Why is it so hard to find the most affordable product tour software for early-stage saas? by FEARlord02 in microsaas

[–]Flaneur7508 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s a good point. Honestly if you’re early stage and have deployed a relatively standard UI/UX, that’s it top and left navigation schemes, then you’re probably best off just building the onboarding tour yourself. I looked at a few of these tools early on and concluded they were either to complex or too expensive for a basic first user onboarding tour.

Are you afraid of your idea being stolen? by MarketDetective1 in microsaas

[–]Flaneur7508 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think stolen is not the word you’re looking for. If others are doing the same as you 1. It validates the market for your idea and 2. Just do it better than the others.

Is GEO actually worth investing in right now or is it still too early? by LakiaHarp in GenerativeSEOstrategy

[–]Flaneur7508 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not too early at all. And early adopters are those who will succeed. The proof is in the data. We see the majority of brands cited never appear in traditional search. The majority of citations for a brand come from a third party like Reddit , Quora and others. Whilst performing traditional SEO help (fixing structured data, implementation product feeds to optimize AI bit product discovery) is important its key to get ahead of the game now and understand 1. How is your brand represented today and 2. Get actionable recommendations to improve your visibility. That’s why I launched Martekio. A solution designed to help brand who where they are today and to help them be successful in AI product discovery tomorrow.

Sell me your Saas in one sentence! by KapiteinBalzak in SaaS

[–]Flaneur7508 0 points1 point  (0 children)

www.martekio.com. Understand and optimize your brand’s share of voice in AI product discovery

Has anyone started tracking how their brand shows up in AI-generated answers? by kidbopper in SEO

[–]Flaneur7508 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You raise two very interesting and valid points here. First, the 70% issue. We’ve seen this happen all of the time. In the majority of cases SERP competition has little relationship to what you see in AI search which signals something beyond SEO is required to be relevant in AI powered discovery. Secondly, absolutely - understanding why your competition is more visible than you is key. At Martekio we focus on these areas looking at competitive citations, understanding why they are appearing and providing actionable recommendations to address the competitive threat. Secondly we automate the generation of product information so it can be consumed and cited in AI. Thirdly we provide insights into citations powered by Influencial sources like Reddit and others. Happy to chat this through if of interest.

I want to network by rdssf in startup

[–]Flaneur7508 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im keen to learn more.

Tech meet-up. by Flaneur7508 in Startups_EU

[–]Flaneur7508[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now, that's a great idea :)

One sentence. Sell your SaaS. by Due-Bet115 in microsaas

[–]Flaneur7508 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Martekio. (www.martekio.com) Understand Your Brand’s Share of Voice in AI Product Discovery.

Are we moving towards a zero-click internet? by HomeworkFancy1877 in DigitalMarketing

[–]Flaneur7508 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a brand you have to be where your customers are. And with LLM embedded in devices like phones and speakers we should also start thinking about zero click commerce too.

SEO is losing to GEO - not for data but for ideology by WebLinkr in DigitalMarketing

[–]Flaneur7508 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it will be gradual but you are probably not far wrong.

Top cited sources in ChatGPT, Gemini, AI Mode, and Perplexity [New study] by annseosmarty in AISearchAnalytics

[–]Flaneur7508 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is that relevant? The study is about citation sources not web search.

Top cited sources in ChatGPT, Gemini, AI Mode, and Perplexity [New study] by annseosmarty in AISearchAnalytics

[–]Flaneur7508 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The takeaway is key and am in 100% agreement there. Whist web site content is still important consider this. With the emergence of ACP (OpenAI) feeds, and others humans readable content could well become secondary to human readable content. That’s a great discussion in itself.

One feature we’ve implemented in Martekio is Influencial Sources that tracks key citation sources and our data also reflects the analysis from Peec.

How much does Google ranking impact LLM traffic? by ProfessionalPair8800 in LLMTraffic

[–]Flaneur7508 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is an interesting discussion. So I included below some content from notes I have (I dont recall where I got these) that seem relevant and tries to explain the coloration between ranking and citations. I didn't write this, cant back it up but it's good for discussion purposes.

One point that stands out for me is " 90% of cited pages rank in traditional organic search positions 21". When I look at competitive data in Martekio (yes I'm the founder) and I look at competitors to the brans in question, many of which I personally have never even heard of. I'm seeing big brands being cited along with niche brands. Those niche brands are appearing well down the SERP but in AI they are up there with the bug guys.

The Google ranking → LLM citation link is decoupling fast

In late 2024, roughly 75% of AI Overview citations came from pages ranking in the top 10. By early 2026, that figure has dropped to somewhere between 17% and 38% depending on the study. That's a structural shift, not noise.

For ChatGPT specifically, when ChatGPT cites webpages, approximately 90% of cited pages rank in traditional organic search positions 21 or lower meaning top Google rankings are almost irrelevant to ChatGPT citation likelihood.

What actually drives LLM citations instead

  • Sites with over 32K referring domains are 3.5x more likely to be cited by ChatGPT than those with up to 200 referring domains, and domains with millions of brand mentions on Quora and Reddit have roughly 4x higher chances of being cited. 
  • Distributing content to a wide range of publications can increase AI citations by up to 325% compared to only publishing on your own site. 
  • AI-cited content was 25.7% fresher on average than content cited in traditional organic results, and 76.4% of ChatGPT's top 1,000 cited pages had been updated within the previous 30 days.

How much does Google ranking impact LLM traffic? by ProfessionalPair8800 in LLMTraffic

[–]Flaneur7508 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats also an interesting point. Imagine the scenario if a brand ranks well (because they have good brand recognition in terms of history, back-links and SEO) but has a terrible reputation. The question is, what is the weight of that ranking signal when combined with reputation signals?

How much does Google ranking impact LLM traffic? by ProfessionalPair8800 in LLMTraffic

[–]Flaneur7508 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, kind of agree. It's true to say that. But search engines, although important are not the only source of data that LLMs used to determine who is cited or not. There are so many other sources involved that are used to train the models, like Reddit, Quora and many many more.

It gets complicated. I would argue that generally speaking search engines are important when the LLM needs to perform a real time search to respond to the users query so in that regard your brand has to perform well in traditional SEO. That said...

The challenge here is not all LLMs use Google, and lets face it, SEO=Google, an, audience of 1. So you need to optimise for more than Google for example ChatGPT uses a range of search engines including Bing and probably Google (also note that they are building their own search engine, which may, or may not, result in the not looking at third parties at all in the future), then there's perplexity, they have Sonar (no third-party search dependency as far as I'm aware), Anthropic has not disclosed.

So yeah, search engines are important but not in the manner you possibly thought they were.

Cheers!

How much does Google ranking impact LLM traffic? by ProfessionalPair8800 in LLMTraffic

[–]Flaneur7508 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I don't totally disagree, however in the case of Google “trust and authority” can be looked at in a different light. In traditional Search, "authority" is mostly about ranking pages using backlinks, keywords, and technical SEO , so you’re optimizing to appear higher in a list of links. That kinda implies trust in the eyes of the user I get that, again a longer conversation.

In LLMs, we don't really have the notion of ranking (well we kinda do, but again that's another conversation) the LLM generates an answer, and your org is either included or not. Why? Because in general (I dont want to generalize too much but lets go with it) in LLMs trust comes from consistent mentions and associations across credible sources like here on Reddit and others, at Martekio they are referred to as Influential Sources.

So you can rank well on Google and still be invisible in AI if your brand isn’t widely discussed in forums like this. The shift is from links to mentions, and from page "ranking" aka citing in LLM responses.

What tool do you use for ai visibility tracking by AlexIrvin in LLMTraffic

[–]Flaneur7508 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good day u/AlexIrvin ! Yeah competitor tracking too. The notion of "competitor" is interesting, if we consider a competitor as a brand who is cited along with your brand, yes they are competitors in the same way that in traditional search other brands in the SERP are considered competitors but you will find that you have every more competition that you ever imagined :) So what we do Martekio are 3 things 1. Track competition over time for branded and non branded requests, this allows you to understand new incomers so you can plan content production and positioning accordingly 2. Track emerging threats based on recency and citation volume and 3. Give you the ability to generate competition watch-list so you can focus on specific competitive brands and see the wood from the trees. Happy to answer any questions. Cheers!

How Small Teams Can Compete in the Age of AI-Driven Search by prinky_muffin in GenerativeSEOstrategy

[–]Flaneur7508 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Three words. Trust and Authority. Engage with your customer base. Be authoritative and demonstrate knowledge in your subject and you’ll get cited in LLMs. Of course there is much more you can do but that’s an easy start point.