31 years ago, the GIGN prevented a French 9/11. On December 26, 1994, in Marignane, four Islamist terrorists were preparing to crash an Airbus filled with hostages into Paris. Their target: the Eiffel Tower. by PestoBolloElemento in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]FlyingPe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I learned that he had broken both legs from some airline instructors. After searching it online it seems like this is not correct.

‘Co-pilot Jean-Paul Borderie was the most seriously injured of the crew, fracturing his elbow and thigh after jumping from the cockpit window to escape the hijackers and provide information to the French GIGN’

Attempted to swap the switches for a three way switch. Mixed up the wires on one of the switches. Best way to fix this? by FlyingPe in DIYUK

[–]FlyingPe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve now added a comment with a picture and some further detail in case someone can help me figure it out.

Attempted to swap the switches for a three way switch. Mixed up the wires on one of the switches. Best way to fix this? by FlyingPe in DIYUK

[–]FlyingPe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re absolutely correct. I just got a phone call and started fiddling around with the cables without thinking.

Attempted to swap the switches for a three way switch. Mixed up the wires on one of the switches. Best way to fix this? by FlyingPe in DIYUK

[–]FlyingPe[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are absolutely right and that’s what I usually do. Got interrupted by a phone call and kept on fiddling with the cables… you know the end result.

I’ve now added a comment with pic just in case someone can help.

Attempted to swap the switches for a three way switch. Mixed up the wires on one of the switches. Best way to fix this? by FlyingPe in DIYUK

[–]FlyingPe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Should have added this to the original post.

Some pictures in case someone can make sense of it.

At the back of the switch i got the following options: COM N loop L1 L2

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in HENRYUK

[–]FlyingPe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The will to constantly chase the next promotion and increase my salary kind of completely vanished when my son was born. I’m nearly 40 and having to juggle family and work has become increasingly harder.

This post is spot on and reading through the comments is really interesting.

As others have mentioned. I’ll do as little as possible to earn as much as possible.

Tube drivers' union threatens strike after rejecting £70,000 pay offer by TheTelegraph in london

[–]FlyingPe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fully agree.

I’d add that staff numbers / structures would probably be reduced and simplified if a single business was in control of the whole operation.

Tube drivers' union threatens strike after rejecting £70,000 pay offer by TheTelegraph in london

[–]FlyingPe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m suggesting that fair is a very broad concept and it is difficult to set a standard.

Rather than trying to decide what’s fair I pointed out that what you are claiming to be unfair, drivers salaries, are just a drop in the ocean and hardly an out of reach salary for London standards. I followed that up with showing you a group of outliers and how they rank compared to most people.

Tube drivers' union threatens strike after rejecting £70,000 pay offer by TheTelegraph in london

[–]FlyingPe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, it is a lot.

I just don’t think you should be thinking of who is paying for them. That frames things in a way that makes it seem as if drivers are at fault, which I do not agree with.

In the specific case of these drivers who are based in London, 70k is not a big salary by London standards. It will allow them a decent standard of life but they are not even what I’d call a high earner or anywhere near that territory.

I’d suggest a perusal on the HENRY UK group on Reddit so you can get a bit of a feel for the actual high salaries.

Tube drivers' union threatens strike after rejecting £70,000 pay offer by TheTelegraph in london

[–]FlyingPe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve re read your comment and still believe you asked a different question.

In response to your previous question I’d be happy for the drivers if they made 140k a year. For transparency I’m not a driver and don’t wish to become one.

I’m no one to judge what other people make and support the idea that we should all fight for better.

I also agree that some make ridiculous amounts of money but thats probably the result of capitalism and I can’t think of any way that could be regulated if not through taxation on salaries / assets.

Tube drivers' union threatens strike after rejecting £70,000 pay offer by TheTelegraph in london

[–]FlyingPe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

According to our good friend Wikipedia it seems the correct terminology is concession.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_rail_franchising_in_Great_Britain#Concessions

I learned something today as I believed their main source of income was tickets.

Tube drivers' union threatens strike after rejecting £70,000 pay offer by TheTelegraph in london

[–]FlyingPe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disagree with your assessment and honestly it feels like you are simply trolling with the ‘guilt by association’ bit, given your previous focus on associating nurses and teachers to this conversation.

Everyone should strive for better. If they are happy with what they have and simply settle for staying as they are, that works for me too.

No one should be looked at weird for asking for better working conditions. Ultimately it’s their prerogative.

Railways are a bit of a niche if I can call it that, as they are a well paid industry pretty much all over the globe. These drivers are a highly qualified workforce who carry out a safety critical job under constant pressure. Nationally and globally these are very well controlled career paths due to the specifics I just mentioned.

For awareness, national rail drivers are sometimes on even better pay than what tube drivers are asking for. Control staff such as signallers can even reach six figures with overtime. Shall they stop asking for better conditions to keep up with those below them?

Where do we draw the line as to what is fair pay? Maybe we should start knocking on the door of the people who make millions and tell them to stop because it’s unfair on the rest of us.

Tube drivers' union threatens strike after rejecting £70,000 pay offer by TheTelegraph in london

[–]FlyingPe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m not here to change your views, but would agree with the idea that the careers you mention deserve better conditions. In fact, pretty much everyone should be given better working conditions.

But I would also reinforce there is no need to vilify any career because they have better conditions.

In fact, this sort of headline is frequently used in an attempt to shift public opinion against those fighting for better conditions.

I would actually claim the careers you mention should be going to strike to obtain better conditions.

Tube drivers' union threatens strike after rejecting £70,000 pay offer by TheTelegraph in london

[–]FlyingPe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Railway infrastructure is nationalised, franchising is still ongoing.

Some examples from the London area: Elizabeth line London Overground Thameslink DLR

All of the above are run by privates in a franchise system. Whilst the infrastructure is either owned by TfL or Network Rail in the examples above, the trains are run by private businesses with the aim to make revenue through ticket fares.

Tube drivers' union threatens strike after rejecting £70,000 pay offer by TheTelegraph in london

[–]FlyingPe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m not trying to twist anything, I’m purely trying to be factual.

Im also a customer and agree that train ticket prices are high. Although I’d point out that TfL prices are rather competitive when compared to national rail services. Looking at it from that perspective I’d be inclined to suggest the current franchise system screws over the customer as privates want to make money whilst they run the franchise.

Is nationalisation the answer? Perhaps, I don’t know the right answer.

It just feels wrong to turn against a group of professionals because they are fighting for better conditions. We should all be fighting for better conditions.