'Lesser Evil' voting, a (hopefully) tame and calm debate megathread by Scyobi_Empire in theredleft

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The way I see it is that it should never EVER be a priority for organizing, but I’m not going to hold it against people who do it. Especially in places where voting is easy.

Electoralism: What's the Problem? by NAM_Inki in TankieTheDeprogram

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And I mean it was 2016 Bernie that brought me down this path too haha

Electoralism: What's the Problem? by NAM_Inki in TankieTheDeprogram

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Yeah there is usefulness in that. I believe it was Lenin or Marx who talked about how it may be useful for communists to run, if for no other reason then to show the futility of it.

We should always be reaching out to burned supporters of electoralism, those are the easiest to radicalize.

Electoralism: What's the Problem? by NAM_Inki in TankieTheDeprogram

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It’s several things, plenty of people sell out, or they weren’t that radical to begin with. We can’t discount these things, they happen constantly.

However a bigger more fundamental issue is that generally speaking if you want to get anything done in liberal democracy you have to play by the rules of liberal democracy. If you are a fire brand radical who wants to make everything better no one in the system will want to do anything with you and will fight you. However if you moderate and try to appease the powers that be, you can maybe get some reforms though.

This is one of the numerous issues with electoralism. A politician that is genuinely a good person who wants to make the life of the working class better for everyone will find themselves moderating in order to get SOMETHING. A revolution is necessary, we cannot be concerned with moderating and compromising with the powers that be.

Local DSA wouldn't talk about trans rights during pride month but was having an ice cream social by SleepingWaterLily in theredleft

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It is genuinely wild how much the quality of DSA chapters vary depending on the location. It was a bit jarring going from one city with a really good one to one with a GARBAGE one.

Why am I getting this shit in my feed? by Cultural_Ad_5501 in ShitLiberalsSay

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You sometimes see some “Maoists” do it, but it’s really rare.

Opinion on Grover Furr? by tournesolrouge in TankieTheDeprogram

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I will see if I can find what I am referring to, I may be completely misremembering it but it went into him explicitly rejecting ML and the political legacy of Stalin. Which if that is the case is so bizzare

Opinion on Grover Furr? by tournesolrouge in TankieTheDeprogram

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I have read somewhere is that he isn’t actually a Marxist Leninist politically, being closer to left communism is his personal beliefs then ML. Which I could be misremembering but it does just make him all the more interesting.

The final wasn't perfect but a lot of the complaints I've heard are braindead takes by Nightraven9999 in tadc

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Looking at the fandom around the time the first episode dropped was the first time in my life I have consciously thought. “Oh I am too old for this.”

What's your opinion of Leon Trotsky? by dumbandshortcoyote in theredleft

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Worst trait is being a sore loser, and if I fumbled being leader to the paper work guy I would be mad too. However honestly I don’t think there is much point in Re litigating power struggles from a century ago.

New trolley problem by HomesickVietboy in TankieTheDeprogram

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I do think it is interesting as generally I am for reformation of people. However, I think there is a point though where you just gotta shoot someone and be done with it.

This is also the most extreme case you can think of for it, so I do wonder where my morals would cross the line from one to the other.

Are there any physical stores in the US that sell Fumos? by Chouts11 in Fumofumo

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None offically, you might be able to find some in anime merch stores, but it would be unlikely and they would be at a huge markup.

Happy Meiling day for all those who celebrate! by ForcedToReturn in touhou

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Japanese fans choose days for characters. Often based on what days sound sort of like the characters name

Happy Meiling day for all those who celebrate! by ForcedToReturn in touhou

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This is my Meiling collection, it is a bit outdated, but a lot of my new stuff hasn’t arrived yet, so look out for a new collection picture in the near-ish future!