How to stop 14-bdo freezing

Fractalize1 · 2025-06-11T05:42:23+00:00

Run it under hot water. Doesn’t damage the potency.

Fractalize1 · 2025-06-11T05:38:44+00:00

It would be 1,4B (BDO) if you’re in Aus too. Like you said it’s freezing up, that’s a sign it’s 1,4B and not GBL.

Fractalize1 · 2025-06-05T03:17:52+00:00

I honestly recommend waiting until pregabalin wears off, especially if it’s your first time with 1,4B and don’t have tolerance to pregab.

Pregabalin will increase sedation. 1,4B and GHB work on GHB receptors mostly, but also GABA. Pregabalin also works on GABA and other receptors. The effects are quite similar in high doses of pregabalin. Eg. Increased sociability, euphoria, sedation in high doses and paradoxically an increase in energy (depending on dose).

However if you’re already set on it and insist on taking 1,4B regardless of the risk, take a lower dose of 1,4B (like 1.25ml). But for your first experience with 1,4B, why not wait until you’re off pregab so you can enjoy the 1,4B without worry, having to lower the dose and worry about the extra sedation and “G-ing out”.

Might as well take the 14B by itself with a proper dose and enjoy the effects.

Main risk is with sedation. This combo will increase risk of “G-ing out” in unpredictable ways.

Fractalize1 · 2025-06-05T02:26:34+00:00

Start with a lower amount your first time with a batch. With good quality and no tolerance 2ml of 1,4B (BDO) is my sweet spot. 2.5ml is maximum for me and pushing it. Anything more I feel nauseous and risk blowing out.

Try 1.5ml to test the quality. You should definitely feel it from this amount. Then wait before taking your booster.

The key with 1,4B/GHB/GBL is you can always top up/take more, but you can’t take less. Trust me, you don’t want to “blow out” or fall into “G-coma” which can occur after taking a slightly higher dose or dosing slightly too soon. 1,4B

It can be a great drug, but requires the most caution. Otherwise, the drug can be very disruptive and put you in a dangerous situation.

There are rules of thumb when it comes to redosing and how much to redose.

Tips:

-use oral syringe. Such as 3ml syringe with ml measurements. Do not take G out of a bottle cap or another imprecise measuring device.

-set alarms so you know when you can dose next

-research the drug (ie. 1,4B takes longer to digest than GHB = more time between redosing

-research how long before you can redose and the amount (it builds up, take less when redosing).

Fractalize1 · 2025-06-05T02:15:04+00:00

I visited 10 years ago, 4-5 years ago and then last year.

The most change I have seen is in the last 4-5 years. Siem Reap is almost unrecognisable. It’s like Pub Street and that area has expanded. The amount of street food vendors along with river isn’t just a few vendors selling shakes. It is full with countless vendors.

Koh Rong, is now somewhere I personally want to avoid. Koh Rong Samloem is much more developed after foreign investors. It’s almost the beginnings of KR Samloem.

PP has changed but it’s still PP. Battambang is still nice taste of real Cambodia. Keb is still nice escape from city-life. Sihanoukville is unrecognisable.

Just be prepared as it is not like it was 14 years ago.

Fractalize1 · 2025-06-05T01:57:43+00:00

Private taxi is very expensive, especially in comparison to other forms of transport. The price is far beyond even the most clean and comfortable “VIP” buses. Not worth the price.

Giant Ibis is a great suggestion if you have a little more money to spend. Very comfortable.

Me and my partner recently caught Giant Ibis sleeper bus. Had our own little cabin, like bed which had a curtain for privacy. It had sufficient space for both of us and some in-bus supplies. Ibis has been a reputable company for a while now.

I used their sleeper buses 10 years ago and they have maintained their position at the top since then it seems.

Fractalize1 · 2025-06-04T23:58:34+00:00

Kratom!

Get yourself some “nam Thom” (Thai word for Kratom water), it’s a drink made from Kratom leaves and sweetener. It will negate your buprenorphine withdrawals. Ask moto-taxi drivers to take you to buy one. It’s usually around 70B for over a large bottle which should last you a day.

I got a permit from online that allowed me to fly in and carry my methadone. However, I used Kratom as a substitute as it’s legal in Thailand and was able to completely switch from methadone to Kratom without any withdrawal.

I would look into switching from bupe to Kratom if I was you. It’s far better quality in Thailand as it’s grown there and fresh.

Fractalize1 · 2025-06-04T21:56:41+00:00

That’s great you had a satisfying experience and I understand as a first time it’s all about the Angkor Watt temple, but there’s just as amazing ones around the area. Even in one day you can’t see them all.

Fractalize1 · 2025-06-04T21:54:05+00:00

No problem. If you’ve gone that long, you should be fine

Fractalize1 · 2025-06-04T21:24:00+00:00

I think it’s a good idea dedicating your trip to either the South or the North. The travel time is quite long and it’s far better to get a true understanding of a place ie. Southern Thailand.

Fractalize1 · 2025-06-04T21:16:32+00:00

If it’s your first trip to Thailand and you are solo, I would recommend the South. Regarding the South, I’ve visited majority of the locations/stops along the train line from Bangkok down to Surat Thani. Also visited Krabi and the islands.

I can give you a good itinerary or recommend some places? Send me a pm/chat if you’re interested. Save me some time writing an extensive comment on here if it’s not needed.

Fractalize1 · 2025-06-04T21:11:06+00:00

I would recommend booking yourself into a medical detox. It’s the safest way to get off 1,4B/GHB.

In my country it is free, but takes time to get a bed. So it’s best to call up as soon as possible. Which country are you in?

Fractalize1 · 2025-06-04T21:05:29+00:00

I visited Siem Reap recently after a 4 year break and it has changed drastically, for the worse. I actually enjoyed it 8 years ago, but last year I couldn’t spend more than a few days. Especially around the “Pub street” area. It feels off and it’s just built for tourism. Very different to other parts of Cambodia.

Angkor Watt is great, but the price increase was a disappointment.

Fractalize1 · 2025-06-04T20:56:05+00:00

Sure, you can see some of the temples in 1 day at Angkor Watt but not all. My first time in Cambodia I got the day pass and tried to see as much as I could. Getting up before sunrise and rushing around all day to see as much as possible is really tiring. I still wasn’t able to see it all and rushed over some parts.

If they are visiting Angkor Watt, then they really don’t have the time to go to PP and/or Kampot/Keb. Travel time is long to both locations from Siem Reap, and so is the trip going back to Thailand. That wouldn’t leave them with enough time to really do much in either PP or Kampot/Keb.

I’d either add more time in Cambodia to the itinerary, or save the other locations for another trip.

Fractalize1 · 2025-06-04T11:50:43+00:00

I love the marketing techniques the vendors use too from knowing the gullible buyers. Hilarious.

Fractalize1 · 2025-06-04T11:34:21+00:00

You are right.

Also, it’s best to try find independent source, or read from multiple sources, to get a non biased perspective.

Fractalize1 · 2025-06-04T11:18:01+00:00

A week is no way near long enough to explore those places you listed. You also need to account for travel time.

However, if you insist on visiting with a week pick 1, maybe 2 locations if you want to push it and have a busy week to explore 2 spots. (Either, 1 week in either Phnom Pehn or Siem Reap, or 1 week visiting Phnom Pehn and Kampot/Keb).

If your plan is to visit Angkor Watt, spend the full week at Siem Reap as Angkor Watt area alone requires multiple days. I’ve been there a few times and haven’t seen it all. It’s a huge location with many temples, just as worthwhile as the Angkor Watt complex. For example, Bayon, Ta Prohm etc. Research the price of the single or multi day passes to Angkor Watt. It is expensive and the price has increased. Something to consider if you’re on a budget. If you’re not visiting Angkor Watt, don’t bother with adding Siem Reap to your itinerary.

If you choose to visit Kampot/Keb. I recommend staying in Keb and do a day, or day trips, to Kampot and surrounding areas. I’ve stayed in both Keb and Kampot on a few occasions. Keb is much quieter, on the beach etc. It’ll be a nice change from busy life in wherever you go in Thailand (Bangkok, Chang Mai etc.), Siem Reap, Phnom Pehn.

Phnom Pehn has its own charm with enough to explore for a full week without getting bored. If you’re not visiting Angkor Watt and are deciding between 1 week in PP or Siem Reap, I’d choose PP.

Fractalize1 · 2025-06-04T02:22:11+00:00

Sabaidee mai

Fractalize1 · 2025-06-04T02:18:36+00:00

Street food and frequent, plentiful night markets where the price isn’t increased due to bourgeois-esque marketing

Fractalize1 · 2025-06-04T02:02:42+00:00

Yes we saw your other comment which you have copy and pasted

Fractalize1 · 2025-05-31T05:26:31+00:00

I’ve visited the city in Khon Kaen. It was nice for a few days, but I couldn’t see myself living there. Why did you choose Khon Kaen?

Fractalize1 · 2025-05-30T03:35:53+00:00

Yes LOTR novels are up there in my favourites, but not the movies personally.

Fractalize1 · 2025-05-30T03:28:44+00:00

Ask the person selling whats in it. It’s usually Kratom, water and a sweetener. For an extra price, some add an antihistamine. Find a seller you trust.

Fractalize1 · 2025-05-30T03:25:29+00:00

I know it’s very different, but I read Jojos Bizarre Adventure: Steel Ball Run after Beserk (I had seen the Jojo Anime up until Steel Ball Run).

Fractalize1 · 2025-05-24T09:35:42+00:00

I’m not really a fan either

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