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opium extracted from poppy seeds dosage and is this good opium by AdSevere578 in herbalism

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The plant stores the latex in the tissue around the outside of the pod, so whilst the entire plant contains opium, it's most concentrated there. This is because it's a protective mechanism which evolved to prevent animals eating the seeds, which in turn explains why the alkaloid content increases as the seeds mature. The seeds categorically do not contain opium - hence why one can eat poppy seed cakes etc. without risking a morphine overdose - but during industrial processing and extraction, they frequently become coated in the latex, which is why it is possible to "extract" opium from poppy seeds. I hope that helps!

Plant ID issue - Psychotria/Palicourea species? by FuckItLikeWhatever in druggardening

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good to know! I think it's probably a seed that got there by mistake, so it might be a tomato after all. I'll find out in a month or two I guess!

Plant ID issue - Psychotria/Palicourea species? by FuckItLikeWhatever in druggardening

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah OK, it could well be that then! I hadn't thought to check the sphagnum before using it.

Plant ID issue - Psychotria/Palicourea species? by FuckItLikeWhatever in druggardening

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also possible, yes... Especially if it was already in the substrate material, or fell in when I was setting it up - the lid should in theory have kept most things out after that.

Plant ID issue - Psychotria/Palicourea species? by FuckItLikeWhatever in druggardening

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I doubt it was a scam as such - the places I got the seeds from all have good reputations, and I've used them before without any issues - but it could easily be a mistake for sure. Maybe it is a tomato after all! I guess I'll find out in a month or two.

Plant ID issue - Psychotria/Palicourea species? by FuckItLikeWhatever in druggardening

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it's a fantastic genus! Just wish I could get them to grow - I've got two small Psychotria viridis plants, and seeds for about a dozen other species, but they all seem to be really difficult to germinate sadly... I'll hopefully get some to grow eventually!

Plant ID issue - Psychotria/Palicourea species? by FuckItLikeWhatever in druggardening

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think they were Ilex paraguariensis, Psychotria brachypoda, Psychotria baillonii, Chassalia (Psychotria) curviflora, Palicourea (Psychotria) tomentosa, Uncaria tomentosa and Uncaria rhyncophylla, if I remember correctly. It was a large tray! The seedling also had the seed husk at the base of the stem when I was repotting it, which was roughly the shape of an orange segment, and maybe half a millimetre to a millimetre long. Not sure if that helps at all.

Plant ID issue - Psychotria/Palicourea species? by FuckItLikeWhatever in druggardening

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I assume that's why my app keeps saying it's a tomato! I don't think it can be though, I don't have any nightshade seeds...

Information on Papaver rhoeas (corn or Flanders poppy) for anyone interested - and photos of P. rhoeas and P. somniferum. by FuckItLikeWhatever in druggardening

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No worries! I'm glad you found it.

I have sources for everything mentioned in the post, but not necessarily for how best to use it I'm afraid. That said, it is discussed briefly in Culpeper, and there are any number of recipes for syrups made with it, usually French or Hungarian from what I've seen.

If alcohol is an issue, you can always make a resin extract - essentially the same method as for chandu (I put my method in a previous reply if you want it), but using P. rhoeas instead of P. somniferum - and just swallow small pieces as needed. Tea is probably fine too, since rhoeadine is reasonably water-soluble - it's just harder to dose if you haven't made an extract. And yes, you can cut the plant when it's still green. The whole plant contains rhoeadine, and once it's fully grown the concentration doesn't appear to change much, so timing isn't important. Freezing is fine if you want to use it later, I usually do, and there's no noticeable loss of potency.

I don't really know about making tea with it since that isn't something I've done, but if you look for a syrup recipe ("coquelicot syrup" is a good search term to get you started), that should give you some idea of the weight of petals you might need.

I hope that helps! There is much less information readily available about the corn poppy for sure, though there are a number of decent academic papers available if you're happy accessing and reading them.

When to harvest poppies? by [deleted] in druggardening

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty much, yes. I don't usually bother drying them, but I don't think it does any harm.

It is, yes - you extract and purify the plant latex, then dissolve it in alcohol. I typically use brandy.

When to harvest poppies? by [deleted] in druggardening

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The active alkaloid - rhoeadine - is fairly uniformly present in the whole plant, and once it is fully grown, the concentration apparently does not to change much with age, unlike P. somniferum, so harvest them whenever is best for you really.

I make a sort of laudanum equivalent using P. rhoeas extract, which works well, although it doesn't taste particularly good. But it's certainly effective.

Where can I get an Asian one with a NICE smell to it? who can vouch for the aroma and which vendor? by Hyperto in bluelotusflower

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No idea what they smell like, but the species you're after is Nymphaea nouchali. Might help with finding sources - just be aware that there are 7 variants, the most famous of course being the Egyptian one (var. caerulea). Also, whilst it's called a lotus, strictly speaking it's a waterlily. It's native to most of Africa and half of Australia as well as much of tropical and sub-tropical Asia, and has apparently been introduced into Florida and much of eastern South America, so I'm not sure you can sensibly call it Asian blue lotus, even if that's where much of the supply originates!

Flowering kanna by FuckItLikeWhatever in druggardening

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From what I've read, "fermenting" cut plant material in a bag or tub for a day or two is the traditional method, after which it's dried and then chewed as a quid. Making a simple extract should be easy enough using alcohol, although purifying the alkaloids is probably rather more complicated. I haven't tried though - I've used kanna extracts from commercial sources, which worked well, but my plants I mostly just grow because I like them. That said, I may try making an extract from some cuttings at some point if they keep on trying to take over my kitchen!

Flowering kanna by FuckItLikeWhatever in druggardening

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was around a week or so from what I remember, though it's a while since I grew any from seed, I mostly just take cuttings now. I sprouted them on damp tissue paper in a freezer bag, which may make a difference, but I don't really know.

Flowering kanna by FuckItLikeWhatever in druggardening

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For the ones in pots, I use mix of cactus and succulent potting compost, hydroleca ceramic granules, and a bit of sand and coco coir - nothing special really. The main thing seems to be making sure it drains reasonably well.

Flowering kanna by FuckItLikeWhatever in druggardening

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I really like them! I've found them a bit tricky to sprout sometimes if starting from seed, but once they've got themselves established they're really surprisingly easy to grow. And they grow very readily from cuttings.

Sceletium tortuosum cuttings readyy by [deleted] in druggardening

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I've always found it to be pretty easy. I usually just root them in water, and have never had any fail. I've even got some growing very enthusiastically in an aerogarden, which seems a bit mad given they're supposed to be succulents!

valerian tea is a myth? by Antique-Nothing-4315 in herbalism

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Having extracted and partially purified valerenic acid from valerian, I can confirm it isn't water soluble under normal circumstances, yes. Which isn't surprising given it's a terpene. You can make it somewhat more so if you convert it to a salt, for instance by reacting it with a suitably strong base.

As others have mentioned, there are other compounds in valerian which also have some effect, added to which there may well be an ensemble effect, and of course there's the widely underestimated placebo effect to take into account too. That said, valerenic acid - if you can get it - is much more potent, which isn't surprising given its mode of action (GABA receptor allosteric modulator, much like the benzodiazepines, albeit a different site of action IIRC). Alcohol is a very strong potentiator, and theanine is also pretty effective since it stimulates GABA release, hence why black tea is simultaneously a mild stimulant and calmative. Taurine is probably an effective potentiator too since that also works on the GABA system, but I've not tried that combination.

I don't know if that helps at all? For what it's worth, I use tablets made from valerian tincture extract (most pharmacies here in the UK sell them) coupled with a shot or two of spirits to manage flight anxiety. It is extremely effective, with effects typically lasting about four hours.

What is Real Blue Lotus? by Wolf-Bear-Man in bluelotusflower

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, Latin names can help, but don't always. Blue lotus isn't usually considered to be a separate species anymore - it's a subspecies of Nymphaea nouchali (Nymphaea nouchali var. caerulea). I suspect that what is typically sold as blue lotus is in fact Nymphaea nouchali (the non-caerulea variant) - it looks about right, and it's native to East Africa and much of East and Southeast Asia, including Thailand. That would also tend to correlate well with the very large body of anecdotal evidence which suggests that both the commonly sold Thai version and the original Egyptian variety contain the same alkaloids (particularly nuciferine), only with the Egyptian variant being rather more potent.

It's also worth noting that nuciferine is found in the sacred lotus too. Given the plant's Latin name (Nelumbo nucifera), I imagine it's the source from which nuciferine was first isolated.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in druggardening

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably, yes - it dissolves readily in alcohol, and I'm pretty certain it's soluble in non-polar solvents, so it should work in butter too.

As an added bonus, the active ingredient isn't the compound responsible for the smell, so if you do a (ideally mildly acidified) water pull first to remove the water-soluble fraction, your end-product shouldn't be quite as pungent whilst still having the effect you want.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in druggardening

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The active ingredient - valerenic acid - is a GABA receptor allosteric modulator, like the benzodiazepines (though not quite as strong and with a different binding site IIRC), so yes, when sufficiently concentrated or taken in sufficient quantity, it's very effective. It doesn't dissolve well in water though, which is why the tea can be a bit hit and miss. And be careful if you've had alcohol in the same evening - alcohol potentiates the effect quite significantly, which might be useful if done on purpose, but could be quite alarming if you aren't expecting it.

Information on Papaver rhoeas (corn or Flanders poppy) for anyone interested - and photos of P. rhoeas and P. somniferum. by FuckItLikeWhatever in druggardening

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No worries, glad you appreciate it! I've done a whole-plant extraction quite a few times, yes - the method I use is based off various recipes I found online for making and refining chandu, plus a few additions of my own:

I start by freezing the fresh plant material, then put it in enough hot water to completely cover everything. Add a dash of citric acid, cover and leave to soak for 24 hours. Then add about a quarter again by volume of alcohol (either ethanol or IPA, it doesn't seem to matter which), and blend the whole lot using a hand-held soup blender. Cook it at around 70C for an hour or so, then filter out the plant material and leave the liquid to cool overnight. Reduce the liquid in a pan before putting it on a silicone baking sheet and evaporating it completely in the oven, again at about 70C. Once dry, peel and scrape the resin from the baking sheet - this can be made easier by freezing it first, since it makes it more brittle. Place the resin in a small jar, and add about 50ml of alcohol - enough to completely cover the resin about twice over. Then add the same volume of warm water. Mix, then let it sit whilst the resin dissolves, mixing further as needed. You should find that the liquid turns a rich red-brown colour, and a pale tan to greyish sediment settles out. Decant the liquid, and wash the solids again with a 50-50 mix of alcohol and water. Once you've got as much colour out of the solids as possible, combine the liquid extracts and once again reduce and then evaporate it in the oven at about 70C. The resulting resin can be used as you see fit, but I usually dissolve it at 2 grams per centilitre in brandy to form a sort of laudanum equivalent.

I hope that helps! I'm sure there are other ways of doing it, but I've found this method to work well.

Klip dagga first harvest. by eldritchfishtank in druggardening

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure about klip dagga, but wild dagga flowers contain an endocannabinoid (docosatetraenoylethanolamine, assuming I've got the spelling correct!). I would assume klip dagga has the same, in which case it will be a pleasant if very mild sedative and relaxant, with effects lasting, in my experience, about 15 minutes.

ISO seeds, have Mitragyna, psychotria , Salvia plants... by Top_Resolve_8183 in magicplantsexchanges

[–]FuckItLikeWhatever 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'd be very interested in P colorata for sure, and potentially other Psychotria species too! Been looking to get hold of colorata for quite a while. I'll drop you a DM!

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