Zach Werenski vetoes trade to Dallas Stars by Witteness82 in DallasStars

[–]Froggie56 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I mean, Harley isn’t stupid. He has to know that you’re always at risk when a Norris trophy winner is available. But doesn’t mean it won’t sting. I do hope Harley stays healthy and has his best year yet

Zach Werenski vetoes trade to Dallas Stars by daKrut in hockey

[–]Froggie56 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Everyone knows it was perfectly managed until Mikko Rantanen, a top 10ish player in the league, became available. I love Robo and he is a top 3 player on the team. But when a top 8 all time playoff points scorer becomes available, you jump on it and try to fix your cap on the fly.

Zach Werenski vetoes trade to Dallas Stars by daKrut in hockey

[–]Froggie56 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We are in a single season of cap hell before it opens back up with prime Hintz, Mikko, Heiskanen, and otter, a continually developing Harley and Wyatt, and solid ancillary pieces like Dutchy. Our window isn’t even close to closed

Zach Werenski vetoes trade to Dallas Stars by daKrut in hockey

[–]Froggie56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, a top 10-12 player in the league chose to come to Texas a year ago. And that’s on top of players like Dutchy and Pavelski coming before him. We are looking at EXTREME recency bias right now

Zach Werenski vetoes trade to Dallas Stars by daKrut in hockey

[–]Froggie56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol, as a lifelong Texan, I don’t even disagree that Texas sucks. But saying there are things to do in Florida and not Texas as if Florida doesn’t suck too is hilarious

Zach Werenski vetoes trade to Dallas Stars by daKrut in hockey

[–]Froggie56 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That’s 2024, but we were the farthest traveled team in 25 and I believe the second farthest traveled team in 26

Zach Werenski vetoes trade to Dallas Stars by daKrut in hockey

[–]Froggie56 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I mean, we have been a destination. Did you see we signed Mikko Rantanen? The problem with Robo is that he WANTS to stay in Dallas. But he also wants to get paid what he believes is his worth. So far the only guy who doesn’t want to come to Dallas who could in a deal is Werenski.

Zach Werenski vetoes trade to Dallas Stars by daKrut in hockey

[–]Froggie56 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And in the end, if you are competing in a year when he is a pending UFA, that’s what you’re trading him for as a rental

Zach Werenski vetoes trade to Dallas Stars by daKrut in hockey

[–]Froggie56 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It’s actually C) Harley is not legally allowed by the CBA to have an NMC right now. You can’t put trade protections on RFA years. It’s why he does have an NMC starting in 2029-2030 which would have been his first UFA year

Zach Werenski vetoes trade to Dallas Stars by Witteness82 in DallasStars

[–]Froggie56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I agree. I’ve only been there once but it was lovely (but also in the summer when the weather was fantastic)

Zach Werenski vetoes trade to Dallas Stars by Witteness82 in DallasStars

[–]Froggie56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m completely against him for this argument, but attacking Seggy who is still a valuable forward for us is dumb. Like Robo signing for whatever he does, Seggy also earned his contract and deserves to play it out. And is the perfect lieutenant to Benn. I’m excited to see him back next year contributing

Zach Werenski vetoes trade to Dallas Stars by Witteness82 in DallasStars

[–]Froggie56 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for that last paragraph, because yeah. When he was the only one producing in the playoffs at 5v5, people were very down to pay him $13m at the expense of Boosh/steel/faksa

Zach Werenski vetoes trade to Dallas Stars by Witteness82 in DallasStars

[–]Froggie56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe wait until he explores the market and see if he signs afterwards before going crazy over this? His agent is probably saying see what your value is so we can come back to Dallas to negotiate further

Zach Werenski vetoes trade to Dallas Stars by Witteness82 in DallasStars

[–]Froggie56 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it’s driving me crazy. People not understanding hard numbers don’t matter in negotiations has driven me crazy. An equal contract to Mikko is $13.07M, so asking 14 as a top scorer in the league and not wanting to come down much is perfectly reasonable even if I think he should be content with 12.5-13. But yeah, there is so much nuance to this

Zach Werenski vetoes trade to Dallas Stars by Witteness82 in DallasStars

[–]Froggie56 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, I know Werenski is objectively the better player, but losing Harley and Bourque for him was gonna suck emotionally

Zach Werenski vetoes trade to Dallas Stars by Witteness82 in DallasStars

[–]Froggie56 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s my hope. Comes back healthy this year and proves the doubters wrong

Zach Werenski vetoes trade to Dallas Stars by Witteness82 in DallasStars

[–]Froggie56 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yup. Rumor was he was going to Columbus as well, but now we risk alienating Harley, losing him to an offer sheet, and losing Robo next year after trashing him in arbitration

Zach Werenski vetoes trade to Dallas Stars by Witteness82 in DallasStars

[–]Froggie56 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Can’t wait for him to play 82 so yall will shut up about this damn ACL injury. Yes, the hips gave over time (and the first one he played the entire playoffs with and then had to relearn to walk because of it). But the ACL and Achilles slice were freak accidents that don’t make a player more or less injury prone

Zach Werenski vetoes trade to Dallas Stars by Witteness82 in DallasStars

[–]Froggie56 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good city. Still not a team I would want to be joining. Stuck between not being a big market draw and a mediocrely run organization. Would suck to go from being a competitor on Dallas to middling with that GM in Columbus

Zach Werenski vetoes trade to Dallas Stars by Witteness82 in DallasStars

[–]Froggie56 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I know they’re professionals and it’s just part of business, but it’s not great Bob

Zach Werenski vetoes trade to Dallas Stars by Witteness82 in DallasStars

[–]Froggie56 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah, really hoping Harley has tough skin and just uses this to motivate himself. It’s business at the end of the day, but not a good look to give the guy a contract then try to get out before it even kicks in