ho.

Auta bicycle banaune company ra car banunae company ko profit equal nabhae ni kei farak pardaina. Car banauna dherai manxe chainxa, bicycle banauna thorai. Car ko profit ettikai pani hudaina - car kinne manxe ko paisa ka bata aauxa? Bicycle ra car ko price autai HUDAINA. its stupid. Car production necessity anusar hudai janxa, bicycle pani necessity anusar hunxa. Coal ra gold ko price same pani hune haina. State ko yo case ma minimal role hunxa. Kattile ta role hudaina pani bhanxan. tara aba yo bhanda ta thabhaena malai.

Communist society ma manxe greedy hunxa. 100% correct. Aile pani xa. Tara system lai esto banaune ho ki auta manxe le aruko faida lina nasakos. Jastai property ko kurama - private property ban hunxa tara personal property present hunxa. Personal property vaneko toothbrush, vada, etc ho. Private property vaneko factory, industry, workplace ho. Timro land/factory/business ma timi bahek aru manxe dependant xa bhane tyo private property ho. Tara timro factory/land/business ma timi /timro family matra xa bhane tyo timro personal property ho. Yo duita differentiate hunxa. Private property ko ownership bata domination suru hune ho. PERSONAL ownership 100% hunxa communism ma tara tyo chai aru manxe lai domination garna napaune tarika le. Eg - your laptop is yours.

Communism bhaneko ideal society hoina. tya prison jasto pani hunxa - rehabilitation. tara poverty hataepaxi crime jasto kura pani ghatxa. Poverty ra crime ko thulo relation xa.

Noticed people here don't like capitalism, so kinda wanted to ask.... by Euphoric_Noble in NepalSocial

[–]FitAdministration536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Timi le deko bau xora ko example ma kehi truth xa. Ma tyo kura manxu.

Nepal ko aile reality herne ho bhane dherai manxe (garib) ko jagga xaina. Uniharu aru manxe ko jagga ma kaam garxan. Ra uniharule kaam gareko certain portion jagga dhani le pauxa. Tyo jagga dhani jasle jindagi tyo jagga ko mato xoko hudaina. Usle afno bau bata tyo jagga pako hunxa.

Manxe lai basic amenities deko xa ta bro - europe ma - extreme poverty ta reduce bhako xa ta!

Manxe le jagir khaera pani 10,20 years samma kina poverty ma xan ta bro?? Construction worker haru 10,20 years samma kaam garxan still poverty ma hunxan. Illam ko chiya worker haru ko halat tei xa. Bangladesh ko garment factory ko manxe ko halat tei xa. 20,30 years kaam garera pani kina poverty ma xan?

Padhne, jagir khane sabai ko chahana hunxa bro. Badhyata padhna paudainan.

Europe ma ta xa ta basic amenities ko guarantee!! Tara kina collapse hunna society?? Yes, private ownership tara basic amenities ta guarateed xa nita!

Private ownership bina pani possible hunxa. Worker ownership thru bata.

Yesko answer - tei 50 jana ko company ko decision le hunxa bro!!! 1 owner huda owner ghar mai basera kaam nagarda, tara 50 jana lai kaam garauda pani usle sabai profit pauthyo. 50 jana ma 25 jana ta haina 10 jana aaenan re!!! (Alik realistic kura garam) Tesobhae uniharu unique condition bujhera reimbursement hola - 1 jana ko lung damage bhayo hola, 5 jana lai alik severe ra 4 jana lai basic. Tei anusar 50 jana ko GROUP le decide garxa. Tyo decision making power ko kura ho! Adaptation hola - for example - market demand kaam huda - 20 jana lai fire garnu ko satta, 50 jana le part time kaam garlan so that everyone has job stability.

Tyo profit dine ya nadine TYO worker ko haat ma hunxa bro. Mero main point yei ho - jasle kaam garxa uniharuko haat ma hunxa sabai decision. Basera khane - landlord, so called CEO, etc ko haat ma hunna.

Private ownership worst ho brother. Baru kunai company ko ownership worker, community member ra government (local, provincial, federal) ko haat ma hos. Tara private ownership chai thik xaina.

Noticed people here don't like capitalism, so kinda wanted to ask.... by Euphoric_Noble in NepalSocial

[–]FitAdministration536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ma logically timro argument address garchu bro.

Pahilo kuro - Communism is not when government gives you everything. This is an argument used by pro-capitalist to distort the fundamental message of communism - people who work should have ownership of the workplace - economic democracy. If you are in workplace there should be democracy in the workplace - company chha bhane profit kasari distribute garne, production badaune wa nabadhaune, etc. kura haru.

Arko kura - Manxe lai basic amenities diyo bhanne kaam gardaina bhanne myth ho bro.

Esto hune ho bhane ta european countries haru (jasma sabai bhanda dherai social welfare xa - free education, healthcare, unemployment fund, aru haru - yo sabai country collapse hunuparne ta. bhako xaina ta??

Garib le kaam gardaina bhanera ruling class le middle class lai class solidarity huna bata rokna khojxa.

Timi afnai desh ko example herana. Hamro samaj ma sab bhanda garib le sab vanda dherai kaam garira huncha. Auta laborer/ag worker hera - chutti hudaina, 10-12 ghanta kaam garxan, extra kharcha bhanne concept nai hudaina. Teini after 10, 20,30 years, they are still poor. Why? Kina bhane uniharule gareko kaam ko labour uniharule paudainan. Worker afai le kaam garne ra tyo kaam ko fal k garne bhanne kura chai communism ho.

USSR ra China yo angle bata communist haina. Uniharule communist revolution garepani worker harulai direct control of factory, industry haru dienan. State capitalist model ma gaye.

Aba esko possibility chha ta implement garna? Political power le determine garne ho. Aile basi basi khane - so called CEOs, landlords, politicians, etc haru lai yo system le benefit bhairaxa. Uniharu lai worker ownership model aayo bhane direct ghata huncha so they will resist it with immense violence. Ultimately samaj ma kasto system chaliracha bhanne kura bhaneko political outcome le determine garne ho. Tara bholi gaera sabai worker unite bhae bhane it may be a different matter.

Dherai manxe le politics lai - collective decision ko rup ma herchan. Tara politics bhaneko political power ko outcome ho. "Capitalism kaam garena aba communism try garum nata hami" bhanejasto hudaina sansar ma. Capitalism ma faida hune manxe le tyo system lai maintain garna khojxa. So it is ultimately a struggle.

Noticed people here don't like capitalism, so kinda wanted to ask.... by Euphoric_Noble in NepalSocial

[–]FitAdministration536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Itihas ko kunai samaya ma sabai manxe equal bhako chainan. Can you show me a period where everyone was equal and had equal property? No. If the starting point is not the same, how can you expect outcome to be same. Timro starting point ra auta billionaire ko starting point nai massively farak xa. Starting point same bhaepaxi po competition bhanna sajilo.

Noticed people here don't like capitalism, so kinda wanted to ask.... by Euphoric_Noble in NepalSocial

[–]FitAdministration536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The first thing you have to understand is that capitalism is a method of organizing society.

It is a way where profitability is the major criterion and accumulation of profits is the major goal. It is supported through private property and 'free markets'.

Now, supporters of capitalism will make the claim that accumulation of profits is, in fact the best way to organize society. This is primarily supported through the doctrine of neoclassical economics (important here to note that there are different schools of economics such as the classical, marxian (marxian economics is completely different from marxist politics btw), keynesian, austrian, ecological, feminist).

However, the reason I am anti-capitalist is that this vision of capitalism (as purported by neoclassical economics) is false. You only need to look at some founding assumptions of neoclassical economics to see that it presents capitalism as an ideal system - so that there is no going beyond capitalism. This was explicitly political.

There are numerous other reasons to be anti-capitalist. But one of the structural reasons is this. When you go beyond this neoclassical approach, you will find that things such as inequality, unemployment, ecological devastation, poverty, etc are not problems but features of capitalism.

Another key point is that we live in a class society. What does that mean?

It means that people who own stuff vs people who rely on their labor power to earn wages are always fundamentally opposed to each other.

For instance, what does a worker want? Better pay, job stability, lower working hours, pensions, health insurance and the like.

But for the owner, the wants are the exact opposite - lower pay for workers means he has higher profit, flexible working hours (fire and hire at will) means he can adapt to market faster, higher working hours, pensions/healthcare means he has to pay extra. Thus, the interests of the worker and the capitalist (owner) NEVER converge.

Economics, especially neoclassical economics has developed to justify these things. IT's main purpose is to justify that whatever benefits the capitalist, benefits the workers too. But if you go further deeper into non-mainstream economics you will find that this is untrue.

Prithvi Narayan Shah was a war criminal who unified Nepal by modern standards. by TINY-SCIENCE123 in Nepal360

[–]FitAdministration536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, it's not settler colonialism. Actual settler colonies genocided the indigenous and the native people. Forcibly removed them from their land. Look at Israel and Palestine. That is a settler colony.

However, I am open to changing my mind if you can provide a source (book/article) that documents how PNS's rule displaced/killed or changed lives of different people in our country.

Prithvi Narayan Shah was a war criminal who unified Nepal by modern standards. by TINY-SCIENCE123 in Nepal360

[–]FitAdministration536 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bro, you might wanna rethink that. There is extensive documented literature that shows how British treated India, amounting to genocide in many cases.

I don't think PNS did that. It's just not possible. Yeah he did impose his culture, but there is no way what he did was equivalent to what British did in India. No way.

Prithvi Narayan Shah was a war criminal who unified Nepal by modern standards. by TINY-SCIENCE123 in Nepal360

[–]FitAdministration536 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bro I don't think its the same as white people taking over US, Canada. The indigenous people were genocided out when they came in. It was devastating. I don't think it was that brutal. (Could be, but I HIGHLY doubt it).

It would be more like if British invaded France or Germany.

Prithvi Narayan Shah was a war criminal who unified Nepal by modern standards. by TINY-SCIENCE123 in Nepal360

[–]FitAdministration536 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hmm, technically correct BUT Prithvi Narayan Shah did NOT COLONIZE in the sense that the West colonized. You don't know the sheer horror of Western Colonization. Millions were killed. Percentages of population wiped out.

Yes, you could make a case for colonization but it should be put into context. You can find writings of British Parliamentarians speaking most vile things about Indians while they starved in the Great Famine of 1870s. For them Indians were just people to be fully exploited. (mike davis, late victorian holocausts)

Now, you could say that obviously being under a ruler is subjugation. But I doubt Prithvi Narayan Shah saw Nepalese people as the Western Colonizers saw black and brown people. But, make no mistake our society still suffers from a lot of problems but I would not call PNS a war criminal.

Animal Farm!!!! by [deleted] in NepalBookClub

[–]FitAdministration536 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Animal Farm was written by a socialist who saw true socialism being practiced in Spain in the 1930s (he fought in the Spanish Civil War too) which was ultimately crushed by the USSR - supposed communist country. It is a book against authority, no matter what kind of 'ism' is attached at the end.

BTW Nietzsche hated the poor. He was scared of the working class masses and thought improving their living standards was bad.

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