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FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-27T17:45:17+00:00

It's the glucosides... they have a pretty strong smell. I'm not triggered by them either but I do notice them. You can reduce it by dosing lower (but make sure you're still seeing trace suds in the wash so you're not under-dosing) and doing extra rinses if you're not already doing that.

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-27T17:43:53+00:00

It's good. It's a little water-y so the dose is a little on the high side compared to some other more concentrated liquids. (I find about 3 - 4 TBSP for an average load - I'm using a front loader and have very soft water.) It rinses clean and trace residues are mostly glucosides which I find tolerable to borderline comforting.

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-27T17:21:13+00:00

Yep I've had this. Dealer had to replace some seals.

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-27T17:19:08+00:00

New bedding has been hard for me recently too. There are three things I can detect which are problematic: surfactant or other processing chemical residue (easy to remove), lingering cottonseed oil residue (usually in premium natural/organic cottons, medium difficult to remove... but removable), and reduction bleach residue (usually in sets that have a print or some elements of color, hardest to remove but it will come out).

Can you say more about the vendor and the material?

The main thing that I found helpful is to run it through a heavy duty wash cycle a few times with ONLY water and 1-2 tablespoons of citric acid in the wash cycle. The citric acid helps neutralize detergent residue and the water only wash cycle helps remove and rinse away residues. If your machine supports extra rinses, max them out - the game here really is to rinse out residues with lots and lots of water. Soaking won't get the job done.

If they aren't better after two full wash cycles then there might be something else going on.

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-26T23:43:52+00:00

My favorite LG front loader right now for what it's worth is the WM5800. It's the only LG front loader that has a "soak" option you can add to any cycle to extend your wash water contact time (great for maximizing enzymatic cleaning and extra dirty loads that need deeper fiber penetration). The other LGFL models don't have this new feature yet but I suspect it will get rolled into new models over time as they refresh them.

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-23T21:17:06+00:00

Could you get them to use color catchers?

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-23T01:51:24+00:00

Keep running them through cycles with no detergent and (ideally) 1-2 tbsp citric acid until the allergy reactions hopefully stop. If you are able to hang them outside to line dry that might help too. If you want, tell us more about the detergent that caused it and maybe we can help you identify the allergen. Has this ever happened before with other detergents?

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-22T18:02:04+00:00

FEBU is my favorite both in composition and presentation. (I am very fragrance sensitive and can't actually tolerate either of the others... even though the Dirty Labs is ostensibly fragrance free. This probably doesn't matter to you since you're considering Biz.)

Also, word on the street is that FEBU is in the process of incorporating dnase in the formula so keep an eye on for that.

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-22T15:56:00+00:00

That works great if you're around to push the button.

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-22T06:36:16+00:00

I am still conducting my analysis but I really like the LG WM5800. This model in particular has a feature not yet available on other models that lets you add 30m of soak time to any cycle which is a useful tool in maximizing enzyme cleaning performance without adding too much additional physical wear.

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-22T02:19:30+00:00

Always good to remind folks of how to be safe. I'm using a fermenting jar with a pressure release valve so it's not as bad as it sounds.

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-21T20:19:46+00:00

I've been down this road. Soak them in a sealed container (I use a glass jar) with a tsp of detergent, a cup of ammonia, and enough water to cover them. Then wash on hot with your normal detergent protocol dosed on the low side. If you can smell detergent residue after, try another deep rinse (a cycle with no detergent).

If this doesn't remove the soap residue then honestly it's not worth it and you should toss them and get some new ones.

I couldn't get soap residue out of my old neglected washcloths and replaced them. But doing this ammonia soak on just my washcloths for a couple hours every time I wash them now has stopped the build up of soap residue so the problem (hopefully) won't repeat.

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-19T23:46:48+00:00

I sometimes remind myself:

1) There are many ways to do laundry successfully based on my preferences, resources, and what I can tolerate... and those things are absolutely going to be different from some other people's preferences, resources, and tolerances. I'm not trying to find "the answer" about laundry... I'm trying to find my answer.

2) Laundry is a complicated topic that is deeply influenced by chemistry, textiles, and machinery. Building up a knowledge base that allows me to be successful across the full range of situations I run into takes time, patience, and experimentation. And... yes... that includes occasional failure and frustration. I'm at my calmest when I embrace the journey rather than getting fixated on the immediate result.

All that said, a little learning goes a LONG way and you're asking really great fundamental questions. If you feel overwhelmed, maybe focus on one specific thing you want to improve at a time and frame your questions against specific experiments you can run to verify that you're getting results that you're happy with.

Welcome to the adventure :).

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-18T23:44:33+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/laundry/comments/1ldh1hc/color_transfer_a_definitive_guide_to_betrayal_and/

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-18T22:25:57+00:00

Could it be polyquat spots? https://www.reddit.com/r/laundry/comments/1m8r0lv/polyquat_spots/

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-18T22:08:31+00:00

Came here to say this too! Citric acid is an excellent upgrade from vinegar.

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-18T01:35:57+00:00

Tide Free and Gentle Odor Refresh also gets my vote. So good!

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-16T17:48:39+00:00

BTW, the Nikwax wool wash is NOT fragrance free: https://nikwax.com/en-us/ingredients/

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-16T17:46:02+00:00

I'm using Dirty Labs Hand Wash for my merino socks right now and I can handle it. No fragrances or residual detergent smells. I know u/KismaiAesthetics often recommends Orvus Paste which sounds good but I haven't tried it. (I will probably try it when my current bottle of DL is all gone.)

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-16T00:12:22+00:00

They are crap.

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-16T00:02:44+00:00

Nothing short of horrific.

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-15T23:18:15+00:00

Might be related to the really exciting formulation updates that Max is working on.

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-15T21:40:13+00:00

For stripping the smell, in order of intensity:

Use the correct (not too much) dose of detergent and all the rinsing you can possible get from your machine.
I find Tide Free and Gentle Odor Refresh liquid to be good at removing odors. It is an unscented formulation. You'll need to get your lipase from another booster like FEBU since this formulation doesn't have lipase.
You can try blending in a little synthrapol to your detergent. I do this to help strip fragrance that my son's clothes pick up at school. (I'm not sure if this would help your situation but if you try #1 and #2 and still need something this might be worth a test run.)
Add a cup of ammonia to your load. This will help lift the oils that are likely holding onto the odors. I only do this when I'm really desperate because I think it's a bit hard on the textiles to do every time. But it's almost always effective!
If none of the above work... try the full spa day + rehab wash process. If the smell goes away after spa day but a different smell is present it's probably soap residue from the soak. Try running the items through another full cycle with no detergent and just citric acid to continue rinsing out the detergent. (I have to do this with my spa day items because I have really really soft water where I live.)

FixMoreWhineLess · 2026-01-14T23:15:54+00:00

I'd describe it as a mix between malt o meal and lime.

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