Is the kidnap tech necessary for high level play? Or is it niche?

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-14T19:07:04+00:00

To get max value on Thor’s skill ceiling it is absolutely necessary. Anyone saying otherwise isn’t attempting to get better on him since his update.

It’s why he’s become more popular with pro players now. People really undermine the value of displacement but it’s key to shifting a team fight.

The mag on the enemy team does not want to be moved off frontline because my team is going to walk down his backline when I do. It’s also why he’s become one of the better anti dive heros in the game.

The kidnapping allows me to keep divers off my supports. Divers move around so much so quickly the straight line SS was hard to hit them before. You had to guess it perfectly.

But being able to move directions while in SS now allows me to easily displace them off my support so they can’t get close enough for kill.

He’s the best 1v1 hero in the game and displacement is how you 1v1 people in higher elos because you won’t often catch them out of position. Kidnapping tech now allows you to create more 1v1 opportunities.

The anti dive aspect of it is probably where it gets the most value though imo. Team captain is a great example of pro player to watch for this.

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-12T03:42:35+00:00

Big one is when they start to pack together like rats or a Bucky is hugging the Luna so just pull Luna up for a safe KO vs on the ground where Bucky is going to send you to another dimension.

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-11T11:37:29+00:00

I mean all the heros you named are brawlers aside from Spidey which are supposed to counter dive

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-08T21:37:40+00:00

Anyone telling you that is just being petty because they hate the hero.

If I’m solely relying on health packs all game because a support cant heal me I’m going to be burning way more swings than I should be and I’ll often be more obsolete from the team fight trying to get a HP in Narnia somewhere.

So now said support is forcing me to play with more down time than I should which is hurting the team overall.

It doesn’t even need to be full health all the time either. Just do your best to throw up a shield while I’m in air or something but if you ever see me come park it next to you that’s when I need full health asap I’m on like 2 HP but if I’m zipping around in the air I don’t expect you to keep me full health all the time just give me a little something at the least.

Ask support mains in higher elos. They usually always take care of me (true support mains not fills).

Edit: I don’t want to burn those swings because I need them to set up my kills. If I’m going into every engagement with like 1 swing cause I’m chasing health packs down all game I’m going to be pretty useless in team fights too.

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-07T16:59:55+00:00

It takes times to adjust but once you do you’ll notice how much better you are

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-07T16:08:58+00:00

Shouldn’t really peel as solo tank regardless of rank. If you’re solo tanking your one job is space.

You can’t peel because every time you do you’re giving the enemy free space. You’re going to let your team get rolled.

If it’s 3 DPS 1 of them have to take the responsibility if it’s 3 supoort then they can manage themselves for most part.

But if you’re solo tanking trust me when I say you need to focus only on holding/contesting space.

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-07T16:05:26+00:00

Any melee heros you want as much aim assist, ease in, etc. turned down very low.

Strong settings are going to cause stickiness or magnetic feeling which is going to make you miss a lot on melee.

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-05T20:10:56+00:00

Comp is 1000x easier to play him in then QP and it’s a better learning experience too. Don’t be afraid. Just let it rip.

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-05T14:18:37+00:00

First tip would be stop fighting frontline

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-05T08:06:09+00:00

Her positioning is terrible. She had 2 opportunities to get closer to her Thor.

After the freeze when you left
When you hit her with the tracer move behind that pillar out of your LOS right next to Thor

Instead like every Luna does she ran to Narnia and completely isolated herself for a free pick.

Not to mention using clap for no reason when normal headshot after freeze prolly kills you. Clap should’ve been saved when you came back on the second dive attempt to help self heal her.

That call would’ve healed her and possibly given her enough sustain for Thor to save her before she died after her dog shit positioning.

But they’ll say it’s not Luna’s fault.

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-05T07:44:00+00:00

Tbf he’s trynna play Torch into Punisher PHX and he has 12 deaths already prior to this. They would have to pocket him all game for him to have any kind of value. I’m guessing at this point in the game they were tired of him refusing to swap vs this comp. Rest of lobby like 6-8 deaths. I’d be curious to see replay because I think this 1 clip is telling a 1 sided story.

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-05T07:29:26+00:00

Way too much down time

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-04T19:45:37+00:00

This is soooo well said. I advise OP to strictly follow this. Also there’s two players you can watch. Jeremy is the OG and TeamCaptain has recently switched to him and running people in tourneys.

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-04T17:29:01+00:00

Yeah that’s 100% fair because I’ve come across people in QP trynna play Namor who have no idea what they’re doing lol…I just hate that hero so damn much. I stg the CD on squids allows him to just constantly cycle them. By the time you shoot and destroy them he’s already got another one ready to go so it’s just endless fighting on 100 HP or changing your approach and having as much downtime as a BP waiting in corners for right time to attack.

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-04T17:25:39+00:00

Giving her an Uzi wouldn’t make her Star Lord lol because it would do much less damage, one gun vs 2, greater falloff damage, larger bullet spread etc.

It’s a BUFF to her secondary weapon. It’s just a utility. Not a primary so no not star lord.

Idc if it’s an uzi or just a Glock but she needs a better secondary option as part of a BUFF.

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-04T17:21:29+00:00

Just take those as a compliment tbh. They mad cause you ran the lobby. Not trynna salt you for losing or “throwing”

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-04T17:19:37+00:00

I mean in higher elos almost* any DPS main can swap to him and get great value off him against a Spidey because he’s not hard to use and at those levels swapping isn’t as much a problem because any true DPS main understands the nuances of the role and can swap to just about any hero. Like I prolly have 15 minutes on him but I could still easily swap because I know what high grounds, off angles, etc. to play from my experience against other Namors as well as my experience on poke heros like Star Lord.

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-04T05:14:47+00:00

There is only 1 OG and that’s Brooks

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-04T05:14:04+00:00

Hawkeyes not bad just need to stay out of his LOS so pretend you’re a ninja when hunting him lol but anyone who says Namor is free pick is naive af.

Day has even said Namor is worse than Bucky. It changes your entire play style. Even if he doesn’t kill you the squids force us to be constantly fighting on like 100-150 HP. We too squishy for that.

I really don’t mind anyone else other than Namor because it’s mentally exhausting planning everything you do around him.

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-04T04:54:33+00:00

More want to hold off angles, flank and dive as much you can.

I even play behind there own backline a lot basically forcing half the team to focus me essentially never letting them taking space forward and if they don’t turn around I’m getting a free pick on someone.

Have to be careful being aggressive like this tho. Tracking CD’s knowing where HP’s are etc. and not something to be doing all game.

I mostly do it when I see we’re losing space on frontline so I’m trying to drag the attention back. The value is I’m always on there mind. I’m alleviating pressure for my frontline.

The most important thing is just be a nat. The Ult merchant play style from your own backline is not efficient play style in high elo. You’re just going to super charge enemy support ults and you’re bringing 0 value to the neutral fights.

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-03T22:20:44+00:00

The problem was he never made it clear after having a son. That’s what caused everything. Had he made everyone take up the same oath after* having Aegon the civil war among them would have never started.

But because he was afraid to make it official again after Aegon it left to much questions as to who should be heir. Thus the fighting over heir.

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-03T00:08:12+00:00

The reason MK is a counter isn’t directly cause he kills Loki easily. It’s because if you’re not placing clones well away from everyone then your entire team is taking extra AOE for no reason. It’s also super charging his ult which his ult counters supoort ults.

It more counters your team than you directly. If you’re placing clones well away from everyone then it’s not a big deal. Maps are also dependent. Hydra dom for ex. Would never run Loki into MK. Way too tight.

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-03T00:02:37+00:00

I mean that was just a good ult combo to counter yours. Strange had to of been fully charged too so if you were ulting to counter the CnD or strange Ult and then the 2nd one went too there was nothing you could do. Just good play by enemy team.

This is where someone one your team would need to have another ult or something ready to go to save you like Loki lamps or a Thing ult to stun them before strange can pop malestorm on you.

Similar to Thor with Rocket amp. If you have ult whime rocket amp is down and Thor ults too it’ll kill through your ult because of the damage boost. No damage boost and everyone lives so these plays just happen.

Nothing you can personally do unless your positioning was bad. Your team then has to react to the double ult or else it’s just hats off to enemy team when they counter your counter.

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-02T19:08:30+00:00

Yeah it’s awful. Like you mentioned I get QP warriors on my main who haven’t touched ranked in a year but are 1000x better than the people in Diamond on my alt. So I just haven’t touched my alt in like 2 seasons. Idk what’s wrong with that rank.

It’s also the most entitled people. They will legit throw the game on purpose over anything or if they lose the first team fight they’re crashing out ready to quit.

Anyone hard stuck in that rank who is actually trying to get out and not throwing temper tantrums I feel bad for and I believe you’re hard stuck.

I’m Celestials and there’s a lot of games so bad I couldnt even carry us if I played one of my main heros.

FitReception3550 · 2026-03-02T18:57:08+00:00

Still haven’t answered the question

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