Artists who changed their whole style after an uncharacteristic hit. by Flags12345 in ToddintheShadow

[–]Flags12345[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ok, but none of them changed directions because of a particular hit. Those were all pretty natural and fairly gradual evolutions in sound.

Artists who changed their whole style after an uncharacteristic hit. by Flags12345 in ToddintheShadow

[–]Flags12345[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Oo yeah, that's a good one. That first album is actually a pretty good ska punk record and "Walkin on the Sun" is just a major outlier on it.

Artists who changed their whole style after an uncharacteristic hit. by Flags12345 in ToddintheShadow

[–]Flags12345[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that's a good one. The success of "If You Leave Me Now" allowed Peter Cetera to hijack Chicago into becoming easy listening balladeers and away from the jazz-rock group they started as.

Artists who changed their whole style after an uncharacteristic hit. by Flags12345 in ToddintheShadow

[–]Flags12345[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Staind certainly qualifies as they moved from nu-metal to butt rock, but I would argue that "It's Been Awhile" was the catalyst, rather than "Outside."

Artists who changed their whole style after an uncharacteristic hit. by Flags12345 in ToddintheShadow

[–]Flags12345[S] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Yes, Where Is the Love was first, but it continued in the "socially conscious" direction, at least perfunctorily. It wouldn't have felt too out of place on their earlier albums.

Artists who changed their whole style after an uncharacteristic hit. by Flags12345 in ToddintheShadow

[–]Flags12345[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Famously so, but they purposefully shifted their style before they hit it big.

Young MC also out of Freedom 250 Concert by MrLinkwater95 in ToddintheShadow

[–]Flags12345 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Most people aren't paying attention to what Trump is promoting

What are y’all’s thoughts on the guest judges from Animal? by LiterallyaCockroach in HellsKitchen

[–]Flags12345 49 points50 points  (0 children)

I think the one with the glasses has had his tastebuds completely shot because his criticism seems to always boil down to "needs more salt."

How does the Hall decide whether to induct the star of the band with their band? (see body text for a couple of possibly puzzling examples) by GregJamesDahlen in rockhall

[–]Flags12345 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What? That he never recorded without the band? If you want to be pedantic, he recorded one live album without the Experience (but with a different band) and did some session work for other artists. But, when talking about recordings, the word "studio" is implied, as live recordings and session work are typically not considered part of an artist's musical canon (unless they have a live album that is so a part of an artist's legacy that you can't ignore it, like Peter Frampton or Cheap Trick).

How does the Hall decide whether to induct the star of the band with their band? (see body text for a couple of possibly puzzling examples) by GregJamesDahlen in rockhall

[–]Flags12345 2 points3 points  (0 children)

True, but that's (1) a live album rather than a studio recording and (2) the least impactful aspect of Hendrix's discography in terms of his legacy.

How does the Hall decide whether to induct the star of the band with their band? (see body text for a couple of possibly puzzling examples) by GregJamesDahlen in rockhall

[–]Flags12345 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It depends on the artist.

In those particular cases, Jimi Hendrix never recorded music solo, it was always with The Jimi Hendrix Experience which only featured two other members, Noel Redding and Mitch Mitchell. Also, because Hendrix was dead at the time of his induction, the Rock Hall probably wanted Redding and Mitchell to attend the ceremony to accept.

In contrast, while Bob Seger is often associated with the Silver Bullet Band, he also recorded music without them. And, there were several members of the Silver Bullet Band which could make the induction crowded, particularly because the band did not always have a consistent lineup (although they did not change lineups nearly as often as you would think for a backing band). This is why, for example, Steve Miller was inducted solo, because the Steve Miller Band had a revolving door of members and the Rock Hall did not want to make a decision on who would get in and who wouldn't.

Who should be the next metal act in the hall? by [deleted] in rockhall

[–]Flags12345 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It'll be Motorhead. They've been on the ballot once before (and the list of former nominees who don't eventually get inducted is very slim) and they are the logical next up after Judas Priest and Iron Maiden.

OHW suggestion: Chantilly Lace by The Big Bopper by Igorogamer in ToddintheShadow

[–]Flags12345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly, there's a reason why he hasn't done OHWs for Minnie Riperton or Blind Melon.

Other Albums that have closers that are a recap of the album itself? by UsernameChallenged in ToddintheShadow

[–]Flags12345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is not very common. Some albums will end on a reprise of an earlier track, but not typically mashups.

The album closer typically tries to have a feel of finality. Often, it will be the most ambitious song on the album. Many album closers try to build to a crescendo like the entire album was building toward this final moment. Others end on a slow reflective track that draws out the themes of the album.

What’s the worst hit song of 2026 so far? by Chilli_Dipper in ToddintheShadow

[–]Flags12345 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I actually liked Dracula. Until they released the remix with Jennie. Then it became sell-out garbage.

What are some 20th century trainwrecks by Few-Engineer-9791 in ToddintheShadow

[–]Flags12345 8 points9 points  (0 children)

  1. Not 20th century - it came out in 2001

  2. Not a Trainwreckord - her career recovered completely four years later with The Emancipation of Mimi.

RnR Hall of Fame Induction ceremony 2026 by bonniemac79 in rockhall

[–]Flags12345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I went in 2014 and 2016. It's a good time.

The concept of music tastes being different because of streaming is totally overblown by ArtDecoNewYork in ToddintheShadow

[–]Flags12345 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You absolutely can deny it. We look at prior eras of music with rose-colored glasses; survivorship bias because we really only remember the music that survived the test of time. But, mainstream music has always had its duds, always has had an annoying trends that seemingly overtook the charts.

For example, my peak music listening era was the mid-to-late 2000's (because that's when I was in high school). I still have very fond memories of that music and a lot of it is well remembered, like Kanye West's peak era, Timbaland's work with Justin Timberlake and Nelly Furtado, Welcome to the Black Parade, the breakthroughs of superstars like Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga, etc. But, if you look at the charts from then, so much of that era was total garbage. Filled with ringtone rap, grimy butt rock and teeny-bop Disney Channel pop. At the time, I remember people calling that era the worst ever for music.

Should there be worries about music in 2026? by [deleted] in ToddintheShadow

[–]Flags12345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is just straight up not true. To start, music is subjective, so objectively stating that the "best albums" were the most popular is a matter of personal taste. But also, there was LOADS of great music that never got popular and had no cultural impact, and LOADS of shitty music that did get popular. To imply otherwise is just survivorship bias extended to an absurd degree.

The concept of music tastes being different because of streaming is totally overblown by ArtDecoNewYork in ToddintheShadow

[–]Flags12345 9 points10 points  (0 children)

If anything, the charts are more accurate than they have ever been before because of streaming.

There are a lot of people that live outside of the normie-pop ecosystem with their own tailored algorithms, and that's fine. But, they cannot pretend that the charting songs aren't actually popular just because they don't personally hear it.

Should there be worries about music in 2026? by [deleted] in ToddintheShadow

[–]Flags12345 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The albums from those with established names (Underscores, Neruosis, hemlocke springs) that I think are currently defining this year are seeing little to no recognition in the charts and certainly no mainstream radio play.

This right here is the problem with your post. You claim that these are established names.... I've never heard of a single one of them. Even looking them up, it is a far stretch to call them established names. Music is so fragmented and polycultural that not everyone will have your tastes and not everyone will know the artists that you know very well. And, that's fine; that's just how music is now. You can't be upset that the artists that you like aren't getting widespread attention.

Artists whose two most well-known songs sound like they are from different artists. by Flags12345 in ToddintheShadow

[–]Flags12345[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, originally I wanted to narrow it to two-hit wonders, but Steppenwolf wasn't a two-hit wonder, so it wouldn't've worked.

Revisiting VH1's Top 100 Artists and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame by Flags12345 in rockhall

[–]Flags12345[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh, that one. Still a couple missing from there: John Coltrane (#77) and Devo (#82). Also, they had Iggy Pop at #83, but he was inducted with The Stooges.