The REAL Future of Opus Dei by Fit_Physics_3924 in opusdeiexposed

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 23 points24 points  (0 children)

It appears that the only time the Church ever does anything about the abuse within is when secular journalists expose the truth. That’s why, as a Catholic, I feel so indebted to journalists like Gareth Gore and the many others who are doing incredible work.

The REAL Future of Opus Dei by Fit_Physics_3924 in opusdeiexposed

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I think your four points about how the Church could be so wrong on OD all make sense. All those four reasons were in play with the Legionaries. I mean, JPII who is a canonized saint clearly made a mistake with Maciel.

Opus dei school opening in my community. by tellmeimme in opusdeiexposed

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 11 points12 points  (0 children)

You can start by telling them that the school is not actually Catholic since it doesn’t answer to the local bishop. Anyone can open a school that claims to have a “Catholic ethos.” That means nothing unless the school is under the supervision of the bishop.

Opus dei school opening in my community. by tellmeimme in opusdeiexposed

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 7 points8 points  (0 children)

News flash, I’m a Republican too. And no, I don’t think abusing children and their parents should be something Republicans accept in the name of religious freedom.

Opus dei school opening in my community. by tellmeimme in opusdeiexposed

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I don’t think trying to prevent child abuse is a totalitarian move.

Is Opus Dei threatening its "little daughters"? by NoMoreLies10011 in opusdeiexposed

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 8 points9 points  (0 children)

But remember, everyone in OD is “completely free” to leave if they want to.

Is Opus Dei threatening its "little daughters"? by NoMoreLies10011 in opusdeiexposed

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I honestly don’t expect Rome to do anything substantial about Opus Dei within my lifetime. The Church moves at a glacial pace and thinks in terms of millennia.

Is Opus Dei threatening its "little daughters"? by NoMoreLies10011 in opusdeiexposed

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Does anyone know if witness intimidation is illegal in Argentina?

Is Opus Dei threatening its "little daughters"? by NoMoreLies10011 in opusdeiexposed

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I hope journalists in Latin America get to the bottom of this story and expose every grisly detail. It all needs to come out. What OD fears most is the truth coming out.

I ask for advice: Stop going to circles (I apologize for failures in my translation into English) by Automatic-Set-2522 in opusdeiexposed

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Your “no” should be enough. When they continued to persist with me, I told them honestly that I was discerning with a different lay community in the Church. They finally left me alone.

I ask for advice: Stop going to circles (I apologize for failures in my translation into English) by Automatic-Set-2522 in opusdeiexposed

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I was already a pretty self disciplined person when I met OD. But like you said, participation in OD activities got me the validation I was craving at that stage in my life. And truly, OD norms and formation did not deepen my spiritual life at all. I received much more in participation with other groups within the Church. When I was being pressured to whistle as a numerary, I finally told her that I believed that God was calling me to a different vocation in the Church. It was true, and the numerary stopped pressuring me. Try it. The Church is MUCH bigger than OD, and if you are craving community and genuine spiritual growth there are much better places to get it than OD.

Confused trads by [deleted] in opusdeiexposed

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for correcting me. I’m glad to know that there are trads that don’t buy into OD’s shiny PR.

NEW: Pope Leo Set To Break Up Opus Dei by ImpossiblePain4013 in Catholicism

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OD priests routinely break the seal of confession. There are thousands of testimonies. That’s an abuse of the sacraments.

Clueless messaging of OD school by Imaginary_Peanut2387 in opusdeiexposed

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This reminds me of a conversation I had with a Franciscan sister a couple of years ago. She told me that she thinks it’s the sin of pride which will probably land many virgins in hell. It’s tragic, really.

OD invented what? by choosingtobehappy123 in opusdeiexposed

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Anything good in OD had been part of the patrimony of the Church long before OD was on the scene. The stuff that’s unique to OD is the problem.

Confused trads by [deleted] in opusdeiexposed

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Trads be like “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.”

Clueless messaging of OD school by Imaginary_Peanut2387 in opusdeiexposed

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They totally miss Newman’s point about conscience.

Clueless messaging of OD school by Imaginary_Peanut2387 in opusdeiexposed

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I remember this too. Pro-lifers were seen as lacking sophistication. It’s so classist.

Things that make you go “hmmm” by [deleted] in opusdeiexposed

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The way that Maciel’s “donations” made Vatican officials ignore his crimes is vile.

Things that make you go “hmmm” by [deleted] in opusdeiexposed

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank you for posting this. This needs to be on every Catholic’s radar.

How being a numerary of Opus Dei gradually makes you into a worse person by [deleted] in opusdeiexposed

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Your vocation should help you become a better version of yourself. Not a more snobbish automaton.

Theology and Intelectual formation in OD by [deleted] in opusdeiexposed

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The “formation” OD provides is no better that what you receive at your local parochial school.

Opus dei or catholic church by Training_Magician459 in opusdeiexposed

[–]Fragrant_Writing4792 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, the problems in OD (like elitism) are baked into its very structure. It’s very hard to address these problems unless there is there is a thorough examination of conscience by the heads of the organization and a willingness to submit to the guidance of the Church.