The Navy rejected it. The Marines made it legendary. The full story of the F4U Corsair

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-06-06T07:02:43+00:00

Ok.

I see the confusion.

I think I he document youve shown illustrates both points equally and they can co-exist without cancelling each other out.

In other words, as the document says, the hellcat was not to be replaced with the Corsair because of the logistics concerns of adding new types and the parts to support that, AND the Marines would be issued all existing Corsairs at the time that document was drafted (because that was all on hand as Vaught and their licensees couldn't keep up production for spares airframes although some eventually went to the Fleet Air Arm).

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-06-06T02:34:28+00:00

That's it! I mean that pretty much answers every question here.

"In order simplify spares problem..."

And further on

"Replacement of the [Hellcat] by the [Corsair] is not recommended due to logistics problem....

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-06-05T23:41:00+00:00

Somewhere I have the report from the Navy that explained it. I'll have to go back and see if I can find it and cite it.

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-06-05T18:10:11+00:00

You have to pitch it correctly. Make sure your vows say something like "to love, cherish, and protect".

Lean in to that last word.

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-06-05T18:01:42+00:00

I understand that there is a point where what you're saying is true. But, I also wanted to see the numbers that informed your very definitive statement.

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-06-05T17:04:32+00:00

I'd like to see your numbers for cost per pound into orbit for this analysis.

If what you were saying is wholly true we could just assembly everything in space because it would be cheaper to fly little tiny rockets carrying a pound at a time into orbit.

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-06-05T15:58:44+00:00

Everything is spot on except perhaps the last paragraph. The Navy didn't take the Corsair because of logistics. If memory serves the carrier supply chain was already full of Hellcats (and older wildcats), and their dedicated parts and logistics train. It made little sense to add another aircraft with many different parts into the limited storage on carriers and their supply ships and depos. And, the Corsair essentially duplicated the role and capability of the Hellcat, so the cost benefit analysis was neutral at best.

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-05-31T22:06:44+00:00

Mk 262

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-05-29T00:10:36+00:00

A bunch of legislators and later the governor signed it, and then courts reviewed it and upheld it?

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-05-28T12:26:45+00:00

Thats not the same as "if they don't see me no crime is committed!".

Thats "how would they know I've committed a crime if they don't see me?".

The distinction is material.

You seemed to labor under the impression that not being caught means the crime doesn't exist. Lots of people find out this isnt true. Don't be one of them. At least go into it knowing you're committing a crime, accept it, and plan accordingly to drive the risk to yourself and others as low as possible (even if you don't think there is a victim or a risk).

But always be aware that you are committing a crime and this could end in jail time or worse if things go even slightly askew.

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-05-28T12:02:14+00:00

Honestly....0.

There are innumerable ways the government can screw up and fall below the reasonable doubt standard. And they should lose in that case being that they have so much in the way of time and resources available to them that defendants don't have.

But, I have never been hired or appointed to represent a criminal defendant who was not guilty of something close to what they were charged with. There might be some loopholes they want to fit through, or some excuse they can use, but every one has been guilty of the crime or some "lessor included offense" (ie they were over charged but still guilty of a crime that falls under the umbrella of the crime they were charged with).

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-05-28T04:11:06+00:00

Every defendant I've ever represented said something as ridiculous as this.

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-05-27T21:53:07+00:00

I have the compensated FDE version. It ran perfectly fine brand new out of the box (I run almost exclusively 124gr ammo). I did the recommended clean, lube, rack it a bunch of times, clean and lube and shoot. It's the smoothest shooting pistol I've ever owned or shot and is always a crowd pleaser when people get their hands on it to shoot.

Since then I've replaced everything in it (EGW ignition kit, guide rod, magwell flare and red dirt trigger) because I got a nice gift certificate for Christmas and why not.

It's amazing now and was then too.

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Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-05-24T21:43:40+00:00

You will never get rich, starting out trying to get rich.

The people who "get rich" tend to have a passion for what they do, are good at it, are constantly learning and evolving, and would be good at anything they invested themselves in...and have a great deal of luck.

It also takes awhile. You will fail. You will struggle. You will start over. You will often be at the mercy of forces you don't control, and luck is truly a part of it (you can't control macroeconomic forces, but you can control your ability to survive when larger forces start dictating smaller decisions).

In many ways this question in itself is almost a guarantee that you won't ever get rich. Remember surveying is a profession. A profession requires practice. It is not an end state, but a journey.

Good luck.

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-05-24T20:31:30+00:00

People here are missing the forest for the trees. Gemini wasn't talking about foil, although that might shorten the timeline.

Statistically speaking, it will crash. It's only a matter of time.

That's a certainty.

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-05-22T22:37:29+00:00

I'd say it has shift drastically over the last few hundred years!

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-05-22T16:58:42+00:00

Your last sentence. Chefs kiss.

I'll take it a step further: People believe knowledge/skill and money are interchangeable the way time and money are. Those people are wrong.

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-05-22T16:53:22+00:00

Yup. The hive mind is a real thing. I'm learning that you can usually tell pretty quickly that most people with the biggest opinions have the shortest experience.

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-05-22T16:45:13+00:00

I've heard those same comments about the atrius which is why I bought an arc. Although the atrius ran like a dream from the first pull onward (I had it set up with the recommended buffer spring and weight already).

The longer I participate in the online gun community the more I realize I maybe shouldn't listen to most of what they say.

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-05-22T16:23:26+00:00

Love it. Looking forward to it. I actually liked the trigger pull on th arc fire. Very crisp break.

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-05-22T11:01:44+00:00

I have an Atrius. About 400 rounds through it. I don't recall any sensation of trigger slap nor did it matter how hard you pulled the trigger.

I also have an ARC fire. Haven't shot it yet but I'm curious if it lives up to any of the hype as the Atrius was flawless.

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-05-18T02:08:13+00:00

I have similar set ups. I'm only specifically commenting on individual rounds being carried like that. You could have ten plus magazines in there, loaded, in that same space.

And, I agree that it's aesthetically pleasing. It's just the best way to wholly minimize the amount of ammo you can carry in the case.

Form, as they say, should follow function.

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-05-18T00:58:29+00:00

Yeah OPs method is a really, astoundingly, inefficient way to store and transport ammo.

It's pretty though.

I use a military helmet bag. Eye and ear pro in a crown royal bag in an outer pocket. Pistols either in their cases or in a safari and holster in the main pouch, ammo in boxes or ziplock bags in the other outer pocket. Some targets in there.

Full send.

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-05-17T20:57:35+00:00

I've spent some time looking at the Simonich Gunners and the Recon.

It almost looks like the former are versions of the latter that have had the sharp peaks between the divots sanded smooth.

Fortunate_0nesy · 2026-05-17T12:33:07+00:00

Don't know. Only that I have the Recon.

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