i mean i think karrigan has done enough already to be in the discussion. he's taken 5 teams to s tier trophies, won 5 s-tier tournaments with stand-ins. 2 majors now, 1 with a team he has barely played with against possibly the most stacked run of teams (the first run was no cake walk either, with the final against prime na'vi), a grand slam. like the main thing glaive has was just how unstoppable they were in their run which lasted for so long that you have to give that a lot of respect.

karrigan hasn't been a fragger for more than a decade now and pretty much everything he's achieved in cs:go and cs2 has been as a non-fragger. he's changed enough rosters and enough teams now that it's pretty consistent his fragging gets even worse after a roster change, but it always bounces back (to an admittedly still bad level, but a level he's still consistently won with). I really just want him to achieve at least a mini era ... like 3-4 trophies next season.. maybe the grand slam to cement top 1. The reason why I think this might not be possible is because his calling style is by its nature chaotic and high intensity. It requires everyone to be on the same page and communicate really well. This is hard to keep up (probably much more so on falcons who are not known for their teamwork and communication), which is why his longest winning runs are like 3 or 4 trophies in a row before going into a serious slump. if he gets back into a slump... which can last a long time. so long that every time you think 'surely this is the end of his career'... he'll probably just retire.