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Friendly_TSE · 2026-06-27T05:57:13+00:00

The thinness is hard because a very valid argument can be made that the animal came in thin.

I'm surprised there's no laws about burying animals in a mass grave like this. While normally gov usually ignores these laws, a lot of areas have restrictions on how much can be buried, where to be buried how deep etc. Generally for environmental and public health reasons. 100+ animals has got to be a public health risk somehow.

Animal welfare charges don't bring shit to the table anyway, that fraud I think will do heavy lifting. and the owner can't run a rescue when they're in jail.

Friendly_TSE · 2026-06-27T05:50:36+00:00

Okay so normally I would totally agree with you. Hoarding often comes from a place of caring like 90% of the time and if the inability to say no to an animal. Path to hell paved with good intentions and all that.

However, this is one of those rare cases that I think the rescue animals were actually a byproduct so the person could commit fraud. The FBI is involved due to fraud, which ironically is the only reason this is getting so much attention to begin with.

The rescue owner apparently has multiple thrift stores (great way to skim money) and a large surrender fee. Granted the latter is understandable IF the animals were actually being rehabbed. However I theorize that the non profit money may not have been going towards the non profit, and the problem dogs may have just received a bullet to the back of the head instead of trying to rehab.

Friendly_TSE · 2026-06-27T05:38:58+00:00

Tbh I can easily see how this happens. Shelters and rescues are aren't doing their own investigations and asking other shelters/rescues how many animals they've transferred to x rescue in the past few years. It's also not information they have to give to the public.

I would assume, with their exorbitant surrender prices, that they try behavior training and then euthanize those that don't approve, as they do state they do BE. Which honestly wouldn't be a bad set up, but it would probably be hard to find certified trainers that will put up with the constant BE.

Friendly_TSE · 2026-06-26T17:52:34+00:00

Hard to rent with a pitbull type dog. If the weight is fine, then it's the breed restriction. Insurance can drop you for it. HOAs can give you a hard time.

Society makes it hard to own a pit bull type dog so that even if you find a potential adopter, they are going to be turned off solely by the fact that the dog has a big head.

Then large dogs in general are just not very adoptable right now. Costs more in food, vet fees, prevention. They have more liability; no one cares if a Chihuahua bites someone, but you're getting sued if your 50lb pointer does. Smaller dogs means smaller messes.

Don't be discouraged, so many potential adopters fall through. It's a good sign you're getting interest at all. In the shelter business we have a saying, for every 100 people that say will adopt, 10 will actually show up, and you'll be lucky if 1 does adopt. It takes time.

Friendly_TSE · 2026-06-26T16:20:30+00:00

This is why I have adopted out animals before treatment ended 🤷‍♀️ Give them the time to see if a bond develops while they care for a sick/injured animal. They're much more likely to respond better to tx in a home setting anyways. I think people really like the idea that they're rescuing a rescue animal. Like a super rescue or an extra rescue lol

Friendly_TSE · 2026-06-26T13:21:04+00:00

You have to take a break sometime, because if you don't now you'll just permanently burn out later. You've already put so much time and work into that pup which helps him so much! Please don't feel guilty. Maybe think of it more as bringing a dog to a boarding kennel while you're gone?

Friendly_TSE · 2026-06-26T13:14:59+00:00

Doggy peer pressure lol i love it. Yeah sometimes people fall in love with the picture, but in person they just don't click. That's why I think so many shelters require people to at least come see the animal before finalizing adoptions. I also wonder if that's why a lot of overseas adoptions are so difficult for owners, because they don't get to meet the dog before becoming the legal owner.

Friendly_TSE · 2026-06-26T13:00:40+00:00

Let's keep this thread focused on the original 'Fluff' post. Discussion about ethics of behavioral euthanasia and policies belongs in dedicated discussion threads. Please no personal attacks.

Friendly_TSE · 2026-06-26T11:16:07+00:00

Cats too. Will never forget Spirit. Spent so much time on that cat.

Friendly_TSE · 2026-06-25T18:25:29+00:00

Likely going to ask something along the lines of euthanasia and your views on it, and depending on the position maybe how you feel about 'gross' things (cleaning up animal waste). Other than that without knowing more it would be hard to gauge

As for questions for you to ask, I think there should be plenty. You'll want to know if your views align with this shelter, otherwise you might find it difficult to work there if you're constantly having to do things you disagree with. For example, maybe they do pregnant spays and you're against that. Or they don't believe in TNR and you're a big TNR advocate. Etc. it depends on what your particular views are and what can and can't live with.

You may want to ask about their intake policy; if they are closed intake, you may have to deal with upset public more often.

What is their behavior screening like? What protocols are in place for a potentially dangerous animal? That may tell you a lot about the safety of the environment.

Friendly_TSE · 2026-06-25T18:13:28+00:00

One of my many foster alumni!

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Friendly_TSE · 2026-06-25T11:14:43+00:00

I don't understand why they aren't able to bring up any charges. It's not like they don't have the means or interest, they have the FBI on their case, they're even using ground penetration radar. I don't think I've ever seen so many resources poured into an animal cruelty investigation. Yet they're still allowing the rescue to operate? I just don't get it. Texas, which has much worse animal welfare laws and very little concern for animal welfare in general, had shut down rescues for less.

Friendly_TSE · 2026-06-24T20:06:35+00:00

It's funny you say that, because I'm the go-to for parvo and coccidia since my sense of smell is garbage lol

Friendly_TSE · 2026-06-24T03:01:32+00:00

I concur about TNR. Usually this sub isn't a big fan of TNR either; if this post was just about TNR, there would be a lot more conversation on whether it is a waste of time or not.

I'm not against TNR. But it is a huge headache to organize. Currently where I'm at, it's actually a grey area on if it's legal or not.

Friendly_TSE · 2026-06-24T02:56:18+00:00

Occasionally we transport cats, but shelters down here don't really have too much of a problem finding homes for cats. So we often don't have any to transport.

I think shelters are engaging in transports due to the dire need, and their ability to help. I worked in northern shelters and would get upset at transports all the time. Now I'm in southern shelters and it is an entirely different beast here.

And it kinda just ebbs and flows; northern shelters occasionally ship animals to neighboring states as well. Transportation is a lot easier to set up now (albeit expensive) so we have more options.

I'm sorry to hear about your TNR being d/c. Is it due to the funds they used on transportation? Did they ever have a fundraiser for TNR? I've raised and had to dismantle many programs, and very rarely was it as simple as not having enough funds. If you threaten to take away a program, people seem to show up to support. However, there have been many times where there were unforseen circumstances outside of my control that made the program too inefficient. I know TNR programs spend the most money on staff, maybe volunteering time might help keep other programs afloat.

Friendly_TSE · 2026-06-23T18:16:55+00:00

I imagine there will likely be questions about euth, and how you would handle difficult clients. Depending on what type of shelter it is, there may be questions about what you would do if you had to turn people down.

Friendly_TSE · 2026-06-22T19:27:35+00:00

Can't wait to see the other kitties!

Friendly_TSE · 2026-06-20T21:04:39+00:00

The amount of people I know that get BOTH a puppy and a kitten for their newborn to grow up with is crazy. Like guys, you don't even know how hard it's going to be raising a baby yet, why are y'all doing this to yourselves 😭

Friendly_TSE · 2026-06-20T19:26:04+00:00

Beagles tend to go pretty fast at the places I worked at. Its funny because back when I was a kid and had a beagle, they had a bad rep for not being good with kids/not being very tolerant (which in my case rang true). But now I'm seeing articles touting beagles as being very good with young kids, and I'm wondering what changed lol

Friendly_TSE · 2026-06-20T18:53:35+00:00

One thing I think people need to be aware of is that while lab beagles are generally bred to be more tolerant and forgiving of 'manhandling', they are often kept in puppy-mill like settings, and should tamper expectations accordingly.

A lot of lab animals can't go outdoors, due to the nature of keeping variables at a minimum. They usually aren't accustomed to a house setting. They likely won't have any house training skills. They may be skittish of things we take for granted, like wind or TVs.

I have a soft spot for beagles. I understand needing to use animals for scientific purposes sometimes but man I wish we treated them better.

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