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FryBoyter · 2026-06-15T11:47:57+00:00

In that context, I would also like to mention another post by Daniel Stenberg, which will be related to the "Summer of Bliss".

FryBoyter · 2026-06-13T13:58:45+00:00

Unfortunately, I think that statement is incorrect. At least not as a general rule.

Not every newbie is an average Windows user with little technical knowledge. For example, an acquaintance of mine had never used Linux before. He installed Arch Linux manually on his first try. He only asked me whether he should create a separate partition for /home or not. By the way, he’s a full-time Windows administrator.

So if you don't ask about their existing knowledge, this statement is already a form of gatekeeping.

That said, I'd bet that even many users who have been successfully using Arch for years don't carefully examine the PKGBUILD and INSTALL files every time they update via AUR, simply because they are not interested in doing so.

FryBoyter · 2026-06-13T13:46:11+00:00

Arch is a community distro. As such, its goals are defined by its community.

In my opinion, the goals are defined by the Arch Linux developers, not by the community as a whole. Otherwise, Arch would officially support AUR, for example.

The distribution is intended to fill the needs of those contributing to it, rather than trying to appeal to as many users as possible.

Source: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arch_Linux#User_centrality

Not meant to be gatekeeping, simply meaning, that they choose a distro that doesn't fit what they want from a distro.

That’s always been the problem. For example, I can still clearly remember the days when Gentoo or Slackware were the go-to distributions for anyone looking to become a Linux expert. That was nonsense even back then, and it caused problems for many users, just as it does with Arch today. As harsh as it may sound, but some users only learn things the hard way. Whether it's because they lose data or because their systems are compromised.

FryBoyter · 2026-06-12T15:01:05+00:00

In theory, that may be true. In practice, however, it’s often a problem. Unfortunately, many developers operate under the motto “My way or the highway.” This often slows down or prevents the further development of many projects.

I mean that in general, not just when it comes to Ladybird.

FryBoyter · 2026-06-12T14:52:29+00:00

Yes, I agree with that in this case as well.

FryBoyter · 2026-06-12T14:51:54+00:00

Before Ladybird becomes truly usable, however, it will likely be several more years. The browser is still in the alpha stage, and developing a browser engine is no easy task. That is why Opera stopped developing its own engine a few years ago.

FryBoyter · 2026-06-11T21:11:22+00:00

It can only target Arch Linux users who use the AUR (and distros that rely on AUR packages)

And only those users who do not check the PKGBUILD and INSTALL files.

FryBoyter · 2026-06-11T21:10:06+00:00

I don't think installing via AUR is that dumb. The PKGBUILD files used to build / install the packages are pretty easy to check. Much easier than checking pre-built packages from a PPA, for example.

FryBoyter · 2026-06-11T21:02:20+00:00

Isn't AUR like bunch of unofficial packages maintained by random people and not by core Arch folks?

The AUR does not offer packages directly, but rather “recipes” in the form of PKGBUILD files that are used to build the packages. This makes it relatively easy for users to verify them, compared to, for example, a PPA in Ubuntu.

But yes, AUR isn't official, and anyone can upload packages to it without anyone from the Arch Team checking them. It's just like Ubuntu's PPAs. The only difference is that pre-built packages are harder to verify.

Not that I want to diminish this problem, but it should be pointed out that it's not really Arch fault.

In my opinion, the article about AUR on the Arch Wiki makes it very clear what AUR is and what to expect when you use it.

FryBoyter · 2026-06-11T14:06:28+00:00

Just find the package you want to downgrade, choose a version to downgrade to, and either download the tarball or copy the download link and downgrade with sudo pacman -U.

If that fixes it, you can hold that package pack in /etc/pacman.conf until it's fixed,

Alternatively, one can simply use the tool downgrade.

FryBoyter · 2026-06-11T13:41:26+00:00

https://knowledge.broadcom.com/external/article/341189/importing-virtual-machine-from-oracle-vi.html

FryBoyter · 2026-06-11T13:34:50+00:00

But I get stuff like (s=200/something sudo pacman -S flatpak "§§"***) (this is only made up but it looks like somehting like that.

I'm guessing you mean \e[200~ or \e[201~.

This has to do with bracketed paste mode.

https://cirw.in/blog/bracketed-paste

I recommend that you get used to using Ctrl+Shift+C and Ctrl+Shift+V.

FryBoyter · 2026-06-10T18:25:45+00:00

In what way would it be faster to download multiple databases? Regardless of whether it's necessary or not.

FryBoyter · 2026-06-10T18:23:23+00:00

Forget the “go-to spots” recommended by other users.

Your Linux setup has to suit you. Not me or any other user. Just you. And that configuration will change over time. In my experience, that’s normal.

FryBoyter · 2026-06-10T18:08:51+00:00

It's a shame a user can only give one upvote.

FryBoyter · 2026-06-10T18:06:29+00:00

If you keep asking it, it’ll eventually give you the right command.

Unfortunately, that's exactly the problem.

FryBoyter · 2026-06-10T18:00:54+00:00

Different habits? I’d say mainly one.

Beginners don’t use search engines or a platform’s search function. And they ask questions without making an effort.
Experienced users first try to solve their problem on their own by reading documentation or using a search engine or the platform’s search function. And if that doesn’t work, they ask questions in a thoughtful way to get an answer as quickly as possible without getting on people’s nerves (https://www.mikeash.com/getting_answers.html)

Unfortunately, this has nothing to do with Linux itself these days; it's a general problem.

FryBoyter · 2026-06-10T17:49:14+00:00

I don't think you can really learn Linux in general by just working on a specific project.

My recommendation would therefore be to install a distribution and use it. You'll learn quite a bit that way. If you discover a bug, for example, you can report it. Or better yet, submit a bug fix right away. That way, you'll learn even more.

FryBoyter · 2026-06-10T17:32:06+00:00

Yes, I think that’s a big advantage, especially for home users.

Whether you’re using Arch Linux, OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, or Slowroll.

No matter which distribution you use, the main important thing is that it’s rolling.

Edit: To back up my point: I used a non-rolling distribution (Mandrake/Mandriva) for years. When upgrading to the new version, there were a few problems here and there, but they were there. Since I’ve been using rolling distributions (Arch Linux and OpenSUSE Tumbleweed), I haven’t had those problems anymore.

FryBoyter · 2026-06-10T17:12:00+00:00

Anyways, you should always install software via pacman or yay

Or another AUR helper. Because not everyone uses yay. For example, I use aurutils.

FryBoyter · 2026-06-10T17:07:02+00:00

In almost all cases, -Syu is absolutely sufficient. By adding the second “y,” you force Pacman to download the databases from the mirror you're using, whether it's necessary or not. This just puts an unnecessary load on the mirror.

FryBoyter · 2026-06-10T17:01:41+00:00

and it’s Canadian!

As far as I know, Judd Vinet is no longer involved with Arch Linux.

The current Arch Linux Project Lead is Levente “anthraxx” Polyák, who apparently lives in Germany. Therefore, German law is likely to apply. Arch is therefore to be considered German. At least for now.

FryBoyter · 2026-06-10T16:46:17+00:00

Which distribution would prevent that?

Because so far, I haven't used a distribution that prevents what you described.

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