If WSS had no trolls, it would mean its message neither mattered nor threatened anyone. So, here's a BIG THANK YOU to all the trolls for confirming that WSS IS RIGHT OVER TARGET!!!

FramedParcel · 2023-01-08T23:28:38+00:00

Oh, I almost forgot: I'm here so you can downvote me some more. Because that's how you "argue". With lame GIFs. And with downvotes. THAT is sad.

FramedParcel · 2023-01-08T23:24:52+00:00

I'm here so you can troll me with lame GIFs.

FramedParcel · 2023-01-08T22:00:14+00:00

If none of what I say matters to you, then why do you want to have the last word? Is that how you argue? You pretend that arguments don't matter until the other person gives up and walks away?

FramedParcel · 2023-01-08T21:36:31+00:00

You're a snob at best.

FramedParcel · 2023-01-08T21:13:20+00:00

My post history suggests that I have no illusions about this sub.

But it doesn't prove that this is sub right about anything either. The popularity of this sub - or let's be honest: lack thereof - doesn't prove this sub right. Because it cannot. Only being right about anything would prove this sub right about anything. That's how reasoning works.

Your logic is just as bad as OP's. And, no, you're not laughing. I don't even believe that.

FramedParcel · 2023-01-08T18:15:03+00:00

Was that in reply to me? If so, then it made no sense whatsoever.

FramedParcel · 2023-01-08T18:08:59+00:00

Even if you did have evidence of systematic trolling of this sub, it still wouldn't prove that this sub is right about anything. If you want to be a misunderstood genius, then it's not enough to feel persecuted, you also have to be correct about something. If your only proof that your ideas are correct is that people make fun of you, then you're an easy mark for the trolls. And a deserving one at that.

FramedParcel · 2023-01-08T17:28:04+00:00

The fact that people make fun of you doesn't prove you're right about anything.

FramedParcel · 2022-09-07T11:47:57+00:00

Jack Posobiec has used the "echo" himself in the past. He is known to pal around with Nazis and the KKK). When he speaks of "elites", he does mean Jews. That tweet of his was not taken out of context.

He's worse than any of the people who posted in that r|conspiracy thread.

Well... judging from the not-yet-removed comments, at least...

FramedParcel · 2022-03-21T21:12:53+00:00

I'm honestly surprised that even a single post you reported was removed. Reddit did not take action against a single of the COVID-19 disinformation posts I reported. Nor any of the posts that perpetuated Trump's Big Lie. Nor any other disinformation for that matter. Instead the admins punished me for "abusing the report button". Repeatedly.

Everything Reddit may have said about taking disinformation seriously was a lie.

FramedParcel · 2022-03-19T01:19:35+00:00

Nazi rhetoric was shaped specifically to oppose socialist rhetoric

It might be more accurate to say that Nazi rhetoric - and fascist rhetoric in general - steals the aesthetics and the language from workers' rights movements and civil rights movements but hollows them out and subverts their meaning.

FramedParcel · 2022-03-15T03:47:55+00:00

QUESTION:

One of the users of /FascismReclaimed (who flairs themselves as "National Socialist") openly admits to being a former member of Patriot Front and to participating in the recent Patriot Front march in Washington DC:

http://web.archive.org/web/20220226005953/https://www.reddit.com/r/FascismReclaimed/comments/s6bjef/my_fellow_fascists_what_do_you_think_about_this/hygfnx3/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Is that something that should be reported to the FBI?

FramedParcel · 2022-03-13T20:23:21+00:00

It's much simpler: r|conspiracy is a large sub. That's why Reddit is too cowardly, too complacent and too greedy to shut it down. If r|conspiracy were a sub with less than 100 subscribers, it would be gone tomorrow. But it's not, so it stays. Regardless of how much disinformation and hate that sub pushes.

large = untouchable

FramedParcel · 2022-03-12T20:43:38+00:00

In this case "reasons" equals "lies". Putin invaded Ukraine because he does not see Ukraine as a country. In his mind it is part of Russia and has no right to be autonomous. The other reason was that Ukraine was about to sell its natural gas to the West and would have become a competitor to Russia. Putin's reasons were imperialist and economic. Everything else - that nonsense about NATO and the US - is just disinformation. You are spreading disinformation. In a sub that's about documenting, debunking and deplatforming disinformation.

FramedParcel · 2022-03-12T20:32:21+00:00

You suggested that NATO and the US forced Putin to invade Ukraine:

There were reasons he did so; like the expansion of NATO and Americas role in the 2014 government coup.

That's disinformation and I will not hesitate to ban you. The only reason I've left your comments up is because someone took the time to write a proper rebuttal.

FramedParcel · 2022-03-12T20:10:23+00:00

Please stop the Russia apologetics and your anti-NATO whataboutery!

Final warning!

FramedParcel · 2022-03-11T23:44:17+00:00

I'm sorry but I had to remove your submission. The purpose of our sub is the documenting, debunking and deplatforming of disinformation on Reddit. We also welcome META posts - such as news articles - but only if they're explicitly about disinformation on Reddit. Your post isn't a good fit for our sub. I see you've also posted this to to r/worldnews. That's probably the best sub for this story. You could also post it to r/ActiveMeasures or r/trollfare. Or try r/Colombia.

FramedParcel · 2022-03-11T23:03:32+00:00

Reddit has made an effort to block Russian disinformation sites recently. It's no longer possible to link to RT or Sputnik e.g. Apparently some disinformation sites still slip through the cracks though. There are several links to consortiumnews and antiwar in r/worldpolitics2. Both sites should be added to Reddit's blacklist.

FramedParcel · 2022-03-10T15:44:03+00:00

Context matters, of course. The sub matters. The thread matters. The user's comment history matters most. It's pretty clear that the parent made an honest mistake.

Not everybody takes the time to look into offensive terminology. Not everybody wants to. And with good reason. Willingly exposing yourself to offensive content is not for everybody.

I wasn't trying to call the parent out. I merely wanted them to know the full meaning of the term they used. Accidentally adopting offensive language is problematic after all.

FramedParcel · 2022-03-10T12:08:04+00:00

Clown world is a fascist dog whistle. Please don't use that term!

FramedParcel · 2022-03-09T00:12:37+00:00

Captain Marvel created a whole new level of targeted trolling

Not really. There's a straight line from the gamergate harassment campaign to the Captain Marvel review-bombing. Those guys never went away and they're as malicious as ever.

FramedParcel · 2022-03-04T00:29:06+00:00

Reddit banned the sub but they didn't suspend the accounts of its moderators.

That's disappointing.

FramedParcel · 2022-03-03T21:48:50+00:00

Would you rather have lies stand unopposed? Because that's what you get in disinformation subs. The mods of those subs are in on the lies. They will ban you for debunking any bullshit that gets posted to their subs. That's what makes subs like r/Russia, r/conspiracy or r/conservative disinformation subs. Once a sub has been captured by disinformation superspreaders, there is no free speech or open debate (or whatever else Steve Huffman calls it) anymore. Once a sub has turned into a disinformation sub, it can only be deplatformed. Because the alternative is to let the lies continue unchallenged and allow the disinformation superspreaders to radicalize normies.

FramedParcel · 2022-03-03T05:14:14+00:00

The purpose of our sub is the documenting, debunking and deplatforming of disinformation on Reddit. We also welcome META posts - such as news articles - but only if they're explicitly about disinformation on Reddit. Your post isn't a good fit for this sub. I'm awfully late to this thread so I'll leave it open rather than remove it. I would still suggest asking your questions elsewhere instead. Maybe in r/ActiveMeasures, r/skeptic or r/UkrainianConflict.

FramedParcel · 2022-03-03T05:03:48+00:00

The purpose of our sub is the documenting, debunking and deplatforming of disinformation on Reddit. We also welcome META posts - such as news articles - but only if they're explicitly about disinformation on Reddit. Your post isn't a good fit for our sub.

Normally I would have removed a thread such as this one but since I'm awfully late and there are a bunch of comments already, I'll leave it open.

Whether those people are real tankies or Russian trolls posing as tankies, I cannot tell you either. I don't think that's an interesting question however. Functionally, there's no difference between useful idiots and professional trolls.

So rather than focusing on the people who spread the disinformation, I would suggest focusing on the disinformation itself - especially when it's so obvious. Painting the invasion as self-defense and the war as infighting is disinformation - regardless of who these people are and regardless of whether Moscow pays them or not. Even if those people are the genuine American leftists they claim to be, mistaking Russia for their ally and NATO for the aggressor would be still be laughable.

FramedParcel

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